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HUD Damage Indicator

Discussion in 'Unreal Tournament 3' started by Kharnellius, Apr 22, 2006.

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How would you like UT2007 to handle the HUD damage indicator?

  1. Full screen flashes (like UT99)

    9 vote(s)
    24.3%
  2. Heavy hit recovery (like UT99)

    9 vote(s)
    24.3%
  3. Directional arrows near edge (like UT2k4)

    11 vote(s)
    29.7%
  4. Directional arrows near center (like Half-Life)

    5 vote(s)
    13.5%
  5. Option to toggle these features on/off as we see fit

    29 vote(s)
    78.4%
  6. Blur screen when hit (Like Pariah)

    4 vote(s)
    10.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Kharnellius

    Kharnellius .

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    Am I the only person here who doesn't like the directional damage indicators in UT2004? The way I see it there are two problems...

    1) I forgot all about them until recently.....which means they aren't helpful at all.

    2) I never get the feeling like I just got pounded super hard no matter how red they flash meaning I never really get that urgency of "holy crap something really hit me HARD!"

    I know some people didn't like it but in UT99 you KNEW when someone was hitting and and whether it was massive damage or not. Now I realize that UT99 didn't show direction but at least I found it helpful in letting me know...."Hey dumbass! Some dude is fragging your ass!!!!"

    I even liked the fact that when you got hit REALLY hard your view shook a bit as you literally "recovered" from the crushing blow.

    What would you like to see in UT2007?



    (You can pick more than one option so have at it!)
     
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  2. gregori

    gregori BUF Refugee

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    It will probably be done in the form of screen blurring concussive effect+ red flashes!
     
  3. flo0tz

    flo0tz New Member

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    God, I hope there's no fancy blurring effects or screen shaking, i want be able to aim/recover after being hit.
     
  4. gregori

    gregori BUF Refugee

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    Its what they did in UC2, so that probably a good indicator of what will be in UT2k7. Too much heavy distortion will cause noobs to be slaughtered at their first go, probably discourage them away!
     
  5. JaFO

    JaFO bugs are features too ...

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    never mind that all the wannabe-pro's will complain about how those flashes are soo distracting ...

    I'd say the ultimate solution is a combination of arrows and flashes that change in size depending on distance/power of the attack.

    Perhaps the hit-indicator should be more like the 'sound/activity-radar' in Ghost Recon 1.
    [​IMG]

    Whatever solution is picked ... I just hope players can't disable the blinding-effects, because knowing that hitting a player also blinds them is an advantage I'd like to keep.
     
  6. Kharnellius

    Kharnellius .

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    Good point.
     
  7. toniglandyl

    toniglandyl internal data fragmentation : 62203480%

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    in pariah, you could disable all the blur effects (like when you heal yourself). but well, it's pariah... :lol:
    i like how UT2004 damage "locator" works, i'd like to have it back but improved to make it more... unreal :D
     
  8. Wormbo

    Wormbo Administrator Staff Member

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    IMHO the UT2004 way is the best as it doesn't distract while it still clearly signals a hit. An option to turn it off may be useful to those who still find it being distracting.
     
  9. gregori

    gregori BUF Refugee

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    Well if the screen is going to be blurred, make it VERY brief! This feature could hurt noobs alot more than wannabe Pro's esp if you get shock rifled from afar , and before you can see were to respond, your sniped or shocked again and again, DEATH! That would be no fun after just picking up the game
     
  10. TraCK

    TraCK Amateur Sketch

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    Bluring would be such a dumb idea.
     
  11. nuttella

    nuttella Scare

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    I don't even notice the screenflash in 2k4. In UT it was not all that distracting, but it gave you the sense of being hurt. When you tool a lot of damage, you would shake more and really think "ow!" I like it. It increases the sense of immersion.
     
  12. soyrico

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    maybe the volume of charactors voice once he/she feels it like if it's weak it might be a oh! :stick: but if it REALY hurt it would be a AAHHHH!!!!!
    :instagib:
     
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  13. Kharnellius

    Kharnellius .

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    Exactly....you summed up my thoughts quite nicely.
     
  14. -AEnubis-

    -AEnubis- fps greater than star

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    I hate it in 2kx, I hate it, I hate it. I don't care if it blinds me for a sec. I like being able to gauge how much damage I've taken as I take it, and again, not have to keep my nose in the hud. One of these days if they get stuff like this right, I'll be able to play without a hud.

    I can't tell you how many times I get quadruple beamed, double bolted, or headshot, and not realize it until it's way too late. Or the infamous "right before the rocket hits you, somone bolts you."

    UT2004 Screen Flashes: Joke

    [​IMG]

    UnrealTournament Screen Flashes: Useful, and yet somehow, non-obstructive IMO.

    [​IMG]

    I can still see through that, and that shot it taken from a video where I kill my assailant, through that. I've also done it to the same guy, after he jacked me up in the air with 3 rox, binded as hell, and turned and shot him from mid air, knowing he'd have another rocket awaiting me if I didn't.

    I want that option at least, I don't care if my opponent is blinded or not. I usually deal damage so fast anyway, he can suffer my 2k4 fate, and cry "BS you didn't hit me with that much" until his eyes fall out. Only difference is, I know the BS isn't how much damage I took, so I cry out "F#@$ing Bu££ $h!t screen flashes !@#$%^&&**^@$^#@^$#@^!!11!!1one1!"

    ...and when he cries BS, I'll tell him "turn on your screen flashes."

    /rant.

    So I voted both 99 Styles, HL style, and option too Option to choose.

    It should probably go under the same catagory of how you can customize your ONS map location on your hud, and Boogs idea of scalable weapon location too.
     
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  15. Bullet10k

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    IMO: I forgot all about them until recently.....which means I don't care about them at all since I usually know where my opponent is anyway, especially when they start shooting (besides, it's pretty hard to miss them with 100 FOV).
     
  16. Wormbo

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    There's a difference between the idea (which is good, IMHO), and the way it's implemented. Properly implemented, UT2004's directional damage indicators would be way better than full screen flashes.
     
  17. -AEnubis-

    -AEnubis- fps greater than star

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    Well, I have to agree with bullet, that I don't usually need help finding where I'm being shot from, because of sound, the same reason the blinding damage indicators don't bother me. I have another useful sense.

    I'd appreciate the "help the noobs" idea, in giving direction indicators, but I don't see them when I wanna know how much damage I took, and it would be even harder to notice the direction they point.

    Hence why I voted HL style as an option, because they did a better job of accomplishing both. I could alway tell direction, and intensity there, and not be blinded by it.

    I personally, for me, would just prefer the focus on damage intensity, and be able to gauge it accurately without looking at my hud for health, which I could do, in UT, with grotesque accuracy, and lean on sound for the rest.
     
  18. nuttella

    nuttella Scare

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    In UT99 you always knew which direction you were hit from because every weapon had push.
     
  19. Kharnellius

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    Whoa! Very good point. All the more reason I like screen flashes...I dont need to know direction.
     
  20. JaFO

    JaFO bugs are features too ...

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    Even if a newbie wasn't blinded then there's zero chance he could respond before he got fragged anyway.
    I'd even say that a blinding flash would help them learn that getting shot really really hurts and that there's not likely to be a second chance ...

    ie : getting fragged without any decent hint as to the damage is defnitely more annoying, because you might get the idea that the other person was cheating.
     

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