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RAzOR

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The following is a copy of the Feedback I sent to SF. Enjoy.
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1. In the 'Features' section, the picture of your so-called Micro UZI is, in fact, a picture of a full-sized UZI.
2. Regardless of what hollywood films may show, the TEC.9 cannot fire fully automatic without extensive convertation. So, it is not a SMG.
3. 'Kalashnikov' is spelt wrong.
4. Why is the SIG SG551 SWAT a terrorist-only weapon?
As the name suggests, it is very much used by anti-terror squads all over the world.
5. Why does the terrorists get access to fiveof your so-called 'submachineguns', and the counterterrorists only two?
6. The Glock 19 does NOT fire .45 ammunition. It fires 9mm.
7. What gun is the '.44 Mag Terrorist'? I do NOT think such a gun exists.
8. Why do you take all your pictures from SecurityArms.com or HKPRO?
9. WHY DOES SF FUCK UP MY UT WHEN I TRY TO FUCKING UNINSTALL IT ??!!??
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely Yours,
RazoR
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Should be fun to see their reply.

EDIT: Removed first complaint.

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[This message was edited by RazoR on Sep 09, 2000 at 06:48.]
 

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hey, wrong forum buddy /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
after d'loading 1.4 i have sworn of strike force altogether

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The definition of submachine gun is no longer limited to a full automatic weapon firing pistol cartridges. The AKMSU, M16 Commando, AND SIG SG-552 all qualify as submachine guns.

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so what is the definition of an SMG

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Officially, SMG is the abbreviation for SUB CALIBER MACHINE-GUN.

An assault carbine that fires handgun rounds. There are however exceptions such as the AKSU-74(tho 5.45mm is also a handgun round).

The only 5.56mm sofar that some people call an is the HK-53. Though HK themselves designated it a compact-carbine.

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I'm not clear of the caliber thing, what calibers are considered pistol rounds and what are considered rifle rounds. The .45 is used in pistols - to my knowledge, SOCOMs use it, as well as sniper rifles - I not sure about this one but the AWP uses .45 rounds.

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RAzOR

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IIRC, the AWP/M fires either .338 or .308 rounds..
I might be wrong. Gryphon?

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.45 is a handgun round. The Accuraccy International Action Warfare Magnum fired the .338 LAPUA round. The entire system is a version of the AICS which is available in a multitude of calibers.

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All caliber is is the diamater of the round in inches (so a .22 cal is .22 inches in diameter).

There's usualy more to the designation of a round then just it's caliber. Using the .22 as an example, there are several variations of a round that is .22" in diameter, the .22 long is a rifle round and the .22 short is a handgun round.

There are .45 rifle rounds, the .45 handgun round is the .45 ACP (I think ACP stands for Auto Chambering Pistol).

Another example is the .50 AE vs the .50 BMG. The .50AE (for Action Express) is what you put in Desert Eagles, while the .50 BMG (which I'm not sure what it means) is what goes in the Robar .50 (is that also what's in the M2 .50?)

So are you confused yet? This is why there are people like Griphon, cause it takes a special person to remember all this /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (just be glad you're not a quartermaster)

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DeadeyeDan[ToA]

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Yea, and technically there are pistols that fire 5.56's, 7.62's, hell even .50 BMG (Browning Machine Gun)... granted, they wouldn't fit in any regular pistol holster, but they are pistols- the trick is to not get to anal about classifying guns, there is too much variety and inconsistency to make everything fit in their own little file.

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