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Lee Enfield No1 Mk3* .303cal

Discussion in 'Infiltration Development' started by Lethal Dosage, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. Lethal Dosage

    Lethal Dosage Serial Rapis...uh, Thread Killer

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    Just useless prattle, but is somebody doin a Lee Enfield rifle? Preferably a
    No1 Mk3* ? it wouuld be awesome! the .303cal steel jacketed round would be a 1 shot kill, but being bolt action n only 10 round magazine would keep it from being an uber gun. no1 would use it indoors or close quarter cus its bolt action and iron sights would keep it from being used really long ranges like a robar.

    I kno theres the robar, so imagine trading the scope for a magazine? i always wanted a bolt action rifle with iron sights, if u could remove the robar scope n put irons on it i would be just as happy!

    The No1 Mk3* Lee Enfield is a beautiful rifle, it must be a combination of the full wood furniture, the shape of the action & stock and the nosecap.

    I kno to most of u American INF players (n theres nothin wrong with that) that this wouldn't be such a crash hot idea, but i'm an Aussie n that rifle was in Australian service for over 50 years and 3 wars. So i love the thing, i can't model, skin, animate, code or nething so thats y i'm askin u guys.
     
  2. (SDS)benmcl

    (SDS)benmcl Why not visit us here in the real world.

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    I too Lethal Dosage would like to see such a rifle. Myself is slowly modelling, and I mean slowly, an ENFIELD No.4 MKIT SNIPER'S RIFLE CAL. .303 Brit to learn how to do it.

    And before anyone jumps up and down and asks me why I choose this the answer is simple: A) I llike it, B) I doubt anyone else is doing it C) a mod team member got me a ton of reference pics D) and since it won't be released anyways it doesn't really matter if I screw up.

    I hope someone who knows what they are doing follows your suggestion.
     
  3. Derelan

    Derelan Tracer Bullet

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    Doesn't the robar already have a 5 round magazine?
     
  4. Bushwack

    Bushwack Avenged Sevenfold...

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    This is exactly WHY people WOULD use it in CQB, its a one hit killer, thats why the ROBAR and PSG cant be hip fired anymore.

    Its great gun though, and a good suggestion. If the community had enough interest, maybe the Mod Team might one day create a "Vintage Weapon Pack" who knows ;)
     
  5. Lasersailor184

    Lasersailor184 The_Punisher

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    Might I suggest making the Scope an OPTION? It would rock to have it with and without a scope.
     
  6. sir_edmond

    sir_edmond In my own world

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    what happened to the bayonnet
     
  7. UN17

    UN17 Taijutsu Specialist

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    More one hit kill weapons! Joy!
     
  8. -=]N[=-ZeuS

    -=]N[=-ZeuS New Member

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    Hehe, you know I'm all for this idea because I used to be a robar hipper in 2.86

    Yes, a LOT of people would use it in close quarters just for kicks, that's what we do in INF, we take the gun least suited for a given situation just to get bigger bragging rights.
     
  9. Meplat

    Meplat Chock full-o-useless information

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    They werent steel. That is "Cupro Nickle" jacketing. Big diffrence. The No1MkIII was intended for the MkVI and the MkVII ball rounds, neither of which were steel jacketed. The "AP" stuff was made for the MG's, mainly Brownings.

    Yes, a No4MkI(T) would be the berries. Anyone needing pics needs to let me know. I seem to have a collection of Limey guns.
     
  10. Lethal Dosage

    Lethal Dosage Serial Rapis...uh, Thread Killer

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    Woh 8 posts after just 1 day? Sh!t wasn't expecting that sorta response!

    I didn't mention a bayonet cus i really dont kno how it would be coded or how u whould use it, unless u activate the attachment, then clicking fire would thrust the rifle forward to stab people. If some1 makes the No1 Mk3* with a bayonet attachment then could they please make it a Pattern 1907 sword bayonet, i kno its really long but i'll just look cool, n betta than the little knife bayonets that saw production later on.

    A Scope would be great but then people would use it as a replacement to the Robar, especially on maps like RTK.

    I'm pretty sure it was steel jacketed ammo cus i got a bag of bout 50 fired projectiles that i picked up in a army training area where there used to be a rifle range for the .303 rifles. But if i'm wrong then fine mayb i'm mistaken, i aint a ammo expert or nething.

    Does ne1 kno nething bout solid brass projectiles? Recently my grandfather left me 300 brass projectiles, some ammo reloading equipment, and his old No4 Mk1 Lee Enfield rifle that way made at Longbranch Arms Factory, Canada. Beats me how it got over here in Australia.
     
  11. Lethal Dosage

    Lethal Dosage Serial Rapis...uh, Thread Killer

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    Also just remembered the scopes that were mounted no the sniper variant (they were old British Pattern 1918 scopes by the way), had claw feet mounts, so they were detachable, although only recomended to be removed for cleaning purposes.

    The Sniper variants were called No1 Mk3* HT, the H desiginating a heavy target barrel and furniture and the T meaning a telescopic sight was installed.

    These sniper rifles were designed in the last couple of years of WW2 due to the lack of spare parts, and the barrels in the Pattern 14 Sniper rifles wearing out. They saw much use in Korea and Vietnam. Although the amunition in these rifles fired a high velocity ammunition with a Nictocellulose based propellant, i think that can b left out off INF for simplicities sake, the rifles worked just fine with ordinary MkVII ammo
     
  12. Meplat

    Meplat Chock full-o-useless information

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    Solid brass probably means lathe turned. This means VERY consistent. Handload with care.

    I have close to 4,000 rounds of various .303 service ammo. From MkV to MkVIIIZ. ALL are nonferrous jackets. the only ones having any steel are the AP rounds, the spotlight tracers, De Wilde (I/HE/T), and aircraft incendary rounds (All of which are VERY fun to shoot, and VERY hard to find.)

    The Long Branch No4Mk1*'s are for the most part VERY accurate. Slug the bore. Many were made with .308" diameter bores. This means the .312" slugs of the normal .303" round are swaged to a VERY close fit. Normally this is a VERY bad thing, except the Canuck made, and the Savage (U.S.) made rifles are exceptionally strong. (Not being bombed on a daily basis helps.) I have a Long Branch made No4Mk1 fitted with the Parker Hale match sights. It will give a star gauged M1903 a serious run for the money out to 1000 meters, after which I HAVE to use handloads.

    THIS is where slugging your bore, and measuring carefully comes in. IF , and ONLY IF you have a bore slugging .308" odd inches, you can then handload the .303 to use the Sierra MatchKings. This, is one of the finest mass produced projectiles made, and in the 220 grain FMJBTHP, you have sub MOA potential with careful (Read that. CAREFUL) handloading.

    It is a wonderful thing to take a "Old Limey rifle" and outshoot a modern Model 700 using iron sights. Now you want a really rare "Commonwealth" rifle in Infiltration? Ask for a Ross. (1905MkIII*** preferably, as I can provide one for piccies)
     
  13. Lethal Dosage

    Lethal Dosage Serial Rapis...uh, Thread Killer

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    I'm not too up to date on the Ross rifles, but i don't like the early ones with the bolt lugs that has a tendancy to burr n jam, n i neva liked the look of the Ross rifles, just ugly utilitarian things *uuurgh, shudder*

    Have u eva seen a late production, Australian Lithgow No1 Mk3* stocked in Australian Coachwood? Marvelous, beautiful, peices of work.

    I ain't baggin out Ross rifles, but i just prefer Ex-Military rifles that have the good looks, cus most rifles that saw good production worked just fine, just how many looked good while slaughtering the opposition? Cus thats what it comes down too, that n i own a 1945 production Lithgow No1 Mk3* in excellent condition, (with the coachwood), and seeing one in use in the field is just such a beautiful thing.

    But enough of my love affair with a rifle... back to business...
     
  14. Lethal Dosage

    Lethal Dosage Serial Rapis...uh, Thread Killer

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    What no1 interested???

    Jesus, i gotta get a life...

    Either that or must learn to model

    Who knows the best programs to model with? (Preferably freeware)
    How hard is it??

    Considering tryin my hand at this modelling stuff cus no1 is releasin ne new guns ne more, n i'm sick of waiting, especially for that M1 Garand, and that SPAS-12 that i think someone was doin, ohh n that stocko M14.


    Is there ne1 out there????????????? :(
     
  15. Lethal Dosage

    Lethal Dosage Serial Rapis...uh, Thread Killer

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    yeah soz i meant trading a scope for a larger magazine, however IF the Robar had no magazine is would help deter people from abusing it ingame.

    Reminds me of a friend who would camp in a room scoped in on a doorway n blow ne1 away as they came through, really shat me off.
     
  16. NavySupra

    NavySupra New Member

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    while we're at it, why not just put a sharpes .45-90 in there too :p with elivated iron sights... hehe
     
  17. Lethal Dosage

    Lethal Dosage Serial Rapis...uh, Thread Killer

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    lol jesus, the lee enfields aren't that out of date!

    However, what would be funny is if sum1 made a old muzzle-loading blackpowder musket for ingame, sure no1 would use it online, but for people like me whose net is too slow for online, people who r stuck playing offline with bots, it would b pretty fun,

    Long reloading times, a large white pume of smoke from the muzzle whenever u fire, n one shot kill, SOUNDS LIKE FUN! , n i mean that! I want 1, just for the hell of it! :lol:
     
  18. N'kEnNy

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    Actually I'd love to see the Lee Enfield rifle in game. Its true that unless done properly it would become a nearly overpowered weapon. But consider this. The Bolt action rifles were phased out for a reason. The high magazine capacity, not to mention rate of fire, of most modern rifles would severely outperform any Bolt-action rifle. (if deployed in the same role)

    Still, the Lee Enfield is an old workhorse, and it would be interesting (not to mention fun) to play with.
     
  19. Lasersailor184

    Lasersailor184 The_Punisher

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    They were phased out because you can get more bullets out of the new guns. The new guns aren't necessarily more accurate, more damaging or better. They just fire faster =) .
     
  20. Lethal Dosage

    Lethal Dosage Serial Rapis...uh, Thread Killer

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    Yeah well it would still be good to c one in INF, sum1 is doin a M1 Garand (lost track of who) n a .303 Lee Enfield would b great, back when i had 2.8 (a long while ago), i used to hip with the Robar as well

    Think about it, a bolt-action rifle, with 10 shot mag (which is more than enough for a bolt-action), 1 shot kill ( i kno alot of prople will b!tch bout it), with the option of a fixed magnifaction scope, n a bayonet (we need at least one weapon with it), would be great!

    Better yet a WW2 Weapon pack would be SWEET, u kno a Lee Enfield, that M1 Garand, a Nosin Nagant n a Mauser, would b even better. If i could model n skin, n get people to code n animate, i would b fully behind these cool weapons.

    From experience, does ne1 kno how hard it is to model? cus i might just get into it, what programs r easy to use? Has ne1 put out tutorials for certain progs?
     

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