Monsterhunt mayhem: The good, the bad and the ugly

[NeoNite]

Edit: 18/2/5: By request Hal changed the main title of this thread to:
"Monsterhunt mayhem: The good, the bad and the ugly"

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Edit: 29/1/5 (january for you americanos): Changed the thread's "title": "monsterhunt mayhem: mh-godzreturn or how much worse can it get", to "monsterhunt mayhem: the good, the bad and the ugly!

(the fugly too)

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Do you think you've seen it all? Do you think you've seen the crappiest map ever? Do you think you're safe? Do you really?

Well, beware those who want to try monsterhunt online. Because like I've stated before THE MOD ONLINE IS RUINED BY TONS OF **** MAPS.

Be it alpha, beta, lazy, rushed-rushed-rushed maps whatnot. People who simply have NO idea what gameplay is all about.

I don't care if said people are 11-13 (whatever) years old. I've seen young people make nice to great maps. It can be done, only if you're PATIENT and don't put your obvious CRAP online.

Why am I being so harsh you say?

I'll show you why: This THING can be found on most monsterhunt servers nowadays. It's horrible. Just plain horrible.
Would I compare this to any of the "the great escape" maps, which I highly recommend btw, then it simply would stand a snowball chance in hell !!!!!

Where's the gameplay in this THING? Somebody please tell me what kind of gameplay this monstrosity has????

Retarded maybe?

(This thing will soon be deleted. I won't even think of actually "playing it". Although I gave it a short "try", I just couldn't carry on because to enjoy this monstrosity you need to put your brainpower level to ZERO. No can do. I want INTELLIGENT maps. Map which require STRATEGY. Maps which have PLANNING. GAMEPLAY. ARG :-/ )

Btw this thing is +6mb in filesize...

The three attached screens should give you a general impression of the THING. But believe me, it gets worse.

It wouldn't be so bad had this been one of the "few" crap maps. But there are too many of these THINGS floating around. Such a shame...

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The best maps for monsterhunt are "the great escape" maps. I've said it before I know, but they're simply great. Gameplay, gameplay and gameplay all over.

 

[Rob]

To be honest, there's worse.

 

[NeoNite]

Lol .. yeah... thing is, you're right though.
I just had to vent a little
Rants/raves...

Edit 08/03/2005 (8th of march)

I'll add the list to this post, it's not that convenient doing so to the initial post.

*Thanks (so far) to Cardiologist, 3, Nutella, [uks]Rjgexplode for helping out.

Names in bold: Maps which are part of the mod.

More later. I'll seperate the ****ty maps from the decent ones :O)

8/3/2005: So far there should be "200" maps listed. There are several versions of certain maps, though.

Monsterhunt map list.
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afo
afo2
afo3
afo4
ages(v2)
akemi
akemi_chan
akemi_vs_tomoko
alarm_fix3
alarm_lb
arden
assasination
ataa0
ataa2
ataa5c
barrier
baseriot
birdbrains
bluff eversmoking ???????
brutality
brute
canals
canyon
city(v3)
cleaning (?)
cleaningUTJfix
cliffs
cliffs2
closeencounter][
cryptic2
crystalreactor
curry_rise_v2
d1
d2
d3
d3kai
d4
d4kai
d5
d5kai
darkest_hour
darkpass
deep
deephallways
demons][
doom][courtyard
e'dara passage
Ealhandra (conversion from SP mappack)
extremedgen (?)
face
facility
firstencounter(v110)
forbidden
frigate
fromdusktilldawn
fuusenballoon
gekokujou
giantboss1
giantboss2
glascoop
godz
godzreturn
godzreturn+
greatcastle
hallsofdeath
haunted+
hebereke
hebereke_force
hebereke_gaiden_v3
hebereke2_kai
hidden_passage
hispeed
hostilefactory
Hunt_In_Dungeon3Kai.unr
Hunt_In_Dungeon4Kai.unr
Hunt_In_Dungeon5_Final_BossKai
illusion
Illustrious]|[
indiana_jones
infestedv16
kamikaze
kamikaze2
kimo
kittara
krallfortress110
krogaar
last][
lava
lavacaves
liandriconflictv2(bots)
liandriInvasion (monsters)
lonely
longcorridor
longcorridorB
maggotlair
mayanfury
mazon
miam
mines
monsters_of_spam
monstermash
nalivillage][
nara_beta
nazover2
necronomicon
nekonekohouse
neo-sushi
nightmarehouse
nightsushi (?)
nyleve ??????
oldthings
omni-[rage]
orticanMH
overlord
panic
password
planeshifter
pupae
ragearena2
reloaded
reality
revenge][
rocktunnel
ruins-bridge-v122
sake
sake_fix
sake_fix2
sake_fix3 (sake_yotoromake)
sayuri
sayuri_vs_hebereke
scdeck1
shootingguys
sinister
shakrah
shakrahV3 (converted by our friend "Mr_x" teh smacktard)
skaarjcastle (unfortunatly. SP mappack conversion)
skaarjHQ
skaarjHQ(v11O)
skaarjtower( unfortunately. SP mappack conversion)
skyland1
skyland2-v106
skyland3
skywars_fix_ver1
slime
slithhunt
starshiptroopers
steelhell
strangearea
sunspire ???????
super_tomokov2
temple
templeXL
tges1
tges1old
tges[1-2]_{Cygma-N}Reinterpretation
tges2
tges2old
tges2part5(Maboroshi)
tges3
tges3C
tges3old
tges4
tges5
tges6
tges6-classic
theancients
thedenofwarlord
theelder (conversion from SP mappack)
thegauntlet
thegauntlettwo
thegauntlet3
thegauntletfour
thegauntlet5
thelongcorridor
theobserve
thepredators
tjbminiguns
tomoko
tomoko_vs_sayuri
tomoko_vs_SayuriV2
tomoko_vs_sayuriV3
tomoko2
totalblackout
treasure1
treasure2dxfixed
trials
underground
unreal
unwanted_(beta)
uza
vaka
vaka2
vaka3
warshipsupernova
Way_up_to_egypt
winter
whitepalace (?-> If so, Single player map conversion)
[goldengirl]Lostfactory
[stod]_{ua}the_last_creatures
{UA}Hunting_In_The_Dark.unr
{UA}Hydro16_Ver2.unr
{UA}In_Der_Disco!.unr
{UA}Jump_And_Kill.unr
{UA}Mazon_Fortress.unr
{UA}The_Predators.unr
{UA}Titan_City-The_GateKeepers.unr
(wm)-spawnkill

 

[AMMAGETSVM]

That first screenie, is that from that map with all the damn jumpy blocks everywhere?

That kinda stuff pretty much killed MH for me. So F'n tedious...

 

[NeoNite]

Yeah. But there are similar ones. For example those "thegauntlet" maps.
This one time I joined a server as a spectator.
Now, it was in a "the gauntlet" map, can't remember which one.
(I guess I just wanted a laugh.. a cynical one maybe)

But it got so bad. There was this FUGLY box room, with four thin brushes in the middle, and on top of that a deemer. To get to the deemer you had to jump on these ridiculously thin eh.. steps (?). If you'd miss, instant death. Whee so much fun Now I spectated this guy who tried a couple of times (but why) to get the deemer, only to get killed shortly after by some monster with ultra health and ultra projectiles (but why...).

Mh-Assasination starts the same way. To unlock the weapons, you have to cross these small steps and push a button at the end of the fugly box room.
If you miss a step it's instadeath. There's a pool of slime or lava beneath you.
Why bother playing maps like those?

Avoid them at all costs if you're looking for maps with actual gameplay.

 

[Rob]

Assasination is supposed to be mapped for Skillz' contest, which "will bring us better maps"... Well looks like in this case it's already a failure.

 

[NeoNite]

Well I'm not so sure about the start of the level.
It does have better parts though. For example when you fight the "stone brutes" (something like that). That was fun.
There was also an underwater fight with slith. The area did have sufficient scubagear and there wasn't an immediate chance of getting stuck/running out of ammo/looking like a fool/dying

It's not all bad in assasination.

 

[Heythere]

The only thing more vile then GODZ(WOO Z LUK @ M3 I 4M 50 K001 W00007 XBOX HAZ BUST GPHX PC SUX"!) was that obscure death trap map made by some obscure little Japanese dude. Fortunetly I don`t remember what it`s called, but if I say "Smashing pillars by slime o death by please do not push", I`m sure I`ll jolt your memory. And make you feel the urge to hurt and maim. Just don`t hurt and maim me...

Though if anyone makes you remember a Monster Hunt map you`ve forgotten, I think you SHOULD have the right to hurt and maim. I mean let`s face it, the guy who would remind you woulda HAD to have seen it coming... *ducks*

 

[NeoNite]

Doesn't ring a bell.
When it comes to japanese monsterhunt maps I've played .. the main ones I can think of are "the great escape" and the assault conversions.
Boomboy knows what gameplay is. (though the assault conversions can't beat tges...not by a longshot)

 

[DaBeowulf]

I played MonsterHunt with the DarkMagic0.91 mutator on the original maps
online with two ppl that play ThieveryUT as well on Saturday. (I checked the advertise server box but it didn't work for some reason) We had heaps of fun.

 

[Heythere]

OH, THIEVERY! YOU ****!

Never could find a Thievery server

 

[jackie]

Please Rob!

I concur that there are some horrible maps out there. I would like to start a monster hunt map myself but lack the time. So I think we should all vote that Rob make us another map for Monster Hunt! Please Rob I'm behind you 100%.

If I could get more bandwidth for you guys I would! Enjoy the server. I will try to clean up the lagg this month, need a clean install of server only version. Has anyone seen a performance increase from 4.51 to 4.36?

N-

 

[Heythere]

ROB-IE!! ROB-IE!! ROB-IE!!

Go Robby! Go Robby! It`s your birthday, we love you! Go Robby! Go Robby!







*Didn`t know Rob offered to make a map. Eitherway let`s all force him to!*

 

[Rob]

Aaaargh.... One day maybe ?

 

[Heythere]

One day SOON, right?

 

[NeoNite]

Rob doesn't have to make a map. Real life can be too demanding, that's perfectly understandable.

As far as I'm concerned, monsterhunt online is fubar for me.
I've just taken a look at the servers again, what do I see..

10 servers running...
godzbeta,godzreturn,afomap...
Ages isn't really bad, but not really interesting either. Same goes for assasination.

one server running a "the great escape" map.

There are just too few good maps :-/


I'm glad I can always return to co-op.
Fewer servers sure, but no bad maps.

I've even recently had the chance to play Xidia again online!!!! It's been ages :O)
(june last year). It was fun. We played it on the highest skill. And whew it was hard!
Those pretorian skaarj are very challenging. Not to mention the skaarjtroopers...

Heck, I even have a co-op mod which beats monsterhunt. Just be sure you can handle the pressure of constant enemy combat. It's kinda like invasion I think, but the waves of monsters NEVER stop.

 

[DaBeowulf]

Why not name the sucker? I assume DefenceAlliance

 

[NeoNite]

Nah, it's Unreal arcade. I've already mentioned it a couple of times, but here's the link again (japanese site).
http://ut-lity.cool.ne.jp/

It's in the ut-lity section. Main things you'll need are the core, coresys and 414 patch.
If you want to start a co-op game with unreal arcade, you'll have to select the mutators through the oldskool sp mutators menu.
And afterwards simply start a game. It defaults to hard skill. (or unreal)

 

[NeoNite]

Well I've played a good map today...
I've downloaded it from zp|clan server. It's called winterblast.
I was kind off curious ...
You start inside a house, in the mountains. It's snowing outside (it might lag for you I'm not sure)....and there are a ****load of monsters.
Meaning: there are various spots in the map where monsters will spawn. Some will last longer than others...
It'll keep you busy! That's for sure.

But it's really not that hard. I mean, this is the first time I played it. I set 20 lives (just in case), 90 minutes and on masterfull skill. I managed to survive the game
But alas, ran out of time :O)

I'm keeping this map, I like it.

 

[Heythere]

Ok, I`ve downloaded Xidia, but I don`t see any servers online... :s

*sniff*