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Islam's Prophet Mohammed + Cartoon

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by {GD}Odie3, Feb 4, 2006.

  1. {GD}Odie3

    {GD}Odie3 You Give Odie a Boner

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    You know, I have always told myself that the issue with Muslims was with a small core of extremis. However, with this silly cartoon thing I think it is closer to a majority of Muslims that are extreme.

    If a Cartoon is going to really upset The Prophet Mohammed he will take care of himself [ya right]. Setting the Danish Embassy ablaze [and along with the embassies of Chile and Sweden] is just the stupidest thing I ever heard of!
     
  2. Keganator

    Keganator White as Snow Moderator

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    Ya mean the one posted by crac?

    Yes, because every radical rioting group from a certain country represents every single person in that country. Remember those LA riots? I guess americans are nothing but poor blacks, out to steal things whenever they want. ;)
     
  3. {GD}Odie3

    {GD}Odie3 You Give Odie a Boner

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    Note: LA riots was just that - in LA. Seems every Muslim country has step up to some level of a riot [flag burning, calling for the death of someone, boycott of so and so, etc.]. Also, the LA riots where people of LA where as with this cartoon thing its the heads of states that are in the mix.

    It's a freaking cartoon, as if something in print is killing their way of life or freedom.

    BTW - Sorry to post a second thread - guess I missed it.
     
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  4. {GD}Odie3

    {GD}Odie3 You Give Odie a Boner

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    Oh, if I recall correctly the LA Riots was due to White Police Officers being left off the hook for beating the hell of a Black Man. While I do not agree with rioting that burns down your own city - at least they had a better reason than a cartoon.
     
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  5. AlmostAlive

    AlmostAlive Active Member

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    If you are a muslim, you will most likely be offended by what I have to say. If you are one of those idiots who believe it's your godgiven right to kill and burn anyone or anything that you don't like or approve of then you probably shouldn't read any further. Or maybe this is exactly what you should hear. Because, quite frankly, I've had it with fanatics who think they can do anything they like as long as "Allah" is screamed.

    Several months ago, a Danish newspaper called Jyllandsposten printed a drawing of Muhammed, according to muslim belief, Allah's profet numero uno. A Norwegian christian paper called Magazinet, a newspaper very few has ever heard of and even fewer has ever read, followed up And now all hell has broken loose. The muslim verson of hell, of course.

    Deaththreats, flagburning and demonstrations. Do muslims ever do anything else? Norwegian aid workers in several muslim countries have been sent home after having recieved numerous deaththreats and threats of kidnapping, just for being Norwegian. Other workers in muslim countries have gotten the same treatment. Muslim leaders in several countries have asked muslims worldwide to boycott Danish and Norwegian products. The Iranian prime minister have ordered full stop of all Norwegian build projects in their country. Militant muslims on the Gaza strip have several times searched hotels in their area, looking for Norwegians to kidnap and hold for ransom, just for being Norwegian. Muslim protesters have set fire to the Norwegian embassy in Syria. The Danish embassy have been burned to the ground.

    As usual, muslims seem unable to grasp the finer points of reality. Allow me to explain a few things. Even if a Norwegian paper prints a drawing you don't like, it doesn't neccesarily mean that our government, or every single Norwegian for that matter, actually approved of it before the paper printed it. If you lived in Norway 500 years ago you would probably burn down the house belonging to the man who insulted your wife. This, however, is 2006. If you want your views to be taken seriously by others, you might want to stop burning and killing things everytime you didn't get your cookie or someone said or did something you didn't like.

    In the spirit of muslim generalism, I'm going to send some letters containing deaththreats to a handful of random norwegian muslims after some muslim fanatic burned the Norwegian flag on TV the other day. I was deeply offended by that.

    I started writing this up before the other posts. Yes, I'm slow. I'm posting it as it was intended before the other posts came in. Feel free to feel offended.
     
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  6. Harrm

    Harrm I am watching porns.

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    Actually, we pretty much are. At least statistically most of our black population is. Just watch BET for an hour and you'll see what I mean.

    "Freedom of speech" basically means "freedom to talk trash" (yes it does so shut the **** up you ignorant slob because otherwise we would never have a law like that, mother****er) and that hasn't gone over so well in the Arab world. One should note that the Arab people are hella' older than the rest of us 'sophisticated peoples' (crackers) and as such they dont take kindly to insubordination. I mean, if some kid who lived across the street said your house was ugly, wouldn't you set fire to his home and slaughter his family?

    --Harrm

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    Blow themselves up so that we have something to watch on TV during dinner.
     
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  7. cracwhore

    cracwhore I'm a video game review site...

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    Odie3. You foolish man. Let me explain...

    Well, the problem isn't that they were offended by the content of the cartoon - as much as it is - the fact that the cartoon exists.

    See, muslims believe that man should never worship idols and imagery. They should never try to recreate what god hath provided on Earth. To do so would challange the 'one true god'. Even drawing a picture of god is forbidden. Regardless of context, it is forbidden.

    As a result, their places of worship contain no such images to worship or associate with their diety. 'God' should never become an image (which has happened with Christianity).

    If they printed a cartoon with Mohammed being praised, you would have the same reaction. It is strictly forbidden.

    If you compare Muslim mosques to Christian cathedrals - you will notice a large difference. The Christian places of worship are covered with religious images and man-made representations of god. That's all it has turned in to. An image. And as if it weren't obvious by now - check out your cable stations. See any Arabic Prayer / Collection channels?

    Mosques are created to resemble the house of Mohammed. This is because the first mosque was the home of Mohammed. They are simple in decoration (not to say that they aren't beautiful works of architecture) and present an illusion of the 'infinite' in the courtyard by way of design. Decorations are mostly created by alternating brick colors, alternating arch styles or calligraphy. Never will you find religious imagery, especially not of the prophet.

    In sum - it's not frowned upon. It's outright against everything they believe in. So now, hopefully, you understand why the shit's going down?


    Granted, many of us aren't as easily offended. And true, not so much of a sense of humor, those guys. But keep in mind, many of us aren't so dedicated to our faith brainwashed.

    Actually, in retrospect, American Christians scare me even more. Have you ever watched those Christian brainwashing networks? Such as 'The Word'?

    Wow...


    Either way...

    I propose that we gather every follower of every religion, and burn them alive. That should solve more than a few problems in the world. Starting with Mahmoud 'The Holocaust Didn't Really Happen, and Hey Don't Worry About My Nuclear Arms Program' Ahmadinejad and ending with Pat 'Whoopsies! Does This Mean I Can't Build My JesusLand Theme Park In Jerusalem Anymore?' Robertson.

    Thanks for your time.
     
  8. {GD}Odie3

    {GD}Odie3 You Give Odie a Boner

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    Yes, I have had the honor of visiting the Blue Mosque and Saint Sophie church in Istanbul, Turkey. What a wonderful place to visit and to learn about, which is where I learned about how imagery is not allowed and against Muslim law.

    However, it's not against the law in Demark - so they need to STFU and stop burning crap up.
     
  9. yurch

    yurch Swinging the clue-by-four

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    Oddly enough, a few months ago, it would have been "don't print that, you're endangering the troops".

    Now it's going to be a popular Fox news segment.
     
  10. tomcat ha

    tomcat ha Well-Known Member

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    Agreed but burning me and all other religous people would solve some problems but then what is the main source of morals and such? Religions. I say in a world without religion there would be as much problems as a world with religions.
     
  11. TheShiningWizard

    TheShiningWizard Because it's more fantastical.

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    You are so edgy and in-my-face.
     
  12. AlmostAlive

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    I seriously doubt that. People would find a way to govern themselves. The problems continue because of religion, not because of absence of religion.

    Let's be honest. People continue to die worldwide in the name of religion and in most cases fanatic islamists are to blame. Tolerance is not part of their vocabulary. I keep asking myself, why does the self proclaimed moderate followers of islam sit on their hands, not speaking up about what they say they don't agree with. I don't see myself as a follower of any religion, but if people in my local church started murdering and kidnapping people with different views, I would certainly react. What does the so called moderate followers of islam do? Yes, it's a serious question. I'd really like to know.
     
  13. tomcat ha

    tomcat ha Well-Known Member

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    Well there are allot who try to get themselves visible and condem acts but its true allot of muslims dont know how to do it and then they arent interesting for the media. I think of all muslims about all wahhabists support the burnings and for the rest i dont know.
     
  14. Rostam

    Rostam PSN: Rostam_

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    If it wouldn't be religion, it would be something else. let's take you, Odie, as an example. You are trying to take this situation as an example of how much better you are compared to them. Personally I don't care, since everything about this deal is silly. Not only the reaction, but also the reaction to the reaction. Like this thread.
     
  15. {GD}Odie3

    {GD}Odie3 You Give Odie a Boner

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    hmm better than them - I hope a lot of people are....
     
  16. Harrm

    Harrm I am watching porns.

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    You know, the Middle East has been a headache for a long, long time. It's understandable that both sides are getting uneasy. Unfortunately for them, the Middle East lacks both the economic power and political unity to really stage any sort of national threat, whereas a union of European and American nations are having to put up with their frequent jihads and protests and flag burnings etc. It's odd how the countries against freedom of speech are so willing to burn flags and express their feelings of other governments.

    --Harrm
     
  17. Psychomorph

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    You speak about freaks, but what about those who don't really care? They are still called Muslims.

    And by the way, the dudes who showed these cartoos are so utterly dumb, that I find the reaction of these "middle eastern freaks" acceptable in relation. You know, I don't find it really acceptable, but doing something so stupid and show these cartoos, knowing about the situation there, is inacceptable.
    These newspaper idiots caused future deaths of some people who work in the middle east. Guess these idiots can wait for a "thank you" from a live internet beheading from a victim. Well done morons, the western world can be proud of you, as the middle east is proud of its fanatics.
     
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  18. Pipe_Dream

    Pipe_Dream 3-time World Champion Bowler

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    jihad, jihad
     
  19. das_ben

    das_ben Concerned.

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    Because the reaction surely was to be expected, right? Actually no one cared about the comics until some journalists decided to ask Imams what they think about it. It's likely that several hundred Danish muslims saw the cartoons and decided not to care until Imam Ahmed Abu Laban told them to.

    And hey, if those pesky muslims want us to accept their values, maybe they should try to accept our values, such as free media, too. They seem to have problems with understanding that in Europe newspapers don't have to be approved by the government. Running to the Prime Minister to cry on his shoulder and then storm embassies and boycott products is not the course of action recommended in these situations... a statement to the media, the particular paper involved and perhaps even a boycott of said paper would have done. It's called 'civilization'.
     
  20. Fuzzle

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    Didn't read the entire thread, but it should be emphasized that these riots are not just an isolated case. Embassies are attacked in gaza, palestinia, and syria.
    These are from london:
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    Shopkeepers all over israel who carry danish products are being attacked, a norwegian muslim said the other day that this was a "declaration of war", leaflets which encourage to kill danes and norwegians are being handed out, and even an all-women protest with 10.000 participants took place:
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    They're taking it pretty seriously. I doubt it's just an isolated incident from some extremist group that has been blown up by the media.
     

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