Just goes to show how inconsistant cards can be. I use the Detonator drivers because STB has all but stopped supporting the Velocity 4400 I bought just a year ago (they joined with 3DFX since...big surprise...) and STB hasn't updated their drivers in about 10 months. I couldn't even get the new Detonator 3.53 drivers to load! The NVidia web site says you can install the updates over older Detonator drivers without removing the old ones, "If you are already using NVIDIA drivers and have the NVIDIA Control Freak software installed, you do not need to uninstall before upgrading" but when I tried it, it said it couldn't find a compatible chip, rebooted my system and left me with a really screwy setup! I had to reinstall 2.08 and now it works great. I understand why Nvidia doesn't offer tech support, but even a ReadMe file would be nice! The 3.53 comes as an EXE with NO information on what to do with it...and I'm usually not one to just start a program with no idea as to what is going to happen. Anyone else have problems like this?