HL2 RELEASED !!!

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Lt.

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geogob said:
Get used to it, I'm pretty sure this will be more and more common (especially if sale numbers for Source base games and HL2 goes well).

real games:
pay upfront.
get the game.
play for as many decades as you want.

(think 'chess' or 'final fantasy 5')


shady, fly-by-night operations:
pay for an account.
play until the gameserver goes down.

(CS:S, Guildwars, etc.)


all this FFonline/Steam crap we are starting to see is just trying to make ****ty transient games the mainstream. If a game is transient (at some point in the future its backers will drop of the face of the planet, making the game unplayable) it should be advertised as such, and priced accordingly.
until that day I simply will not buy this new (crappy) generation of games.
 
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Strange this internet thing. I know people, who play near every shooter and HL2 is on the top of the list, but he/she does not have internet, no modem, no connection info, no nothing, pretty crappy.

I think if the game is old enough and they stop the servers, they release a patch with no internet unlock stuff. But really, what if the servers will be down? And they will be.

P.S. Did I understood it right, you just need to unlock it once after install, not every start unlocking?
 
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I bought HL2 today and allready have the first problem with this internet sh!t, 'Sorry can´t register your CD Key yet, you´ll receive a message from the Steam Team'. Damn it!
 
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I'm waiting for HL2 to drop under $30 CDN. That, or a better mod than INF 2.9.
 

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I think if the game is old enough and they stop the servers, they release a patch with no internet unlock stuff. But really, what if the servers will be down? And they will be.
I remember reading something a while back that said if steam was ever shut down, a final patch will be released to do just that.
 

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Keganator said:
I remember reading something a while back that said if steam was ever shut down, a final patch will be released to do just that.
I'm sure that'll really help the people who'll want to install it without an internet connection.
 

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I'm pretty sure we're at a point on our timeline where the people who have yet to acquire some sort of internet connection are considered 'dead' by the majority of the world.

If you don't have an internet connection or the desire for one, you're not going to be purchasing HL2. That's just how it is.

Granted, there may be an innuit, whom, by way of hand-written mail, has heard of this 'Half-Life 2' and would like to play it.

But you know what? We (the internet) hate the innuit people, so **** them.

And don't say, 'but I can't afford service' or 'nothing is offered where I live', because those crappy AOL discs come with at least a free day (if not a week or more) of service. That's all you need to register your retail copy.

At this point, if you're saying, '...but what if they don't have phonelines?', then I think we can safely assume they don't consider computers, let alone video games (or human contact) a priority in life...

And if you live so far out in the middle of nowhere that you aren't spammed by AOL trial discs, then the world as we know it does not apply to you.
 

Arethusa

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Internet go down? That unpossible!

Or, holy ****, someone with a laptop that can't get online wants to play? Too bad for him!
 

Arethusa

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Uhm, actually, there are plenty of situations in which a laptop can't get online to register it in the first place, which was kind of, I don't know, my point. Even if it doesn't lack equipment, there's no guarantee that the owner has a connection available— which, incidentally, happened to several people I know with HL2. They certainly weren't lacking the hardware to play.

It's not insurmountable, but it is entirely unacceptable to treat customers like this.
 

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Oh, this is a 'laptop' specific problem now?

I didn't realize.

Arethusa said:
Even if it doesn't lack equipment, there's no guarantee that the owner has a connection available— which, incidentally, happened to several people I know with HL2. They certainly weren't lacking the hardware to play.

You must have some really lazy friends. Honestly, America Online, as gay as it is, will give you (I'm guessing) at least a month of free service. All they have to do is, use one of their AOL coasters to register for their free month (or whatever the free deal is), register over Steam, delete AOL and never use it again.

Bang! Half-Life 2 in offline mode, all they want!

Meaning, all your friends need to do in order to accomplish this is:

A: Have a phone line.
B: Have a computer.
C: Wait ten minutes.

If they can't commit to those three requirements, then my friend, they don't deserve to play Half-Life 2.
 

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I got two copies for $35. One for $35 (retail) and one for free with my 9800pro AIW.

However, I don't think you'll have such luck.

Besides, it's an awesome game. Just buy it and stop being such a dick. ;)
 

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If I'm going to spend a cent on a Steam game, I need definitive and absolute clarification on the following scenario: I buy the game off Steam. Time goes on, and it eventually gets uninstalled, caught in a hard drive crash, left in the old HD after I make a new system, etc. Ten years from now, I have a nostalgia kick and I want to reinstall and play the game I bought on Steam*. However, Steam is now dead. Do I now have to track down a physical copy off eBay, even though I already paid the money for an online copy? What assurance do I have that I'll always have the game available to me for as long as I wish if I purchase it on Steam? That possibility alone would drive me to just go to the store and buy a physical copy of the game, or order one from a gaming store (which, just to remind some people, has always been an option if you're too lazy/busy/fat to saunter down to Gamestop and purchase a copy).


*Yes, it is very likely that this could happen. I often play games years after they leave the market. Just this week, I started playing AH-64D Longbow again (and unloaded $50 on eBay for a sealed copy of Longbow 2. Merry Christmas to me). I also keep my disks for OMF2097, Tyrian, Incredible Machine, Sierra's Lode Runner, Space Quest (released in the late 80s), Monkey Island, Rocket Jockey and Death Rally handy, and they all get some playing time every year.
 

Lt.

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cracwhore said:
use one of their AOL coasters
Christ, man! are you actively trying to destroy the world?!

Arethusa, under no circumstances should you allow your friends to even touch an AOL disk. Have your friends go to juno.com free account signup for a free email account and 10 hours of dialup access a month.

at the end of the signup they will try to trick you into downloading their auto-dialing software, but if you are savy, just skip that step and go to http://www.juno.com/s/numbers to get the access number and set up the connection directly thru ppp or what-have-you.

an AOL connection probably wont even allow the game access to the net. :rolleyes:

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@TSW: "Ten years from now, I have a nostalgia kick" thats exactly what im talkin about.
With Steam they want gamers to pay $50 bucks now, and play only until the next latest-and-gr8test game comes out and spend another 50 bones on that one too.

they dont want their new releases to compete with old games, so they push a new "e-z" transient game distributor.
nostalgia (or a quality game that will be around for years) is bad for buisness.
 
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