Remove Jumping!!

[phatcat]

ok... ok..

before you shoot me

take a look at most tactical games out there. Rainbow 6, Operation Flashpoint, and SWAT 3.

notice there there is NOT JUMPING?

Jumping in INF right now just contributes to hopping around out of reflex or becasue it makes your a harder target to hit.

I suggest we remove it and replace it with the ablity to climb up and over objects.

JUMP : climb up and over objects. like crates, and ledges. the move would have the player jump up and pull them up.

JUMP + SHIFT : leap over object, such as small objects that are waist high. examples are sandbags, stumps, small fences. the move would place one hand down on the infront of them at waist hight and

WALK or RUN (into small object) : walking up to small knee high objects would automaticlly have you make a large step up. slows the player down to make the move. but no jump is required.

DOUBLE-TAP FOWARD : player will jump up and foward in a small leap to skirt gaps.


I see this as being so much more realistic. Jumping is such a Quake feature. People really don't "JUMP" at all when you look at it. prehaps leap foward.

just a idea, what do you think?

 

[Infguy98]

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[R-Force]

And get rid of that *humf* the grunt make every time he tries to jump .

 

[The_Fur]

jumping=not nescessary, i wouldn't mind seeing it go.

 

[yurch]

From a coder/developer/animator point of view....
AAUAAUUUUUUGGHHHH!!!
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though

 

[phatcat]

Originally posted by yurch
From a coder/developer/animator point of view....
AAUAAUUUUUUGGHHHH!!!
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though

you know thats what I was thinking.

 

[DeadEyeNick]

I won't mind but if Jumping is remove, it'll be very difficult for teamA to navigate across Atoll, Team A are already at a slight disadvantage against snipers.

 

[phatcat]

oh well sucks to be them

 

[FiringAimlessly]

Just get rid of vertical leaps.

I wouldn't mind seeing a double-tap leap, but I'd find it a lot easier to do a forward leap simply by hitting the space bar while running/sprinting forwards, whereas if you're walking into an obstacle and hit space you'll try to climb over it...

EDIT: More spacebar functions? ...

Hitting space while crouched: Character jumps backwards in panic. Will drop larger rifles and drummed AK, immediately drawing out aimed sidearm.

Hitting space while standing and not moving: Very fast duck that takes a bit off the stamina. Player will stand up if spacebar is released.

Or would that be too cumbersome and confusing?

 

[{GD}Ghost]

Hitting space while standing and not moving: Very fast duck that takes a bit off the stamina. Player will stand up if spacebar is released. [/B]

I can already hear the cries of "duck whore!! duck whore!!

 

[RAZZ]

Jumping is a part of life.
I would suggest they add the other features, while reducing the height and increasing the penalty for making a jump.
but not taking it out altogether.

make it so walking up to an object and slowley crawling over it is the preferred method. but that jumping over a gap is still an option. (not an evasion)

maybe replace teh grunt sound with something that sounds more like 250 lbs of man and gear falling on the ground.

Because a major theme of the game is sneaking, theres got to be more ways of trading speed for stealth in all our movements.

 

[JaFO]

'double tap forward' already is 'dive prone' so that can't be done.
And the 'shift'-key is the 'toggle run' button in my key-setup.

// as to 'remove' jump :
make sure you've got a working alternative for climbing (small) objects and jumping over gaps first before you remove it completely.

 

[DamienW]

I'd rather have a way to escaladate obstacles that are of my height (which jumping doesn't allow now) than present jumping. So i say : "OK, Phatcat".
Hey hey, that's what i saaaay ....

 

[BrownCow]

Only a dumbass community like this would say something like "take out jumping."

"Jumping in INF right now just contributes to hopping around out of reflex or becasue it makes your a harder target to hit."

Learn to aim you freak'n tard. If you had ANY clue as to what you are talking about you would understand that a player who jumps is easier to hit then a player who does not. If you jump, you have no control over your body. You are an EASY TARGET against anyone who doesn't suck. If you are jogging or walking or running you can change direction and prevent being killed. You have it totally ass backwards.

But you guys wouldn't understand this because you are too busy pissing and moaning about why you can't hit the broad side of a barn with a damn m203.

"The barn is bunny hopping!!!"

 

[RAZZ]

a reminder for browncow...

There is no "lite footed evasion" in combat.
...you cant:
1. run fast enough to outpace the enemies lead on you.
2. zigzag in front of a firingsquad.
3. circle straif an armed opponent.
4. jump outta the way.

: then expect to live, and complain if you dont.

I hope the military dosent give you a gun and send you to afgan turf.
cause your going to walk out in front of the enemy and hop like a bunny in the hope god will add lag to real life so you dont die as a brilliant display of splattering blood and a fine example of stupidity.

even if you tried to drop all your gear and pretend to be an acrobat from cirque De Sol, how much hopping about you think you can do when its a 20 mile walk home?

 

[FiringAimlessly]

On a side note...

I have had no problem with hitting people who jump, as nearly all my misses are high due to recoil.

>'double tap forward' already is 'dive prone' so that can't be done.

- WIth my idea we'd remove dive prone entirely... I REALLY don't see the point of it, but if you could explain just what advantage it provides in a firefight (at least considering the rate at which you get up) I shall say no more...

And don't get me started on anatisexual prostitution and BrownCow in tights.

 

[RAZZ]

I think they were forcibly trying to instill come combat thinking, by using a UT players nautral instinct to double tap and dodge.

I turned mine off in the controls. I hate dodging AND diving.

 

[FiringAimlessly]

I turned mine off in the controls. I hate dodging AND diving.

I take it you do not and do not plan to play The Opera.

 

[Prowler]

*ignores rest of thread*
I take it if you plan on removing jumping then you plan on replacing it with climb? Like in R6? or something else, cuz its better to have jump then no jump at all.

 

[FiringAimlessly]

It is a given that jump would be replaced with climb should this get processed.

Many areas in most maps would suddenly become unreachable otherwise.