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Rent is too damn high

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Peavey, Oct 19, 2010.

  1. daloonie

    daloonie sex boobs nude

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    That beard is epic, I want one!

    In fact I'll start growing one just like it!
     
  2. Twisted Metal

    Twisted Metal Anfractuous Aluminum

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    Naaah, he looks like Samuel L Jackson!
     
  3. Crotale

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    Correction, both major political parties solicit for donations.

    And yet, New York has rent control measures in place. The issue is that too many people want to live there even though they clearly cannot afford it.

    While many companies do send their jobs overseas, we also get jobs from foreign companies setting up shop here, such as Honda, BMW, Toyota, shall I continue?

    This is pure bull****. As one of the largest employers, Home Depot has about 350,000 employees, full and part time. Payroll for 2009 was around $6B, with its CEO pay and allowances ranging less than $9M. So, yeah, 15% of 1% of the total payroll going to the CEO means he is making more than the rest of the company combined alright. If you take that $9M and divide it amongst the "regular" employees it comes to about $25.7 more a year in income for each person. (I edited due to bad, er, fuzzy math)

    Then you have the highest paid CEO, Larry Ellison of Oracle, whose company employs over 105,000, receives pay and allowances over $80M annually. Employee payroll for Oracle is also hovering around $8B, so yeah, Larry is making about 1% of his company's payroll (he is also one of Oracle's creators and owners). If you take Larry's pay and divide it amongst his employees, each one will net an increase of about $800 per year. Keep in mind that most of Oracle's employees are already very well compensated.
     
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  4. Big-Al

    Big-Al amateur de bière

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    I use Oracle.
     
  5. 213

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    didn't say they weren't both in the pockets of lobbyists and as greedy as a workday is long. I think you misunderstood me, or you have never read my previous posts. I hate all politicians on both sides of the American debate teams. All of them argue solely on behalf of greedy corporations and money mongers. Everything else they do is just posturing and pointless lip service.


    the fact that a city needs "rent control" shows that something is wrong. Dreadfully, horribly, greeeeeedily wrong.


    Yeah 'cause that's so helpful for our economy. (hit: the majority of that company's profits are not going into the American economy.)


    You got really up-at-arms about a guy who has no chance at all. Did seeing a political candidate with some integrity infuriate you that much?

    No one expects the ceo's to share their wages, no one argued that the people in charge don't deserve to get paid well. What lingers in most Americans minds (sorry the poor ones, you may have to try being poor for a while to develop some empathy..) is where is the divide actually at? the middle ground is being taken away and replaced with more people having to live below the poverty level.

    What happened to the range where both parents working full time meant a chance to save up and move forward. Now both parents working full time means they can pay their rent, and maybe juggle their bills most of the time, as long as nothing goes wrong. (no one gets sick first of all.. that'll **** your budget right up in a hurry. Hooray for freerange privatized healthcare! Try not to get cancer or you're ****ed!)

    This guy running on the "rent is too damn high" ticket is exactly right, plain and simple. There's no arguing that inflation itself is a sign that something is wrong with the system as it works and the system needs to be changed. Inflation is caused plain and simple by greed. nothing more. there's no validating it, at all, ever. Someone in charge wants to see bigger numbers they start a catalyst of events to cause the numbers to inflate. They profit while the rest of the system catches up, and they stay ahead of the curve.

    As for your ceo argument, behind every single fortune is a series of crimes and shady dealings that left others with nothing, or at least substantially less than they started with. Even after they get done robbing and stealing their way to the top of whatever they were doing, for every ceo you can point out who manages to restrain themselves from robbing their employees blind, I could just as easily google one who has gone over the deep end and has been or is currently under investigation for all sorts of over complicated crimes that break down to "being a greedy a-hole" in less polite terminology.

    Greed exists. Not everyone (hardly anyone who is wealthy) deserves their wealth. The top 2% of the world DO control FAR more than the other 98% of the world's wealth. Money goes uphill, not down. That stuff coming downhill, that's not money, no matter what those in charge would have you believe.

    You pointed out 2 ceo's who manage to remain somewhat sane given their success (and how did they get that success boys and girls?). Pick up a newspaper, I'll bet there are 5 in there on any given day who couldn't keep their greed in check.
     
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  6. d3tox

    d3tox Face down in a pool of his own vomit.

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    Does anyone ever say, "You know what, I make enough money. I'll pass it on this time"?

    **** NO. GET OVER IT.

    Even if its legal, ethical, its still greed. Do I blame them? No, thats the system... Without people who have tons of $$, most of us wouldnt have jobs.
     
  7. Mozi

    Mozi Zer0 as a number

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    This guy puts the LOL in LOLITICS! I'd vote for him...
     
  8. BITE_ME

    BITE_ME Bye-Bye

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    I only vote for hairless dead people.
     
  9. pine

    pine Official Photography Thread Appreciator

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    It kills me that this seems to have become common knowledge these days. The ultra-rich and ultra-powerful are NOT a necessary part of a healthy economy.
     
  10. BITE_ME

    BITE_ME Bye-Bye

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    So. You would like every one to be broke and stupid?
    Just grow some hair, and be an Ape again :rolleyes:
     
  11. kiff

    kiff That guy from Texas. Give me some Cash

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    In the 2nd vid (of OP) he looks like a cross of SL Jackson and Hulk Hogan :lol:

    I don't think many CEO's are "ultra" rich and poweful, that's more like Soros and co. Now he's bad for economies (yes plural)
     
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    It's not so much the way he looks, but the way he talks that reminds me of Mr.T ;)
     
  13. Lizard Of Oz

    Lizard Of Oz Demented Avenger

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    By "co." you must mean the Koch brothers.
     
  14. kiff

    kiff That guy from Texas. Give me some Cash

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    yes Liz, because they're known for making their fortunes by the devaluation of currencies and economies
     
  15. Lizard Of Oz

    Lizard Of Oz Demented Avenger

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    Nope, they just inherit it and use it to covertly buy elections.
     
  16. pine

    pine Official Photography Thread Appreciator

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    Well, I had to make that as a generic statement because it was in response to a generic statement. Some CEOs happen to be richer and more powerful than others. Some very rich and powerful people are not CEOs. What I'm referring to is simply the very rich and powerful, whoever they are. I disagree that we should cherish them like some kind of natural resource and cater our policies towards them in hopes that they create jobs and spread the wealth, when most evidence seems to indicate that they prefer to invest overseas and keep their wealth. ;)
     
  17. Crotale

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    Well, when you mentioned Republicans by name and nobody else...

    Not necessarily. The reasons for higher property values in a given city can be due to a myriad of reasons, to include the population density. Consider New York City, NY versus Rapid City, SD. NYC's population density is greater than 26K persons per square mile, as compared to Rapid's 1400. You're going to tell me that the rent for a two-bedroom apartment in NYC should be comparable to rent for the same sized abode in Rapid? You simply cannot supply enough residences for 8 million people in a 44 square mile area and come out with low affordable rent for everyone. As long as these idiots continue to overpopulate certain areas and expect the cost of living to be similar to the less dense parts of the country, you will have this issue.

    When it provides jobs, then yes.

    You are wrong. I like the guy's guile and his common sense mentality. What he says is right on the mark, except he isn't considering the fact that when you have millions of people crammed into a small area such as NYC, you are going to have all the issues he is complaining about.

    I do not need to be "poor" to understand the effect the economy is having on the poorest Americans. I see it all over Las Vegas, thanks.

    Blaming greed only on the big boys is very shortsighted. How about all the homebuyers who bought homes they knew they could not afford? And guess what, taxpayers are bailing out those idiots, even though the rest of us who did not get ourselves into that predicament get no relief. So please, don't preach to me about economic or social injustices.

    So, what you are saying is that most CEOs are criminals?
     
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    The Koch brothers are libertarians (one once ran as the Libertarian VP in '79). Since Libertarians never actually win elections, if they really are interested in buying elections, they sure are wasting a lot of money.
     
  19. Peavey

    Peavey Rattus Norvegicus

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    Larkin is a Koch brother. He drinks Koch Broth non-stop. And gets Koch Breath :lol:
     
  20. Renegade Retard

    Renegade Retard Defender of the newbie

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    Yet another fun thread killed by Serious Cat.
     

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