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[News] U.S. Soldiers' Suicide Rate Is Up in Iraq

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by SlayerDragon, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. SlayerDragon

    SlayerDragon LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES

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    This is an interesting article, although repetetive in a few places.


    Source
     
  2. Gamma_Sword

    Gamma_Sword Terrible, Terrible Damage!

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    You can see now why many veterans are strongly against the war in the first place... just ask anyone who survived hellish Vietnam War...
     
  3. ^DaRk^AgentOrange|PuF

    ^DaRk^AgentOrange|PuF Banned

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    Sending social workers to Iraq! Bwahaha :lol:
     
  4. SlayerDragon

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    War is hell. I don't think any non-ignorant person would tell you otherwise.
    I think maybe a lot of people going into the military don't take into account that you have a chance of seeing some action - and that's nothing like the movies (except maybe the beach scene of Saving Private Ryan, but it's still just a movie). It's a harsher reality than most people will ever know, including myself, but I wouldn't say suicide is a great choice in any situation.
     
  5. Saito

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    I was in the navy, I saw action.

    There is no worse moral dilema than realizing you are going to take a life.... but have to, to save yours and your friends. Allot of people die due to hesatation, you register that what you are about to do isn't right.... but you realize that if you don't not only you, but you friends here, and at home will suffer for it.

    suicide is a cop out, I have seen people die, and I have been part of the missiles that did it, its not easy, and no it doesn't get easier with time. and sadly at the end the "was us or them" arguement gives you no comfort. Especialy when sent to a war or fight you didn't agree with.

    What some of you don't understand is that these wars happen, you aren't hurting the politicians, but the soldiers that come home and hear how people hate the things they did, that they had to do.

    Thats why I take these threads kinda personaly, I have been there, I have done it, I have friends that are dead. Some of you need to think about that. The world is harsh, and bad things happen daily, ironicaly they can only be cured by more bad things. For all the "I know it all" I have seen here I have yet to see this

    "I have taken lives that I didn't want to, I have taken lives to save lives, I have lost friends that can't be replaced"

    I can say thaT

    You said

    "War is hell."

    No ****ing ****, even if you live through it some things never heal. I beg of you all, before you go flaming here and on any thread, bear in mind, some people here are vets, some people here probably served with a person who died. Allot of you blantantly dont support the war, thats fine, but bear in mind allot of your comments dont support the soldier that is there. Flaming people is fine... but realize that some people here, and there are in ****ing hell, you may not feel you owe them anything. But I can say for sure, that a "welcome home" sounds better than a "this war was wrong you are evil" anyday.
     
  6. SlayerDragon

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    Hey man, I hope you realize I wasn't saying anything bad about the war. I was just replying to Gamma_Sword about the Vietnam thing. War is hell. Not this war, or that war. They are all hell. I don't know this from experience, but I know it from the experience of others'. Thank you for doing your service for our country, and just so you know, I for one won't be saying any harsh words to any soldiers. I didn't go into the service only because of my eyesight and I wouldn't have been able to do any of the things that I wanted to do (although I realize now I could have done some other, sometimes even much cooler, things). Part of me is glad I didn't, though. I've had a lot of good experiences at college that I would have missed if I had been shipped off.
     
  7. MetalMickey

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    Iraq is not Vietnam. The soldiers are there because they volunteered for an institution whos primary purpose is to travel to foreign climes and kill people.

    Oftentimes it is not as black and white as that, there are mitigating social and economic factors, but for many people that is the bottom line.
     
  8. novak

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    Lets not turn this into an another war is wrong/war is right -thread.

    The fact of the matter is that soldiers are fighting and dying in Iraq and not one of us can really even begin to imagine what they have to go through on daily basis. All we can do is try is hope they make it safely back home and try to help them overcome the horrible things they've experienced.

    :rolleyes:

    I'd like to see how you would react if you were in the same situation as the soldiers in Iraq.
     
  9. Doc_EDo

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    Dont forget the brain wash and lies factors.

    Saito, i think you should be angy on those that send you into a war not those that realise it was an oil grab war for rich boys. We know soldiers follow orders of politicians, so noone thinks you are to blame even thogh you are a killing mashine. It's not like you had a choice.

    Criticism of a war is good so soldiers dont need to fight unjust wars and feel bad about it. You should join in on the criticism.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
  11. novak

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    Welcome to the wonderful world of emoticons. I sincerely hope you enjoy your stay.

    ..

    Do you even have a point?
     
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    Yeah, i thought it was funny that they were sending social workers to Iraq.

    That's all.
     
  13. novak

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    :rolleyes:

    How funny am I! :D
     
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  15. Witty

    Witty I hear only yes.

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    C'mon, c'mon, people! Let's be nice... there's no reason at all to hate the servicemen, even if you don't agree with the leadership's decisions. Personally, I support the war and the cause, and I have my own opinions about what the war is for (which I will not post here because I'd get flamed... ), but you gotta keep the two parties seperate... the guy's who were there fighting should be respected, and their ideas should be taken more seriously, because they experienced it. Lets all remember Phil's post, where we usher in a new era of peace for BuF. :)
     
  16. novak

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    :fluffle:
     
  17. ApostleX3000

    ApostleX3000 unit 3000-21 is warming

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    I saw some action in the Civil War, and after watching our drummer boy take a cannonball in the face all I could think was....man...war is hell. But I took my duty like a man and instead of having thoughts of bayoneting myself in the gut, I stood up, aimed across that field, and shot the rebel flute player right in his dixie sized sack.
     
  18. MetalMickey

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    Hah! I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
     
  19. novak

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    That goes for me too.. good one. :lol: :tup:
     
  20. Zarkazm

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    Kinda amusing. :tup:
     

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