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"The anatomy of a school shooting" rapper shout outs colombine shooters WTF

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Vega-don, Apr 13, 2004.

  1. Cold Killer

    Cold Killer I will Kill Bill

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    So anyways, what's up with that guy's left eye? He have a cataract, or is that just the camera's work?
     
  2. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge New Member

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    well can one of the brothas or some "enlightened" wigger please post translated lyrics for us white folk? :p
     
  3. Keganator

    Keganator White as Snow Moderator

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    Zundy, I'd be happy too. Here are substitute lyrics for every rap song ever made.

    ;)

    Every time someone has reccomeneded me a rapper, or let me listen to a few of their songs, I smile and nod, and go along with it. I listen, trying to be objective. Seriously...rap is the new rock, with more and more artists every day (shudders), so I figure, maybe someone will come up with something good. Nontheless, I come to the same conclusions every time. Pure and utter garbage ;)




    Either that, or I've entered my "BACK IN MY DAY WE LISTENED TO REAL MUSIC" phase, like all old people do :con: *goes back to his Blind Guardian*
     
  4. spm1138

    spm1138 Irony Is

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    Roots Manuva / Brand New Second Hand?

    Common / Like Water For Chocolate?

    EL-P / Fantastic Damage?
     
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  5. das_ben

    das_ben Concerned.

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    The Roots, Why, The Streets [although what I've heard of the new album doesn't sound nearly as good as the first album].
     
  6. Vega-don

    Vega-don arreté pour detention de tomate prohibée

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    theires definitively good and bad things in all genres
    i am myself a fan of rap music , and rock (mostly heavy) at the same time

    the rapper eye is a israeli flag but he only "weares" it in this video"
     
  7. janno

    janno Reanimator

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    KRS ONE
    Hiphop Knowledge

    You know.. life is funny..
    If you don't repeat the actions of your own success
    you won't be successful
    You gotta know your own formula, your own ingredients
    What made you, YOU..

    1987 I was at the Latin Quarters
    Listenin to Afrika Bambaata give the order
    The call of the order was to avoid the slaughter
    He said, "Record companies ain't got nuttin for ya!"
    Without a lawyer, he taught The Infinity Lessons
    In how hip-hop could be a, many a blessing
    And that was great, so in 1988
    there was no debate, we had to end the hate
    The name of the game was "Stop the Violence"
    and unity, knowledge, and self-reliance
    We - started talkin bout Martin and Malcolm
    Had these ghetto kids goin, "Huh, what about him?"
    1989, Professor Griff speaks his mind
    but his freedom of speech is declined
    1990 came with the West coast
    East coast, West coast, who is the best coast?
    Lookin back now, of COURSE it was bogus
    The whole argument was where we lost focus
    We got hopeless; not with the lyrics and music
    but with hip-hop, and how we used it
    Or abused it, you know how the crew get
    "You like it cause you choose it"
    1991, we opened our eyes
    with Human Education Against Lies, we tried
    to talk about the state of humanity
    But all these others rappers got mad at me
    They called me "Captain Human", another message was sent
    "Self Destruction don't pay the {****in} rent"
    Remember that? Nobody wanted conscious rap
    It was like - where these ballers at?
    Where can they call us at? All was wack
    Hip-Hop culture was fallin flat and that was that
    So in 1992, I found my crew
    They said, "Yo Kris, what you wanna do?"
    I said, "Damn - why they wanna get with me?
    If I bust they {****} I'm contradictory.
    If I play the bitch role, they take my shoe.
    Tell me what the {****} am I supposed to do?"
    So I did it, don't stop get it get it get it
    All of a sudden these critics they wanna spit it
    "Kay Are Ess One is con-tra-dic-to-ry"
    Just cause I wouldn't let these rappers get with me
    {****} that, {****} you and {****} your pen
    If a rapper wanna diss, yo I'd do it again
    But I'm makin these ends, and I got my friends
    And I really don't wanna have to sit in the pen
    So I go back to the philosopher
    1993 hip-hop is uhh.. wack
    Go back, check the facts
    1994, "Return of the Boom Bap"
    It wasn't all about the loot
    It was all about Harry Allen Rhythm Cultural Institute
    Blowin up, 1995
    Conscious rap is still alive
    But nobody wanna play it, nobody wanna say it
    Nobody okayed it, they'd all rather hate it
    1996 it really don't stop
    We put together somethin called the Temple of Hip-Hop
    Not just DJin, breakin, graf and lyrics
    But how hip-hop affects the spirit
    "Step Into a World," that's what I did
    1997 I was raisin my kid
    or kids, but I, had to go
    Cause New York DJ's changed the flows
    to clothes and hoes, but that wasn't me
    I'll be damned if I dance for the MTV
    So in 1998 I began to debate
    Should I go now, or should I really wait?
    '99, I moved to L.A. you see
    and took a gig with the WB
    Started studyin philosophy full-time
    To have a full heart, full body, full mind
    But you know what the problem is or was?
    DJ's don't raise our kids, cuz
    they so caught up in the cash and jewels
    How they gonna really see a hip-hop school?
    How they gonna really see a hip-hop temple?
    They don't even wanna play my instrumentals, but
    big up Dr. Dre, Snoop, Xzibit
    Especially Xzibit, he was there in a minute
    Mic Conception, all of them, said
    "Yo you need help? I should call them"
    When I was in L.A., I held the crown
    Bloods, Crips, they held me down
    I could never forget Mad Lion, killer pride
    with the gat in the lap in the low-ride
    Oh I can't forget, Icy Ice, Lucky Lou
    Julio G, that was the crew
    Davey D, Ingrid, David Connor
    The list goes on and on, let me tell ya
    FredWreck, and my man Protest
    Much respect, no less
    To my spiritual and mental defenders
    Big up to L.A., temple members
    But in 2000, I seen how I wanted to live
    I wasn't no executive
    So I picked up the mic and I quit my job
    Said to Simone I gotta get with God
    She said, "Don't worry bout these dollars and quarters.
    Record companies ain't got nuttin for ya."
    Damn, she took me back to Bam!
    Took me back to who I am!
    Brought me back to the New York land!
    Now I overstand!..

    {interviewer}
    Now KRS-One, now you've been quoted as saying that
    rap is something we do, hip-hop is something you live.
    {KRS} Yes!
    {interviewer}
    Explain that to us please.
    {KRS-One}
    Well, well, today hip-hop, we are advocating that hip-hop is not,
    just a music, it is an attitude, it is an awareness, it is a way
    to view the world. So rap music, is something we do, but HIP-HOP,
    is something we live. And we look at hip-hop, in it's 9 elements;
    which is breaking, emceeing, graffiti art, deejaying, beatboxing,
    street fashion, street language, street knowledge, and street
    entrepenurialism - trade and business. And uhh, that's where y'know
    that's the hip-hop that that that we're about. We come from the uhh
    the root of, of Kool DJ Herc, who originated hip-hop in the early 70's
    and then Afrika Bambaata and Zulu Nation (mmhmm)
    who instigated something called The Infinity Lessons
    and added conciousness to hip-hop, and then Grandmaster Flash
    with the invention of the mixer, on to Run-D.M.C. and then myself.
    And uhh, we created the "Stop the Violence" movement, you may recall
    a song, "Self Destruction" and and and so on. All of this, goes to
    uhh uhh, the idea of LIVING this culture out and taking responsibility
    for how it looks and and acts in society.
     
  8. chuckus

    chuckus Can't stop the bum rush.

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    Lol I never recommend rappers unless the beat is good. Here are guidelines to showing hip hop and/or rap music.

    1) people who don't listen to rap are not used to the accents, the speed at which it's spoken, slang, and mispronounciations on purpose. THerefore they do'nt get the words.

    2) Because they do'nt get the words they listen to the beat and the flow of the words. If it's a complex fast flow like Ill Bill has as well as the rest of Non Phixion then forget it. PEople are gonna think it's retarded and stupid.

    3) Majority of people like commercial rap because it's 90% beat to 10% lyrics. The words are stuck there to fit the music. Which is why it sounds so dumb and cookie cutter. That's not hip hop. That's a part of it but it's not All of hip hop. Underground rap is in a category all it's own.

    4) Listen to the type of music they listen to and try to matc hto a style of rap. Classical beats, Rock rap, trippy pill popping rap done to jazzy funk beats, depends on what the person is looking for. You plop a JEdi Mind Tricks CD in fron of a gay man he's not gonna take too kindly to the homophobic remarks in every song. Just keep the persons personality in mind and try to expose them to a wide variety of rap.

    5) never attempt to convert white dudes who spend their time watching so much anime they see the battle armor from Jin Roh staring back at them in the mirror and feel sexy because of it. I usually just pass them a nice Japanese Hentai mag and step back slowly.... not refering to keganator of course.. ;)
     
  9. OpFor

    OpFor Feeling suicide, thats O.K.

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    Bleh...rap is so damn bland and fake. Its like nickleback but with stupid people that seem to TRY not to speak english correctly. Atleast nickleback has different lyrics for the one song ;) Everything in rap is pretty much about one ****ing thing only. I have seen a total of three, yes folks, a grand wopping total of THREE rap songs that weren't about some african american grabbing his genitals and riding around in fast cars with prostitutes, or complaining because he is not. Funny how the only rap that doesn't make me want to vomit in rage is from a pasty white guy named Marshal Matthers. Even then though, I come close to punching the radio in my truck everytime I hear him.

    With that said, I would like to comment on all these new rap bands. Is it me or is there litterally a new one every few weeks? Seriously, it's ****ing insane. Hopefully this genre will attract so much white middle class people that it will burn out in every aspect except for non commercial "genre".

    *OpFor snickers and laughs at the angry black people* :p
     
  10. chuckus

    chuckus Can't stop the bum rush.

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    I hate it when people judge rap solely on commercial rap. That's like saying Blink 182 is REAL hardcore punk.

    it's funny.. because none of you have heard Non PHixion's Black Helicopters. If you did and understood the words, they put all the anti government sentiments all of you collectively place on these boards in the form of a rap song. And the guy waving his middle finger on the top of this page is in it. Don't judge them because they're thugged out. IT's just the way they want to look and grew up looking like. Chingy on the other hand can have his testicles removed and fed to him. RIGHT THURRRRR!~
     
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  11. U/D/T/SNAKE

    U/D/T/SNAKE Only partially annoying now

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    I used to like rap when you could take it for what it was, just some stupid mindless crap with a beat that didnt take itself seriously (ala fat boys, run dmc, doug e fresh etc) now its a joke. My wife (born in ethiopia and lived till she was 8) hates it. Her encounter with black americans (ussually kids) ussually stuns her and leave her competely befuddled. She always says that the music, the cloths, the talk, the walk, everything, is in her words "people like that are like the bratty children of the United States, she then ussualy says, they are so lost" This is all refering to the hip hop rap crap ebonics crowd.
     
  12. janno

    janno Reanimator

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    De La Soul-for starters...

    Yeah thats nice-the most immature rapper around...

    Black?
     
  13. Ice

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    I just don't like rap because it doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather take instrumental creativity over lyrics anyday. Sure, there's rappers out there that have been there and done that, and rap about it. I'm just not interested in those, nor the ones that haven't, or anything of that sort.
     
  14. Afrodiziak

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    had to reply with the lyrics, to show the impact. and he's not shouting out to them, he's making a political statement, as Bill does in most of his tunes (along with Non Phixion also for that matter:

     
  15. Afrodiziak

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    gangster" **** they play on mtv all day. obviously i'm not gonna try and force anyone to like rap or agree with me, everyone has their own tastes and opinions, even within hip hop, no need to be gay and agree or ****. i'm ashamed to say i'm a hip-hop fan most of the time, cos people usually think of 50 cent or jay-z bull****. i can't stand the weak trash they spit. There was something in the newspaper yesterday about joe buddens on Usher's new song

    if she talking bout keeping it/one punch to the stomach/she leakin it

    yeah, very harsh, but living on necro & ill bill for the last couple of years, it's a ***** line....

    anyway...
     
  16. Ryan

    Ryan banned

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    for me the lyrics are only half of what bugs me about rap, i look for musical depth, people with real talent who actuly write and play there own music. hireing some fat white guy in his basement to produce some "phat beats" isnt really hard to do..its harder to believe whole song is comprised of 2 parts, 7s long that repeat throughout :rolleyes:
     
  17. Afrodiziak

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    see, again, you're just generalising rap as dr dre style sampled soul tracks, necro (talking about him again) has long and crafted beats played with real instruments (for someone who's songs 90% consist of how he's going to kill you and rape your wife, he plays piano, violin and flute) for an example, listen to iLL BiLL - Final Scene, and you'll see for yourself, the beat could have come straight from a bond movie
     
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    well, if thats the case for him , sounds to me like those lyrics would never work for me, i love wifes, and hate rapists :lol:

    btw, does this guy write his own music?
     
  19. Afrodiziak

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    yea, every word, every beat. you mentioned real talent, some of the lyrics they come up with are amazing, even if they are talking about gore & porn.

    Metaphors "**** up your life like teen moms"

    political statement Non Phixion - Black Helicopters

    Alliteration "billions of body bags, blood drenched battlefields, big butcher knives, you ****ing faggot, you get your ****ing face erased from your cabbage"

    Storytelling The Ill Bill series of tunes 'License to Ill' 'Swordfish' and 'The Final Scene'

    Alliteration 2 "i feature a feast of middle fingers of **** you's, **** off faggot, put my foot in your face, follow through"

    personification "Death Smiles at murder, pain shakes the hand of homicide
     
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  20. Vega-don

    Vega-don arreté pour detention de tomate prohibée

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    hehe i love ill bill music to! he has nice lines , he is crazy , anti govt , and flows better than eminem

    but i wont claim that its super intelligent music, but music or entertenment isnt supposed to be intelligent but entertaining :D

    my favorite lines from ill bill are from a freestyle named 89.9 freestyle num 2

    he says something like

    "**** the police , another pig dead and decapitated in the street and left the faggot beheaded" then "you know you liked it , plus i got the lady that you love preignant ,biatch, **** you"


    haha thats so brutal that it is funny
     

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