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Shock primary vs LG

Discussion in 'Unreal Tournament 2003/2004' started by Bullet10k, Apr 12, 2006.

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Shock primary or LG

  1. Shock primary

    54.3%
  2. LG

    45.7%
  1. Wookiee

    Wookiee Lets Rock

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    I play VCTF, and the shock primary is a necessity for killing raptors/mantas.

    However, I use the LG MUCH more for killing other players.

    I guess if it really came down to it, I'd have to choose shock, just because of the usefulness.
     
  2. Kantham

    Kantham Fool.

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    Shock primary in VCTF. Always. Against EVERYTHING.
    Piss me off.
     
  3. nuttella

    nuttella Scare

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    If it didn't kill everything so well I wouldn't use it.
     
  4. hal

    hal Dictator Staff Member

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    removed last two posts so that we can move on...
     
  5. ShakeZula

    ShakeZula New Member

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    You could take two identical bots and give one the Ltg and one the Shock and put them in a square room and see who wins.

    Edit: ahh you'd have to alter the bots so they didn't use secondary shock though :/
     
  6. Wookiee

    Wookiee Lets Rock

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    I do use the LG to headshot scorpion drivers, but other than that shock is the most effective hitscan against vehicles.
     
  7. Spiffy935

    Spiffy935 New Member

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    LTG for my victories

    It is just my preference. I know that the SR is an overall better weapon due to its higher ROF and its diverse uses, but I just like that feeling of being able to hit someone twice with a LTG for a kill knowing that if I would have missed once, I wouldn't have gotten a second chance. Please don't flack or flame me for this, but quite frankly with no offense or sounding like I am amazing, I just feel more "professional" with my LTG kills.
     
  8. T2A`

    T2A` I'm dead.

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    I am professional at a computer video game.

    I can't pick one for this thread as long as we're talking about just the primary fire. Each primary has something good about it: lightning has splash and headshot, shock has high ROF and momentum transfer. Separate neither wins for me, but together shock and lightning are something special.

    As far as the whole gun goes, I'd definitely pick shock. Shock combos are suite, and if you're looking purely at numbers, it's 45-200 (or something) damage for shock versus the lightning's 35-140.
     
  9. indy900

    indy900 [mXc]indy

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    SR because i can shoot twice before the lighning gun recharges then get the hell out of the way. they miss then i shoot twice....
     
  10. ALG

    ALG Gallardo

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    I hide behind the corner while my LG recharges. Then when its ready I step around, hit you, and step back.
     
  11. Skold

    Skold Sexy!

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    Right into a combo! ;)
     
  12. hal

    hal Dictator Staff Member

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    /me points to OP
     
  13. ALG

    ALG Gallardo

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    :rolleyes: ;)
     
  14. Argosax

    Argosax Gunning for Glory

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    Shock wins because of the knock back and RoF.
    Most lg players tape the fire button down too, but they are angry because the schock rof beats them
     
  15. -AEnubis-

    -AEnubis- fps greater than star

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    lol that behavior with lg is suicide.

    Lightning then shock shock shock, and back to lightning when a shock beam misses.

    Rather rox juggle either which way.
     
  16. Argosax

    Argosax Gunning for Glory

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    i´ve seen it done a lot
     
  17. --Under

    --Under Underestimated user

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    Batman with Lg.
     
  18. Argosax

    Argosax Gunning for Glory

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    it´s a matter of public record that spiderman with a shock can beat all other superheroes but spock
    /nerdfight
     
  19. HardcorexxX

    HardcorexxX (.)(.)

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    Well TBH bullet was the only person who took anything into account other than "i think i do this most of the time"

    But still bullet you left out one glaring thing, your first shot is instant, there is no timer

    soooo with an LG it goes 70 dmg, 1.6sec, 70 dmg = dead @ 100hp
    (you dont even need a full hit, even splash from the lg will make the kill on the second shot, but it still takes the full charge time)

    shock 45, .7, 45dmg, .7, 45dmg =dead @ 100 hp
    (with knock back you can expect to at least hit 2 in a row)

    so with 100hp u have shock winning with 1.4s vs 1.6s to lg


    That makes them pretty much dead on, remove the ability to combo and LG trumps shock primary in most situations due to HS/splash damage/range, not to mention the LG has armor penetration abilites the shock lacks, if you take armor scaling into account i doubt the shock would come out on top. It a really hard question really, basicaly your taking the most wel rounded versitale weapon in the game, the shock, removing its well roundedness, and pittig it against the most leathal weapon in the game, the lg.
     
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  20. Bullet10k

    Bullet10k New Member

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    You can forget about splash, it's so random, and it rarely occurs, if it wasn't so random that I would actually shoot the floor if I knew the opponents really low instead of risking a body shot and missing, THEN I would take it into account. I've even tried hitting the floor or wall sometimes, even though it's really close, it still doesn't hit, and sometimes when I shoot it like metres away, it still somehow hits.

    Compare:

    Shock:
    + Knockback messes up your opponents aim
    + Knockback helps you aim
    + Rapid ROF (resulting in much higher dmg/sec)

    - Headshot incapable (resulting in low max damage)
    - Low (balanced) damage numbers, 5 less than 50 damage each shot makes a whole lot of difference when it comes to health and armor coming it 25s, 50s, and 100s.

    (reverse is LG)

    I think that's about as fair as you can get. I don't know anything about armor penetration so I didn't put it.
     
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