Oh my god... I hate Kafka. Metamorphosis was the WORST book I have ever read!!! Had to bleach the memory portion of my brain afterwards, in hopes of forgetting that damn book!!! ARGH!! 
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-agunzagun-
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You don't like Kafka, hmm? I can understand that; nearly everyone I've met has different tastes in books. My English 12 teacher vehemently dislikes Kafka as well; We were supposed to write a Biography on any authors or poets that we've read about in her class, Although we never read Kafka, she made it clear that we could write about anyone. When I told her that I was going to write about Franz Kafka, she didn't like that idea too much and tried to get me to write about someone else. I argued about this with her for a number of days, until I realized that I had written absolutely nothing. In the end, I wrote a biography on H.G. Wells.
My Academic Decathlon Coach, on the other hand, very much enjoys Kafka's works (As do I; I enjoyed "The Metamorphosis" and "A Description of a Struggle")
I'm not going to argue about Kafka and his works and if they're actually worth reading or not... Instead, I am going to ask you this: What books, would you say, are worth reading? I would be interested in reading anything that you write down.
:addendnum: nearly forgot to add this in there. Did you understand the theme of the story? If not, then that's probably why you didn't like it so much.
My Academic Decathlon Coach, on the other hand, very much enjoys Kafka's works (As do I; I enjoyed "The Metamorphosis" and "A Description of a Struggle")
I'm not going to argue about Kafka and his works and if they're actually worth reading or not... Instead, I am going to ask you this: What books, would you say, are worth reading? I would be interested in reading anything that you write down.
:addendnum: nearly forgot to add this in there. Did you understand the theme of the story? If not, then that's probably why you didn't like it so much.
Desc. of a Struggle was decent... but I just don't understand what makes a person write something as incredibly messed-up as Metamorphosis.... its like he copied a dream he had word-for word... thats the only explanation. Either that or he got drunk one night..
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-agunzagun-
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Hmm... If Kafka really WAS drunk when he came up with the storyline behind The Metamorphosis, then I would be guessing that he would have been incapable of actually writing it down, as intoxicated people have trouble doing ANYTHING right
I've read through a small introduction by a guy named Stan Corngold, and he doesn't really tell us how Kafka came up with the idea of the story. For all we know, you're probably right: Maybe the story had been inspired by a dream. Also, after reading through this introduction, I've learned that Franz Kafka himself wanted all of his works (including "The Meta.", among other short stories) burned by one of his close friends... Apparently, Franz enjoyed his works about as much as you did, Kibbles
Finally, I really don't think The Metamorphosis is totally messed up, as it has one underlying theme: Never let anything totally run your life (In Gregor Samsas' case, it was his job as a travelling salesman), if you do, you'll end up miserable, and the ones that love you will renounce you. IMO, 'The Metamorphosis' is nothing more than a "identity crisis" story (much like 'Fight Club') with a twist; Gregor turns into a gigantic bug.
I've read through a small introduction by a guy named Stan Corngold, and he doesn't really tell us how Kafka came up with the idea of the story. For all we know, you're probably right: Maybe the story had been inspired by a dream. Also, after reading through this introduction, I've learned that Franz Kafka himself wanted all of his works (including "The Meta.", among other short stories) burned by one of his close friends... Apparently, Franz enjoyed his works about as much as you did, Kibbles
Finally, I really don't think The Metamorphosis is totally messed up, as it has one underlying theme: Never let anything totally run your life (In Gregor Samsas' case, it was his job as a travelling salesman), if you do, you'll end up miserable, and the ones that love you will renounce you. IMO, 'The Metamorphosis' is nothing more than a "identity crisis" story (much like 'Fight Club') with a twist; Gregor turns into a gigantic bug.
<i>:addendum: Oh, as for the two-inch baby dick thing. That's a half-assed assumption as well. I would send you a picture of the captain himself, but I am guessing that you would try to cram that picture up your ass before you got the chance to look at it carefully... queer.</i>
The master of hypocrisy himself, I see. I love the half-assed assumption you made about me being queer (like its really bad to be a f<i></i>ag... who cares anyways? Some guy wants to fu<i></i>ck another guy in the ass and claim it on his tax forms, let him... none of my damn business.) That doesn't matter. What does matter is that I found a picture of the "Captain" you keep down your pants.
<img src=http://www.nightscribe.com/Military/images/rudyformal.jpg>
He says for an extra seven-fifty, he takes out his dentures for you to make the experience silky-smooth.
<i>Yes. from posts about how you think democracy is a "sham",</i>
I don't think democracy is a sham. I think crazy lynch mob rule kicks ass. <i>Segregation for all! Replicas of Dachau!</i> Mobs are stupid, moronic, sluggish beasts easily pleased by tax cuts or legalized incest or whatever it is you do down there to entertain yourselves, while your government gets away with mass slaughter. For example, if your government worships democracy so much, how come it allowed a portugese fascist dictatorship to exist while toppling a democratically elected marxist state? I don't think all democracy is a sham, just that coin-flip dictatorship known as the American two-party system. I don't have a problem with democracy or dictatorship either way, so long as you call it what it is and stop placating the people with a bunch of b.s.
<i>and that the majority of americans are being "lied" to by the government,</i>
I always hate stating the obvious, but what the hell, since your brain's on low-gear anyways. Nixon. Reagan. Bush I & II. Clinton. Honest Abe my ass.
<i>to your thoughts on the bombing of the USS Cole, which, I might add, were pretty fuc<i></i>king disgusting</i>
What I find disgusting is that a bunch of sailors who did jack sh<i></i>it were made into heroes by the U.S. government. <i>Hey, I didn't get blown up today, where the fu<i></i>ck is my medal?</i> The fact that a bunch of British-American terrorists committing an act of butchery like the Boston Tea Party is something to be celebrated, while a bunch of patriotic Yemen folk committing suicide to get the American military out of their country is condemned disgusts me even more. Yeah, I'm glad those sailors got blown up. I'd have done it myself, given the chance.
<i>Oh, and you're saying that I don't have a life on the basis that I used a fifty year old word? If that held true for everyone, Mojo, then I believe that no one in the western hemisphere would have a life... but, I know that's only a joke... Yes... A very shi<i></i>tty joke...</i>
That actually wasn't a joke, its a statement of fact. Sure, some stuff's held up for fifty years. Sock hops and lynchings have not.
Besides, its not really just that that leads me to believe you have no life. Sh<i></i>it like "My Academic Decathlon Coach..." and talking about "avatars" in relation to computers also lead me to believe you're a shrimpy, shrivel-di<i></i>cked, unfunny, unintelligent, boring, faceless nobody. But hey, you're a Mathlete... I should watch out. You eat history for breakfast and can benchpress ten-to-the-sixth-thirds your own weight or some such garbage.
<i>As for the contest thing... sure, it's illeagal to rig contests. But, what you were getting all worked up over was a VIDEO-GAME CONTEST. Think about that for a while, Mojo: A video game contest... loser</i>
A) You seem awful worked up for a VIDEO-GAME FORUM. I mean, a Mathlete like yourself, preparing to multiply, divide, dissertate, and orate his way to Academic Decathlon gold really shouldn't be making so many spelling mistakes. Especially in words like "illegal."
B) A contest is a contest. That's like saying all things video-game related should be ignored. Observe the stupidity involved:
Sgt. on Site - "The clerk seems to have been shot in the thighs at close range, thereby immobilizing him while the culprit brutally crushed his skull with a baseball bat and drank his blood."
Constable - "Sir, other than the money, all that's missing is a video game."
Sgt. - "FORGET IT THEN! THIS IS A VIDEO-GAME RELATED MURDER... <b>LOSER!!!</b>"
See how utterly stupid it is to let people get away with crap like that? Video-game related or not, its still cheap. Especially when its an unfair competition due to the breach of rules. So fu<i></i>ck it... somebody tried to pull off a scam, I didn't let them. Now why don't you go bitch <i>them</i> out for being gimpy enough to actually rig a video-game contest?
Hell man, you aren't even a face around here. You're a nobody, or I'd remember you. I don't even remember your other name, NUKE!... and believe me, I would if you were anybody with a clever line every now and again. Hell, I remember Snakeye and Mr. T and they were gone long before you ever showed your unwitty ass. Go back to smoking cigarettes and getting rough sex from an unlubricated baseball bat, Mathlete.
The master of hypocrisy himself, I see. I love the half-assed assumption you made about me being queer (like its really bad to be a f<i></i>ag... who cares anyways? Some guy wants to fu<i></i>ck another guy in the ass and claim it on his tax forms, let him... none of my damn business.) That doesn't matter. What does matter is that I found a picture of the "Captain" you keep down your pants.
<img src=http://www.nightscribe.com/Military/images/rudyformal.jpg>
He says for an extra seven-fifty, he takes out his dentures for you to make the experience silky-smooth.
<i>Yes. from posts about how you think democracy is a "sham",</i>
I don't think democracy is a sham. I think crazy lynch mob rule kicks ass. <i>Segregation for all! Replicas of Dachau!</i> Mobs are stupid, moronic, sluggish beasts easily pleased by tax cuts or legalized incest or whatever it is you do down there to entertain yourselves, while your government gets away with mass slaughter. For example, if your government worships democracy so much, how come it allowed a portugese fascist dictatorship to exist while toppling a democratically elected marxist state? I don't think all democracy is a sham, just that coin-flip dictatorship known as the American two-party system. I don't have a problem with democracy or dictatorship either way, so long as you call it what it is and stop placating the people with a bunch of b.s.
<i>and that the majority of americans are being "lied" to by the government,</i>
I always hate stating the obvious, but what the hell, since your brain's on low-gear anyways. Nixon. Reagan. Bush I & II. Clinton. Honest Abe my ass.
<i>to your thoughts on the bombing of the USS Cole, which, I might add, were pretty fuc<i></i>king disgusting</i>
What I find disgusting is that a bunch of sailors who did jack sh<i></i>it were made into heroes by the U.S. government. <i>Hey, I didn't get blown up today, where the fu<i></i>ck is my medal?</i> The fact that a bunch of British-American terrorists committing an act of butchery like the Boston Tea Party is something to be celebrated, while a bunch of patriotic Yemen folk committing suicide to get the American military out of their country is condemned disgusts me even more. Yeah, I'm glad those sailors got blown up. I'd have done it myself, given the chance.
<i>Oh, and you're saying that I don't have a life on the basis that I used a fifty year old word? If that held true for everyone, Mojo, then I believe that no one in the western hemisphere would have a life... but, I know that's only a joke... Yes... A very shi<i></i>tty joke...</i>
That actually wasn't a joke, its a statement of fact. Sure, some stuff's held up for fifty years. Sock hops and lynchings have not.
Besides, its not really just that that leads me to believe you have no life. Sh<i></i>it like "My Academic Decathlon Coach..." and talking about "avatars" in relation to computers also lead me to believe you're a shrimpy, shrivel-di<i></i>cked, unfunny, unintelligent, boring, faceless nobody. But hey, you're a Mathlete... I should watch out. You eat history for breakfast and can benchpress ten-to-the-sixth-thirds your own weight or some such garbage.
<i>As for the contest thing... sure, it's illeagal to rig contests. But, what you were getting all worked up over was a VIDEO-GAME CONTEST. Think about that for a while, Mojo: A video game contest... loser</i>
A) You seem awful worked up for a VIDEO-GAME FORUM. I mean, a Mathlete like yourself, preparing to multiply, divide, dissertate, and orate his way to Academic Decathlon gold really shouldn't be making so many spelling mistakes. Especially in words like "illegal."
B) A contest is a contest. That's like saying all things video-game related should be ignored. Observe the stupidity involved:
Sgt. on Site - "The clerk seems to have been shot in the thighs at close range, thereby immobilizing him while the culprit brutally crushed his skull with a baseball bat and drank his blood."
Constable - "Sir, other than the money, all that's missing is a video game."
Sgt. - "FORGET IT THEN! THIS IS A VIDEO-GAME RELATED MURDER... <b>LOSER!!!</b>"
See how utterly stupid it is to let people get away with crap like that? Video-game related or not, its still cheap. Especially when its an unfair competition due to the breach of rules. So fu<i></i>ck it... somebody tried to pull off a scam, I didn't let them. Now why don't you go bitch <i>them</i> out for being gimpy enough to actually rig a video-game contest?
Hell man, you aren't even a face around here. You're a nobody, or I'd remember you. I don't even remember your other name, NUKE!... and believe me, I would if you were anybody with a clever line every now and again. Hell, I remember Snakeye and Mr. T and they were gone long before you ever showed your unwitty ass. Go back to smoking cigarettes and getting rough sex from an unlubricated baseball bat, Mathlete.
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-agunzagun-
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hahahahah!
oh ****, Mojo... I really hate to say this, but you've wasted a hell of a lot of time writing up that rebuttal. I nearly had forgotten that this topic even existed, that is, until you saw that it was necessary to dig this thing out of the grave. You still want to fight over this whole name stealing thing, jack ass? Fine, I'll just play along:
So **** it... somebody tried to pull off a scam, I didn't let them
If I remember correctly, all of your crying and whining about how the TO team won amounted to ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Keep in mind, that is "If I remember correctly"... for all I know, you could have won that little "war" of yours... If I'm wrong, then I really could care less, as I don't really keep tabs on that kind of (meaningless) ****.
I love the half-assed assumption you made about me being queer
That was hardly an assumption, you simp. Do you remember writing this this?:
see, normally some 300 lb. biker named 'Chainz' or something makes me his bitch...
that two inches of baby dick just won't give me what a man on mescalin with the words "Harley-Davidson Live to Ride" tattooed on his cock can.
... such sentences could only lead me to conclude that you are, in fact, a queer, and enjoy it very much.
As always, I skipped through your thoughts about America and how it's a 'horrible, horrible lie.' It's kind of funny, I used to think the same way about america... that is, until I stopped listening to RATM and started to careless as to what my country has done and what it's doing now.
Hell man, you aren't even a face around here.
Oh yeah, I aknowledge that. I know I'm a faceless joe on this board, I could careless.
You know what? I'm not going to bother finishing this post. I could easily do so, but I'm simply not interested in this squabble any more. Sorry to dissapoint you, Wikkan, but it looks as if there will not be a fight of the century anymore.
oh ****, Mojo... I really hate to say this, but you've wasted a hell of a lot of time writing up that rebuttal. I nearly had forgotten that this topic even existed, that is, until you saw that it was necessary to dig this thing out of the grave. You still want to fight over this whole name stealing thing, jack ass? Fine, I'll just play along:
So **** it... somebody tried to pull off a scam, I didn't let them
If I remember correctly, all of your crying and whining about how the TO team won amounted to ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Keep in mind, that is "If I remember correctly"... for all I know, you could have won that little "war" of yours... If I'm wrong, then I really could care less, as I don't really keep tabs on that kind of (meaningless) ****.
I love the half-assed assumption you made about me being queer
That was hardly an assumption, you simp. Do you remember writing this this?:
see, normally some 300 lb. biker named 'Chainz' or something makes me his bitch...
that two inches of baby dick just won't give me what a man on mescalin with the words "Harley-Davidson Live to Ride" tattooed on his cock can.
... such sentences could only lead me to conclude that you are, in fact, a queer, and enjoy it very much.As always, I skipped through your thoughts about America and how it's a 'horrible, horrible lie.' It's kind of funny, I used to think the same way about america... that is, until I stopped listening to RATM and started to careless as to what my country has done and what it's doing now.
Hell man, you aren't even a face around here.
Oh yeah, I aknowledge that. I know I'm a faceless joe on this board, I could careless.
You know what? I'm not going to bother finishing this post. I could easily do so, but I'm simply not interested in this squabble any more. Sorry to dissapoint you, Wikkan, but it looks as if there will not be a fight of the century anymore.
This is the biggest one sided flame war I have ever seen in my life. Props to Pac for showing true maturity here by staying out of it for the most part. Mojo just can't control himself, that's why we love him.
And agunzagun, why you did somewhat redeem yourself after those random ramblings on various topics, you seem like the type of person who doesn't think before he flames. You seem like an ok <i>kid</i>, but while you were cutting on Mojo for his lack of wit included in responces, I don't believe I have ever laughed at anything you have ever said on these boards. You're neither funny nor clever, and the hypocrisy is overwhelming. I shouldn't have even bother to reply to this, but I think we needed an unbiased third party in this conversation before it spins way out of control.
Admin?
And agunzagun, why you did somewhat redeem yourself after those random ramblings on various topics, you seem like the type of person who doesn't think before he flames. You seem like an ok <i>kid</i>, but while you were cutting on Mojo for his lack of wit included in responces, I don't believe I have ever laughed at anything you have ever said on these boards. You're neither funny nor clever, and the hypocrisy is overwhelming. I shouldn't have even bother to reply to this, but I think we needed an unbiased third party in this conversation before it spins way out of control.
Admin?
I thought this thread was quite hilarious. Hey, we are entitled to our own opinions, how ever un-informed they may be. It was not my wishes for random useless flamings, and none of them were random and useless save one, but we know who that was. Flushing the thread would be a major waste here, just because of the pure hilarity and humor involved with all parties. So I say have your opinions, but don't force them down our throats. You may like it, or not. If not, theres no need to reply to it. Just ignore it, as there is no reason to get angry about something outside your circle of influence. Thank you.
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-agunzagun-
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An OK kid? OK KID!? heh, that's pretty funny coming you, man It says in your profile that you were born in '86; I was born in '84... ... Oh well... thanks for that compliment, nevertheless
Props to Pac for showing true maturity here by staying out of it for the most part
This is a pretty funny statement as well, seeing how it was Pacman that started this whole thing. Believe me, read through the entire topic again, and you'll see that he actually started this little 'mess'.
Mojo just can't control himself.
hah... apparently not, as he announced to us all that he allows some 300 pound biker to take advatage of him in a prison cell
I have alot more to write, but I really don't feel the need to finish this message. Good bye.
It says in your profile that you were born in '86; I was born in '84... ... Oh well... thanks for that compliment, nevertheless Props to Pac for showing true maturity here by staying out of it for the most part
This is a pretty funny statement as well, seeing how it was Pacman that started this whole thing. Believe me, read through the entire topic again, and you'll see that he actually started this little 'mess'.
Mojo just can't control himself.
hah... apparently not, as he announced to us all that he allows some 300 pound biker to take advatage of him in a prison cell
I have alot more to write, but I really don't feel the need to finish this message. Good bye.