Midget Tournament 3.

[JohnDoe641]

I decided to play UT3 the other day just to see how I'd do after not playing since the first days of November. What confused me when I first started the offline match was that my character was stuck crouching. So I press "c" and I thought that I had ghost enabled because I was sinking into the floor. I didn't have anything typed in so it hit me, UT3's scaling is awful.

From the over-sized weapons pickups to the over-sized ammo pickups (I really like how the sniper bullets are double the size of the sniper barrel) everything feels really badly scaled. I've been playing nothing but Killing Floor these past few months and Killing Floor must have perfect scaling because I feel like the environment matches the player eye height and model scale 1:1. In UT3 it feels like you're firing from either your knee caps or shins (I have weapons hidden so with it showing it might be slightly different) but the weapons fire is so low to the ground, it just didn't feel right.

If I didn't do behindview, I could swear that I was laying chest down on a skateboard and moving around the map that way, no way was I standing up.... nope.

A while ago, I asked someone to make a mutator to increase the player eye height and model height. The mutator has a bug, so if you crouch you lose the added height until the next round, but it's a good way to compare how bad the stock UT3 eye height is.

Give this mutator a try, I think it fixes 70% of the scaling problems I have with UT3 and it's much better than playing midgetmen 3. Also, if anyone wants to work on the mutator and fix the crouch bug, please do so. I really want to play this normally without reverting to midgets.

SizeMatters02

class mutator_SizeMatters extends UTMutator;


function InitMutator(string Options, out string ErrorMessage)
{
	Super.InitMutator(Options, ErrorMessage);
}

function ModifyPlayer(Pawn Gamer)
{
	local UTPawn PlayerPawn;
	PlayerPawn = UTPawn(Gamer);

	if (PlayerPawn!= None)
	{
		PlayerPawn.SetDrawscale(1.25 * PlayerPawn.Default.DrawScale);
		PlayerPawn.SetCollisionSize((22 * 1.25),(44 * 1.25));
		PlayerPawn.HeadRadius = (9 *1.25);
		PlayerPawn.HeadHeight =(5 * 1.25);
		PlayerPawn.HeadScale =(1 * 1.25);
		//Scale headoffset down with BaseEyeHeight?
		PlayerPawn.BaseEyeheight =(0.8 * 44);
		PlayerPawn.HeadOffset = (0.8 * 32); 
		
	
	}
	super.ModifyPlayer(Gamer);
}

DefaultProperties
{
}

So far it seems there's a seperate collision box for the head. I just assumed the BaseEyeheight and HeadOffset would effect each other so I multiplied headoffset by 0.8

Feels about right, but I'd need a second opinion on that.

PS. If you increase the values enough you can get headshots by shooting people in the foot...

 

[GreatEmerald]

From the over-sized weapons pickups to the over-sized ammo pickups (I really like how the sniper bullets are double the size of the sniper barrel) everything feels really badly scaled.

Clearly you haven't tried UT2003

 

[JohnDoe641]

No, I never played 2k3.

 

[Leo(T.C.K.)]

MAKE THE AMMO EVEN MORE BIGGER, LIKE TEN FEET TALL OR MORE!!!
THAT WILL BE EPIC!

 

[Raynor.Z]

No, make WEAPONS bigger!

[SCREENSHOT]http://i51.tinypic.com/idu0p0.jpg[/SCREENSHOT]

 

[Northrawn]

No, make WEAPONS bigger!

[SCREENSHOT]http://i51.tinypic.com/idu0p0.jpg[/SCREENSHOT]

In this screen you can clearly see that EPIC had learned from UT2003 and 04 and increased brightness and saturation of the teamcolors.


BTW: In the beginning the PulseGun projectiles came from above the head. Was that fixed in a patch?

 

[Hideinlight]

Here's a slightly less buggy version of SizeMatters:
The crouch reset is fixed at least, removed some stuff that caused problems and made it configurable via the ini.
The only notable bug I'm aware of is that you crouch in the air when the values are set too high (125+).
http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?p=27892425#post27892425

 

[TurdDrive]

My character model goes huge when I use this.

 

[Hideinlight]

My character model goes huge when I use this.

Define huge, the default should only be a 10% size increase.

 

[AWW SNACK]

After playing UT2k3/4 anything seems well-proportioned. Deck 17 feels like you're playing in a Rats version of U1/UT99's Deck 16.

 

[JohnDoe641]

Here's a slightly less buggy version of SizeMatters:
The crouch reset is fixed at least, removed some stuff that caused problems and made it configurable via the ini.
The only notable bug I'm aware of is that you crouch in the air when the values are set too high (125+).
http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?p=27892425#post27892425

Very nice.

I'll have to give this a try over the weekend. :tup:

 

[Bi()ha2arD]

This is already in the game. It's called the titan mutator. You press a key, then you get huge. You can even press it again to become even bigger!1!!1

 

[Hideinlight]

This is already in the game. It's called the titan mutator. You press a key, then you get huge. You can even press it again to become even bigger!1!!1

That is for becoming a giant and looking down upon your enemies. Mine is for becoming normal sized so you can stand upright and look at your enemies in the eyes.

 

[Bi()ha2arD]

I was being sarcastic. The titan mutator is the worst thing that could happen to ut3.

 

[GreatEmerald]

I was being sarcastic. The titan mutator is the worst thing that could happen to ut3.

[SARCASM]Clearly you use too many sarcasm tags.[/SARCASM]

 

[Gambit84]

This is already in the game. It's called the titan mutator. You press a key, then you get huge. You can even press it again to become even bigger!1!!1

**** YEAH!
Can I take this with alcohol?

 

[KillerSkaarj]

I really like how the sniper bullets are double the size of the sniper barrel

In UT3 it feels like you're firing from either your knee caps or shins (I have weapons hidden so with it showing it might be slightly different) but the weapons fire is so low to the ground, it just didn't feel right.

If I didn't do behindview, I could swear that I was laying chest down on a skateboard and moving around the map that way, no way was I standing up.... nope.

Oh, god, haha, it really must have been a while since you've played Unreal. This happened in every Unreal game since the first. Especially the rifle ammo bit. Well actually the rifle bit didn't happen in UT1... but still.