"who needs guns in normal life???"
Oh please. You shouldn't outlaw things because of lack of necessity. Any hypocrites that want to start doing so in the name of saving lives should definately start with cars. I can't speak for Germans, but here in America there are more guns than cars, but cars kill MANY more people every year. Just in case you were going to say "no, I need my car", you are dead wrong, you don't need a car any more than I need a gun. The world didn't stand still before the invention of internal combustion engines, and wouldn't stand still if transportation was limited to the public kind.
"I can??t believe you want protect yourself with a gun"
As opposed to what? Dying? Using gun to protect yourself is statistically (and physically, if you know what your doing) safer than protecting yourself with a weapon that isn't a firearm, and safer than just being passive and letting the criminal do what he wants. (Again, stats are for the US)
"do you want to shoot the guy who wants to steel something out of your home, or the guy that piss you off in the public transport???"
I'm sure no gun owners I know want to shoot anybody, that's only the last resort. Here in the US, in 98% of our 2,500,000 anual actions of self defense using a firearm, there are no shots fired. And that is the ideal conclusion, scaring off or detaining the criminal without hurting anyone or causing any damage.
"Outlaws will always have guns"
Absolutely 100% correct.
"but a gunfight with those people is not a solution for that!!"
As I said before, very rarely does an actual gunfight ensue when someone protects themselves with a gun. But if things lead to that, the victim probably only has 2 choices: A gunfight, or getting hurt/robbed/raped/killed.
"this thing reminds me the armamentsituation between countries... when the outlaws know that the people they want to steal from/rape/kill/kidnapp or whatevver are armed they will get better guns and if you know the outlaws have good "material" you want to have better one and so on and so on."
So, your suggesting we all just give up the balance of power, and let people do whatever they want to us? Just throw away all your country's weapons and let some empire come in, so they can rule you with an iron fist for a few years before they start exterminating you? Yea, that sounds smart. Cases of criminals using assault rifles and the like are extremely rare, criminals usually go for cheap, small caliber handguns that fit in pockets.
"For my protection against brutal outlaws I have the armed police I do not need a own gun."
Good for you, if only everyone lived with 50 german supercops on every corner... unfortunately, I don't. I don't know about you, but I can not and will not rely on a police force to protect me, they simply cannot be everywhere at once (on average it takes over 30 minutes for US police to arrive on the scene of a 911 call), and as a matter of fact they don't even HAVE to protect me, they can rightfully ignore my 911 call if they decide it's not of importance- their job is to catch people who break laws and put them in prison, which in turn keeps the citizens safer as a whole... the fact that they help people in immediate need of protection is based solely on the fact that they decide to do so.
"And for sportsreasons ... ok.. may the sportsman have special sportsguns which are placed in their shootingranges and they will not allowed to carry them. And rifles for hunting for the fucking people who do this for fun and for the people who do this to care for nature to protect overpopulation of some species in our menmade "nature"."
Ok, what do you hope to accomplish by this? Once again, I can't speak for Germany, but in the US that could mean up to 2,500,000 more innocent people dying each year... and the very maximum people it could save is somewhere around 35,000... but like you said, "Outlaws will always have guns", so those people probably aren't going to live either.
And yes, I do realize you ended the post talking about Europe and not the US, but I don't know many stats of the like about other countries, and if Europians are admitting that "Outlaws will always have guns", then gun control would probably have the same damaging effect there, too.
Criminals armed + civilians unarmed + police not superhumans with psychic powers and infinite manpower/resources = alot of dead/hurt/raped/robbed civilians.
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[This message was edited by DeadeyeDan[ToA] on Jul 18, 2000 at 19:05.]
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