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Capture The Elian will be introduced in version 3.0, thanks to the tremendous efforts of our own Ben Szlyk! Here is a screenshot from the beta map CTE-MiamiBeachBungalow:

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thanks to the original author of the one with Janet Reno for inspiring me. you da man! we'll be sure to put you in the credits for 3.0!

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Waxx

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Is anyone in this country proud of what they did? I'm not. I can't wait until the Clinton administration is over! Long live George W. Bush! Washington or bust!

Colonel Sanders' reply to, "why did the chicken cross the road". "I missed one?"
 
Kibbles-N-Bits

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If there wasnt the problem of nuclear winter... I'd say we vaporize that goddamn island... stupid spoiled Elian brat! HE LIVED IS DISNEY FOR GODSAKES!!! HE HAD MORE ****** TOYS THAN HALF THE WORLDS POPULATION PUT TOGETHER!!!!

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DeadeyeDan[ToA]

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I was just plain shocked that they could do that and get away with it... people arguing with me about it insist it was the right thing to do because the family was commiting a crime... but that point is moot, because they weren't even there to serve a warrant. If they had gotten a warrant (assuming they could have gotten one), and took the child after arresting the uncle or whoever was in charge, that would be different. Different, but still pretty sucky- the INS should have had no part in it, Elian is a refugee and is immune to claims by the Cuban government- the only matter that remains is custody, and local authorities handle custody battles, not the US Department Of Justice.

"Hey look, your kidnapping this kid, so give him to us or we're gonna bust in and take him!"

"Do you have a warrant for my arrest for kidnapping?"

"Umm... well uh, Janet Reno..."

"Janet Reno, shmanet feno! Show me some paperwork before you bust in or expect to get yourself shot."

If only they had said that...

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Shook all tha world bankers, who think they can rhyme,
Shot the landlords, who knew it was mine,
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CoffeyCan

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Warrant: They had a Warrant.

Use of Force: Lazaro Gonazalez said that he would use force to keep the boy from being taken. Put yourself in the law enfrocement officers shoes, if someone says that they are going to use force to keep you from doing your job, should you not take measures to ensure self and others protection? LE will always get the short end of the stick in the public eye in these situations.

The big Screw up: Honestly, having that AP photographer in the house, but since thats over, pointing the weapons anywhere near the boy, there was no need to do that.

My bottom line: I have NO sympathy for the Gonzalez family. They defied US law when it wouldnt work in their favor. They had no intentions of letting the father see the boy. They and the larger Cuban ex-patriate community PIMPED a little boy as a political symbol against Castro. The only person that I feel sorry for is the kid, thats it.

About the Clinton Admin piss and moan: The republicans strongly support the use of force in many situations, making them hypocrites for complaining about the tactics used to secure the boy, if the Attorney General would have been a republican there would have been little to no oppsition by republicans. But guess who would have opposed it? Yes the Democrats, they would have touted the 'save the children line'. Same thing with Waco and Ruby Ridge, the Demos would have led the charge to accuse the Repbulicans - this is what our country has come to - partisan politics, dont be fooled by one political idealogy, there would be no difference in the reaction by either party.

Sometimes I think that people forget that we are a country built on laws, that have to be followed and obviously enforced. Our comfort with personal freedom has grown to the extreme, where I think at time the good of the whole is sacrificed for the benefit of one, and where the sacrifice given by others for our freedom has been largely forgotten.
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I_ABuGa

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I think that it was a family matter. the Cuban and US government shouldnt have gotten involved that way. They should have provided an environment more condusive to talk between the families. I personally believe that the boy belongs with his father unless there are any real reasons why he shouldnt such as child abuse.

By the way, does anybody know the circumstances of Elian and his mother being on that boat? Why did the mother and not the father want to bring elian to America when he could have stayed back? For a better life?

I really pity and yet not pity Elian - he has been lavished with too much attention. I find that all this politicking fairly disgusting. Elian is an illegal immigrant and has been found to be so, deport him or else give him the opportunity to live a normal life. If the latter is chosen, then the US ought prepare to recieve huge waves of illegal immigrants. In this I agree with CoffeyCan, there are laws even in the land of the free. The laws are there to ensure that freedom that is not tainted by anarchy

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Bush is an idiot (But I'm from canada, so it don't matter)

(Talking in heavy "Native American" accent)

"bah, you white folks with all yer anti-immigration laws and such, yer lucky we didn't kick you out when we had the chance."

Though, in all seriousness, Castro is using the boy the same way the Gonzales family was using him. so neither side is right.

now let's stop talking politics.
 
DeadeyeDan[ToA]

DeadeyeDan[ToA]

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Hmmm, the warrant had Elian's name, I was talking about the great uncle... Was that just all that BS about being picked up by fishermen instead of making it to shore? If so I think that is incredibly stupid, it shouldn't just be making it to land, you can't say that American water isn't still America.

Abuga, Elian's father and mother were divorced (the mother got custody), and his mother fled the country for the same reasons all the other Cuban refugees do, freedom and a better life. His father is a member of the communist party, so he was probably alot better off than the people who wanted to flee (yet still found it necessary to rant about how mad he is at them and how he wants to go over there and break their necks).

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Shot four puppet governors in a line,
Shook all tha world bankers, who think they can rhyme,
Shot the landlords, who knew it was mine,
Yes, its a war from the depth of time!
 
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