Where do i get tribe symbols and i want to learn how to skin, i've been doing some but there not as great as i want them to be, i want to know, i've been hearing that there vtm's on the ut2004 cd's which disk? cause i'd really like to start modeling characters, and meshes, i've seen the work of hide, theslaughter, and klasnic ad want to be as good as them, i know it will take time but i need to know how to do this stuff.