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really delete the file

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Zundfolge, Feb 7, 2001.

  1. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge New Member

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    What's the best way to go about deleting a file on a PC so that it cannot be "undeleted"?

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  2. Keiichi

    Keiichi Old Timer

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    Simple. Take your hard drive out, bash it with a hammer, take a blow torch to it for a couple minutes, and then drop it in a vat of sulfuric acid. :D

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  3. Meshuggah

    Meshuggah New Member

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    Boot the Computer in DOS, and do it there.

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  4. ShakKen

    ShakKen Specops Spook

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    learn to empty your recycle bin :rolleyes:

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  5. Dark Knight

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    ---Zund
    Best way to totally delete a file is as follows....

    1) Go into Dos (or a Win NT/2000) command prompt.
    2) Make a note of the size of the file you want to delete.
    3) Delete the file.
    4) Make a new file that is slightly smaller than the one you have just deleted.

    I dont know how much you know about (Windows/Dos) file systems so I'll explain the logic behind the above.

    When you delete a file from your harddisk, all that is removed is the file header - the contents of the file are still there but because windows/dos doesnt see a file header it ignores the file (there are disk recovery progs that will recover these files). This "headerless" file remains on your harddisk untill you do one of two things a) defrag the disk or b) write a new file to the same area of the disk. Once a new file is written to the disk the old one is gone for good.
    This only applies to Fat16/Fat32 disks, I'm not sure how NTFS handels things.

    :~)

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  6. Galaddin

    Galaddin Forum Drifter

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    You could always try rebooting windows in safe mode or DOS. You never know what files certain apps are using but generally you don't wanna mess with 'undeletable' files. :p

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  7. Lord_Bunker

    Lord_Bunker New Member

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    there are a few few progs you can download to do it. basically you need to delete it and then get it to right over that sector. keiichi you suggestion wouldn't work, there are places that specialize in data recovery and all they do is pull info from computers that have been in a building that burnt down. it's pretty supprising how much they can recover and how bad a disk can get.

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  8. owlofdoom

    owlofdoom New Member

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    do you have win 98? if you right click on your hard drive, there is an option to "clear free space", but empty your recyce bin first

    btw, just what do you need deleting so badly?

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  9. ThunderChunky

    ThunderChunky L337 Cube H@X0®

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    pr0n...

    And now I will run quickly to avoid the wrath of Zundfolge...

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  10. Goat Fucker

    Goat Fucker No Future!

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    Keiichi...i think u went a bit overboard, all u gotta do to destroy a hard-disk, is open it!

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  11. Zundfolge

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    Actualy it's not on my computer.

    It's on computer of the dead husband of a friend of my mothers, she found a second copy of his will and want's it super-erased so that the original will can't be contested.

    I'm not sure whether or not it's win95, 98, MO, 2000, or NT. I imagine it's 95 or 98.

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  12. deathren

    deathren Dusty ****er.

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    I'm always telling you people! It is porn, not "Pr0n"!

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  13. NRA

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    Highlight the file and hold shift then press the delete key. It will ask you if you want to delete the file (rather than if you want to send it to the recycle bin) and after you press ok it is permanently erased from your computer.

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  14. I_ABuGa

    I_ABuGa Vetran

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    huh?
    1. remove harddisk from PC chasis.
    2. take 8 Kg hammer and smack the sucker a good one.
    3. take to high place and drop.
    4. ensure that interior magnetic disks are truly scrapped.
    5. bury it with the bugger who owns it... owned it.

    alternately, first empty the recycle bin, then defrag the HD.
    Delete the file in question.
    Empty your recycle bin again.
    Log on to the internet and start downloading some pr0n, about 15 megs should be enuf.
    Defrag the hard disk again, then remove the pr0n, empty recycle bin.
     
  15. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge New Member

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    well I found what I needed, it's called BCWipe

    http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/bcwipe.htm


    The Department of Defense actualy has a standard for the secure deletion of files ->
    DOD 5200.28-STD

    It requires that a file be deleted, and then overwritten 7 times with random data.

    That's what I was looking for :D

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  16. T101

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    Another way to really clean out your HD is to wash it. No better way to get rid of those rusty magnetic particles than soap!

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  17. phatcat

    phatcat akward cat

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    if it was up to me, I would copy the information that was important to another harddrive. take the old hard drive. open it. take a peice of steel wool, take each disk out, rub the disks. throw the disks in another trashcan that was not mine (work friends, ect.)

    no more incriminating information.

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  18. thornz

    thornz Inhuman...yes indeed

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    yeah

    Norton Utilities for mac comes with Wipe, which does that ovewrite thing. It seems like incredible overkill though.

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  19. ThunderChunky

    ThunderChunky L337 Cube H@X0®

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    Standard Operating Procedure for destroying disks with sensitive data on them:

    1) Degauss the crap out of them.
    2) Burn them.

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