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Stupid Stupid drum

Discussion in 'New Version Suggestions' started by ANUBIS199, Oct 21, 2001.

  1. Shrap

    Shrap Beaver

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    BUMP ...
    We must have a this sytem.
    I'll continue tu BUMP even if I'm alone.
    BUMP BUMP BUMP
     
  2. yurch

    yurch Swinging the clue-by-four

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    What?
    I told you, making up a dumb limitation to enforce your own hatred of a tactic is just plain pathetic.
    Attack the realism flaws, not the gun.
     
  3. Shrap

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    you just don't understand don't you ! MAYBE READING THE POSTS WOULD HELP ! :mad:
    It WOULD BE REALISTIC ! IN REAL LIFE YOU CAN'T FIRE AS MUCH ROUNDS IN A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME WITH AN M16 THAN WITH A M249. IT WOULD HELP THE M249. IT WOULD HELP ALL MACHINE GUNS BECAUSE THEY ARE DESIGNED TO FIRE LIKE THAT. A M-16 ISNT SO IT WILL PREVENT PEOPLE OF FIRING AN M16 LIKE A MACHINE GUN. :mad:
     
  4. yurch

    yurch Swinging the clue-by-four

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    Missed that post. Sorry.
     
  5. Shrap

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    Its ok...:D
     
  6. Shrap

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    BUMP !

    Do I need to create a new thread to have a slight chance of getting the "processed" picture ?
     
  7. Gholam

    Gholam Sergeant (Reserve), IDF

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    Heh, thing is, for most weapons, that "number of bullets" is more than we can take in Inf.
     
  8. striderteen

    striderteen New Member

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    If we're going to introduce weapon overheating causing barrel damage and hence loss of accuracy, we should have a heat level meter.

    Not like the silly gauge on the RTCW Minigun, something approximate like the team's introducing for ammunition level. You don't have to be particularly well-trained to tell when your gun's getting uncomfortably hot.
     
  9. RAZZ

    RAZZ aka FURY13RT

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    I think the jobs better served by the recoil system for weapons.
    anyone firing in such a way to rip out the barrel, probly isint hitting much to start with.
    The minmi is the first gun thats going to push that theory.
    100 rounds, reloadable, and INTENDED to be used for that purpose.
     
  10. FiringAimlessly

    FiringAimlessly NOT going to waste another minute on CS!

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    Maybe an animation showing your non-trigger hand constantly releasing the handguard at certain intervals when the gun gets too hot...

    On the silly side, we could have someone accidentally touch the barrel for some really stupid reason and start screaming... :D
     
  11. Shrap

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    I rode that M16 and M4 overheat very easely ! Like 2-3 mags in 1 minut would kill the barrel ...correct me if im wrong ...
     
  12. The_Fur

    The_Fur Back in black

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    `yup after about 100 rounds it gets so hot it won't stop firing untill the mags are empty it'll cook them off on it's own wether you pull the trigger or not.
     
  13. Shrap

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    So we MUST have this feature in !
     
  14. striderteen

    striderteen New Member

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    Yes, a realistic answer to run 'n gun tactics -- and we need it all the more, now that ammo limit is gone.

    The n00bs may be n00b-turtles now, but they'll be heavily armed turtles blasting away with tons of ammo...and they probably won't use the Minimi once its novelty wears out -- they'll use SIG 551 and FAMAS on "30-round burst" or the AKMSU with drums.

    If we make the weapon overheat and, depending on the RL behavior, jam/lose accuracy, such behaviour would be curtailed sharply.

    I know the team said no jamming, but random jamming is different from overheated jamming, ne?
     
  15. FiringAimlessly

    FiringAimlessly NOT going to waste another minute on CS!

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    Why don't you think they'll use the Minimi?
     
  16. striderteen

    striderteen New Member

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    Because it has major disadvantages as well as advantages...there's a reason armies don't equip every single trooper with a LMG rather than an assault rifle.

    By carrying a ton of ammo, and especially with the AKMSU drums, the n00bs can have a pseudo machine gun with the lightness and agility of a assault rifle or carbine.
     
  17. Shrap

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    :lol::lol:

    For the rest ...I don't think we will be able to fire correctly with the minini even when standing still ...well maybe ...but it will have another disadvantage for being a LMG...

    I don't really care for the Akmsu with drums because recoil is so heavy that they won't like it...and the akmsu CAN fire through 3-4 drums before melting according to the people around here...
    But for the Sig, M4, M16, G36C and the Famas ...I think we should limit the over-firing...
    I don't know if the submachine gun does the same thing ...anyone ?
     
  18. RAZZ

    RAZZ aka FURY13RT

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    if they balance things out properly, the minmi will be used for what SAWs tend to be used for.
    making the enemy keep his head down by throwing alotta **** their way :)
    a high rof and long clip does not a good entry weapon make.
     
  19. The_Fur

    The_Fur Back in black

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    actually the minimi is classified as both an AR and a LMG (check out www.fas.org). It's just a bit heavier then the m16m203 combination (5,99 vs 6,88 kg) though a 200 round box mag does weigh another 3,14 kg.

    The SAW replaces old m16a1's on a one for one basis. that means 2 per squad.
     
  20. striderteen

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    Huh?

    I thought it was one LMG per squad -- one M249, one M-16/M-203 (squad leader) and two plain M-16s. In the U.S. Army, at least. The Marines have three-man squads, IIRC, so they've got one M249, one M-16/M-203 and one plain M-16.
     

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