Firstly ; WB Shadow dweller.. bout time to said something to me.. instead of playing the
Ignoramus
CB said:
Wises you sure can type but I wish you had some othe skills like
1) Suggesting sagacious and iconoclastic features
2) Reporting bugs (including accessed none warning)
3) Stop whining on inclusion of your name in credits
1.)
iconoclastic:
1. One who attacks and seeks to overthrow traditional or popular ideas or institutions.
2. One who destroys sacred religious images.
^ YES that is me
sagacious:
Having or showing keen discernment, sound judgment, and farsightedness.
^ sounds about right also.
2.) I'm not here to be your "Accessed None Boy" chap you got that? Also I don't care for access none's personally .. not my problem
^ where did you even get the impression that I signed up for this .. to even be a beta tester?.. I don't remember
that! being any kind of agreement.. Iam and always will be .. an "Idea's Man" if you want someone to be your 'Access None Seeker' ~ look elsewhere.
3.) Credits;
a simple
thanks for the idea's or we implemented some of your idea's thanks.. in the readme is not much to ask for is it?.. it's a principle thing. and referring back to 1.) Iconoclastic / Sagacious .. concepts.. I think you will find that these things will be probably welcomed.. time will tell.
also perhaps you would like to also accuse ProASM of some of these things as well.. because um..
Original / traditional Layout;
vs Iconoclastic (new layout);
^example by definition of the word .. yeah?
CB said:
1) All the suggestions you made were either borrowed from some other mod (do some introspection) or too fatuous (hashing IP + Host + whatnot is third rated idea and that too implimenting in mod like smartdm arant foolishness). So there my friend you were of no use.
You see CB.. the things that are/were borrowed as such .. are mostly thing s that work and are of importance. Being able to certify that players are who they say they are (lolz) allows for the system(s) to work as intended. ie; to further borrow on this tangent would be to use the players NexGen ID.. from their user.ini as this is somewhat further certification of who they are .. and does not have problems with several users from a LAN connection all using the same ip/host .. But different computers.
An 'extension to' or even simpler idea would be to either make a unique id in their smartDM.ini for them (which is no good for several users of the same PC) or to add a SmartID to their user.ini (which will work somewhat for those who run ~ multiple profiles) using different user.ini's (ACORP) etc.
not foolproof.. but checks for the first 2 octets of their IP 192.168.*.* could either confirm / deny that they are at least from the same network imo.
also on the note of "borrowed Idea's" this whole board is full of them.. all for the most part from SmartCTF.. which I doubt / even-tho you played a part in the further development of.. did not come up with all of the aspects for it by yourself.. Hypocrite
So please don't 'Lecture' me on such things
CB said:
2) The bugs you reported were "hey ProAsm this is not working", "hey ProAsm that is not working", "hey ProAsm I cant **** any more". These inconsequantial statements (without providing full server log, mutatorlists and the environment in which problem can be replicated) leads to vexation (specially for us coders). Here again you were of no use.
^ that part their in Bold.. when exactly did any of you even ask for this?.. yes I must admit that because I do things unconventionally run Actors as Mutators (Pure Based Crap) and such.. that this could indeed be the problem.. TBH I forgot all about the .log's (level 1 admin *Smiles @ ProASM*) stuff. But yet .. no one mentioned these things nor were interested.. I presume. Actually it wasn't until a more recent post by ProASM that I clicked.. and started testing somewhat with nothing else loaded.. and trying to find which mod (of many) maybe causing the conflict.
that in itself is no easy task on a live server. *BTW I did provide the
Environment.. to ProASM who never got around to connecting to it..
as for providing mutator lists and stuff.. after getting the distinct impression that no0ne was listening to half the crap I posted .. I had the feeling that .. perhaps the case would also be re: 'My setup' , I was simply stating.. that the mod SmartDM had some issues with my setup on yes countless occasions .. which seemingly fell on def ears. Also Iam sure that you
could have just popped onto the server as ping is not an issue for you .. and see for yourself the problems I was having .. but did you?.. (do I need to check the .log's for your Mobile connection IP and/or hostname + random_alias)
in any case you said nothing to help and in-fact offered nothing of any nature to assist in the problems I was dealing with.. why?.. I also invited ProASM over countless times to which he had problems connecting because his ping was too high 500ms+
CB said:
3) You want your name in credits, learn coding. Beta testers (though you were not) are seldom mentioned in products. Just see any developer team (like that of Ubuntu or other opensource). Consider yourself lucky that with this attitude ProAsm even wrote your name.
^ consider yourself lucky that I believe in your idea and am here to HELP make it better CB. This was me and ProASM's concept to further IMPROVE on your rarely used Scoreboard.. because WE seen it's potential.. and had insight into BETTERING IT.. for everyone. also assisted by sp0ngeB0b who made the slimline concept in his board .. the only other Board ever created for use with your SYSTEM in fact. Even the Japanese were struggling with making their own custom board.. and just cache raped his one for use on their server's.. And they my friend are very smart
CB said:
Anyways all you suggestions were for scoreboard which might earn you a chance of seeing your name in some post of release thread.
^ Don't worry , like I stated earlier.. I have done this already myself .. I don't need/want your approval for anything in which I feel I brought to this project thanks.
CB said:
Now I never wanted to be mentioned in credits. I made it clear. I even asked ProAsm to remove my name. But his principles didn't allow to expurgate my name. If I am in credits, then this mod should reflect me. And I dont like !****ty commands. Do one thing shorten your name to !W (and make people wonder if it stands for weiner or something else )
I fail to see how you even became a developer CB.. I mean you over look the most commonsense aspects of developing.. (Iam a developer) maybe not exactly a coding guru .. but I can get myself around what I need to in order to achieve my goals.. and producing a product/service which is not only aesthetically pleasing but also functional (your part) as well as easy to use or has a high 'usability' factor.
all of these things are what makes something successful chap .. not just one particular aspect of them.. ie; being able to code efficiently.
TBH I am not exactly sure as to what your intentions were with this thing , but I get the distinct impression that it failed. Because imo this was some kind of system which enabled coders? to create custom Scoreboards which is basically what I can gather from smartDM yeah?
however for lack of !simplicity you actually invented something which is/was totally the reverse of what it was intended to be used for. As even seasoned veterans like ProASM even struggle with
the most simplest of tasks.. like moving a variable 'position' or 'image' or anything on the whole entire board. We have actually discussed Re-Inventing it in fact for !simplicities sake .. which would make it 'Highly' configurable and easier then it currently is.
or would you not like us to do that ?.. because it's not intended for NUB's but only a select few coding ninja's who have left the game and found better engine's to play with? meh..
Again you should consider yourself lucky that with your attitude ProAsm still honours you and your "advices" and spends his night just to fulfill you voracious demands. I mean what the f*** more do you want from him dude.
^ Ohh
WE (The community / admins / users of this mod) are very Grateful.. and believe me I feel sorry for the Man for having to be bombarded with all my thoughts and visions for this project.
like he stated above he was only going to allow for a couple of things which ironically enough I requested BTW.. as 4 Big fat boxes didn't cater for a 12~16 slot server (never has/never will).. which is why this thing never really took off in any direction imo.
Also I believe that ProASM shares alot of my idea's / concepts and probably beliefs in general.. albeit non con-formative to say the least
and I think for this;
CB said:
Another coder, given your attitude, will either ignore you or welcome you with scorns.
^ in which case I assume this is you.. the coder dude which shows scorn.
I know and am expecting another descant from you side clearly showing that you wont change you pigheaded obduracy.
Obduracy:
The state or quality of being intractable or hardened.
^ Again true , I really do appreciate all these non-layman terms for the traits that I have.. this post for the most part at least extended my somewhat limited vocabulary .. for which I am grateful.
^ also true of you indeed.. as we would'nt be having this conversation had you not had similar traits yourself.
KJB said:
Do Not Judge
(Luke 6:37-42; Romans 14:1-12)
1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
example: I don't want simple !w(einer) cmds in my cot.
(laughs* sorry pffft...)
CB said:
Just read this part of long post. I wish I could to slap you.
^ lawl's , come at me bro.. you *Fighter* you..
^ in game.. of course.. I myself can't really fight TNBH. (and suck at UT in general)
wow 2 hours wasted on trying to get a simple point across.. and counting.
Note: any associations with the player
Fighter are speculative and may/not pertain to any person's within this post but used as a metaphor in these instances.