Mutator Request

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shan

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Not sure if this is possible, but I would like to have a mutator that would allow people to vote for weapon configurations like they can for maps, etc.

For example, I want to set up the following configurations using WeaponSetup2:
  • Pistols Only
  • No Scope
  • No Sniper Rifles

Then I would like players to be able to vote for the config. Everything else would stay the same...map list, camos, etc. The only thing that would change is the WeaponSetup Config.

Is this a possibility?

Shan
 

shan

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A really cool way to implement this would be to allow a server admin to set up an INI similar to what is used with Gameswitcher that that we could create special mutator configurations that could be used. This would allow me to set up options like: DTAS, No Community Weapons, Monster Mash, No Scopes, Sniper Duel, etc. This would simply rock!
 

Beppo

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This should be doable by using a mutator that works 'together' with the GameSwitcher or WeaponSetup2 mutators... or, is integrated in these two.
You 'only' need a way to let players vote and see the current setup and the available 'rest'. But you need some rules too... should the players be able to vote on a combination, a whole setup? Or should they be able to vote on parts, means this or that mutator added or removed from the list?
No matter how you want it to work... it would need a bit of coding.
 

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Beppo said:
This should be doable by using a mutator that works 'together' with the GameSwitcher or WeaponSetup2 mutators... or, is integrated in these two.
You 'only' need a way to let players vote and see the current setup and the available 'rest'. But you need some rules too... should the players be able to vote on a combination, a whole setup? Or should they be able to vote on parts, means this or that mutator added or removed from the list?
No matter how you want it to work... it would need a bit of coding.

aye, what if we want DTAS and no community weapons?
 

shan

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My thought on this would be that the admins could create some canned configurations for players to vote on....so there would not have to be any combination votes. Here was my current list of ideas, for an example:

  • DTAS
  • TDM
  • EAS
  • TDM - Pistols Only
  • EAS - No Scopes
  • DTAS - No Scopes
  • Monster Mash
  • TDM Sniper Duel

Basically, the choices would be managed by the Server Admins. They would be configured using, as Beppo said, a combination of GameSwitcher and WeaponSetup2. I would also be nice if the mutator automatically dsiplayed the current mode in the F3 (?) window.
 

Beppo

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Well you have a slight problem here...
The mutators WeaponSetup and GameSwitcher do use their own 'command line' per map. Means every map can have a different setup of which gametype and what mutators are loaded.
If you now want to present some base setups that the players can vote on then you can do this per map too but this would get pretty ugly in the end. And as I understand it, you want to let players vote between these settings on a general basis, and not map specific. But, non-map-specific doesn't make much sense sometimes and a needed vote would only detract from the game cause the round would need a restart aso.

So, you can do two versions:

a) like GameSwitcher aso... ini describes the possible basic 'rules' including gametype and mutators... a full commandline so to speak that the players can then vote for in-game.

b) same as a) but per map.

Tech:
The new mutator would work exactly like the others do. Using a commandline and restarting the map with the new voted for setup.
Voting can be done in a bunch of ways... this depends on the developer.
 

shan

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My initial thought was that there would be no limitation on the maps. I was thinking that, after the vote was done and the server reset, they could then vote any maps they want as that configuration would stay on the server until someone voted something different. You are right that a map specific set-up would be an administration nightmare.