Merry Christmas from the Hortons

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$n][pErMan

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cheers to that! :) Lets have some fun and race tonight... I should be able to make it! ;)
 

JACK SH!T

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YEZ, yez, back at all of you, and Happy Hannukah to my Jewish friends too ;)
May all of you and your loved ones have everlasting love and joy, and a great new year
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$n][pErMan

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ProjectX said:
I'm an atheist so I guess I'm not supposed to wish people Merry Christmas

Bah humbug and all that! :)
Im Athiest too.... but even so.. it gets me some time off class and work so im still happy ;) :D Plus I hate all of the political correctness in todays world... so anything to support one belief over another in public to piss others off I am all for.... hehehe :) Merry X-Mas everyone and god bless America!!!
 
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JACK SH!T

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ProjectX said:
I'm an atheist so I guess I'm not supposed to wish people Merry Christmas

Bah humbug and all that! :)
...does this mean you/we can't wish merry x-mas to those that do belive???? I don't really care what the next person belives, as long as you beleive in yourself, I beleive in you.......how in the hell do you spell belive?????:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm Agnostic
 

ProjectX

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Right behind you.
$n][pErMan said:
Plus I hate all of the political correctness in todays world... so anything to support one belief over another in public to piss others off I am all for.... hehehe :)

Amen to that! lol

God Bless Antarctica!
 

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When I was 6 0r 7, like most children, I found out there was no Santa. That one event ruined Christmas for me. It was to me dishonest to build up a childs dream, only to destroy it. What fantasy can compare with Santa for a child?
I was a child who was taken most every Sunday to church, but who never seemed to see in practice what I heard. My father was placed in an rphanage as a newborn, and he recieved so little care and attention that the back of his head was literally flat. Research has shown that infants who do not bond with a parent or other adult during that crucial period of time often never bond well with others during their lifetime. My mother was a child brought up with a very abbusive alcholholic father who beat her and her sisters regularly. To add to her pain as a child, her mother had an affair with the town judge. When the affair was discovered, my mother and her sisters were removed
from their home and sent to an orphanage. Some of the sisters were adopted, the rest stayed at the orphanage. She was never shown love, no suprise she didn't know how to show love herself. Also no surprise the churches teaching of a heavenly father who loved her appealed a great deal to her.
I did little to add to the joy of parenting to my Mom and Dad. The middle child of 6, I was stuborn and a slow learner. Every year my report card said, "Steven is capable of much better work". I took second grade twice, and had to take summer school after my forth grade, or would have taken the forth grade twice as well. I was in enough trouble from various misbehaviors that my father said one more, and he would send me to military school. ( He was a sailor.)
The summer after my failer forth grade we moved to Iowa and dad moved to Virginia. That move changed me completely. I became very timid, and did much better in school.
Don't get the idea I didn't like my childhood, because I did. My teenage years were a different story. Being extremely shy as a teenager is an invitation for ridiclue.
There was something I disliked a great deal from as far back as I can remember; going to church. The older I got the more I disliked it. My brother and I , when we had to go alone, would hide out until the service was over, walk in the back door and then out the front door to be picked up. God was not important to me, and in my opinion, church people were just playing a game.
I think it should be obvious, but just to make sure you follow, Christmas was nothing to me.
I left home the summer after my junior year after a fight with Mom;
she said, "appoligise, or don't come back home". Simple choice to me.
The first Christmas after I got married my oldest sister gave me a modern language Bible. Flipping through it I happened to catch the phrase, "If you read the Bible with an open mind, you will know whether it is true or not". That phrase kind of knocked around in my head for the next few months, until I decided to accept that challenge.
Almost as soon as I began reading, I started coming up with arguments against what I was reading. I don't really know how to put this part into meaningfull words. In the simplest terms, it was like God himself followed me around. This lasted for six months! Every movie I saw it was like God showed how that movie undercut His existance. Every argument I came up with was one by one shown to be false. If anyone knows anything about me, they know I don't give up easy. Other people call me stuborn; I say I am persistant:p
The final argument went back to a statement I had heard in church all my life; " If you want God to accept you, you must give everything to God." I found this was totally false! In order for God to have me, He gave everything up for me. I know this sounds like a thin distinction, but for me it changed the way I saw God. In the only way I understood, I agreed with God. People describe this a million different ways, I will only describe it as stopping my running from God.
So, the way this story is supposed to go, I lived happily ever after. I wish!
About four years after this I contracted a blood disease that has made almost every day since then worse than any day before. That was twenty-five years ago. My mother died the week my first son was born. Alot of my life
has been a struggle, just like yours. The difference is, those quaint, empty sounding phrases I heard and resented all those years have actually come true for me and my wife. I now enjoy Christmas, because I understand Christmas:)
 

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Here is my outlook on Christmas:
I grew up in a home where my parents always made Christmas
a very family oriented and awesome holiday. Yeah, there were
presents but it wasn't just those presents that made it so wonderful.
Maybe it was the smell of a hugeeeeeee Christmas breakfast
after waking my parents up at 5 a.m. to see what Santa had left.
Considering the way my brother and I were it's a wonder
if he left anything at all :) After breakfast Dad took the
time to hang out and goof off with us and our new toys.
Growing up in that time, kids didn't get toys like they do
now. You got them mainly on holidays like Christmas or
your birthday and that was it. So we appreciated things more.
And I think that is a big issue today. Most kids are growing
up in a generation where they are not thankful.
Greed through commercialism and self centeredness
is what motivates most Christmas shoppers.
I work in an upscale retail store. I see how the people
are when they come in. For people who are suppose
to be thinking of what this holiday is all about,
they sure don't act like they know.
For those who don't believe in the story of Christmas
that is your right. But you know, you can still
find good in this holiday if you look. We always helped others
at Christmas time when we were kids. Mom made
sure of that. She'd bake things for the elderly in
the village and those who were sick. My brother
and I got to do the delivering.
You'd be surprised how when helping
others that you may be the one getting the biggest
reward.
Anyways, hope for those of you who are celebrating
that you have the Merriest Christmas.
Peace, love, and mistletoe to ya.
Hippie
 

stevenhorton

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hippietoad said:
So we appreciated things more.
And I think that is a big issue today. Most kids are growing
up in a generation where they are not thankful.
For those who don't believe in the story of Christmas
that is your right. But you know, you can still
find good in this holiday if you look. Hippie

We couldn't agree more!! ( My wife and I, in case you wonder:) )
 

JamesBong

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Every year my report card said, "Steven is capable of much better work".
you too huh?

there used to be a behavior type panel on the back of our report cards with various mischievious entries.... 'talks at proper time', 'gets along with others', etc. etc......mine was usually full of big red checkmarks and there was always a written in comment from teacher at the time. which, in turn, a parental unit would have to sign under before it was returned for next grading period red marks. my cards were quite colorful by the end of the year, every year. (as was my butt from being beat on)