1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Two Factor Authentication is now available on BeyondUnreal Forums. To configure it, visit your Profile and look for the "Two Step Verification" option on the left side. We can send codes via email (may be slower) or you can set up any TOTP Authenticator app on your phone (Authy, Google Authenticator, etc) to deliver codes. It is highly recommended that you configure this to keep your account safe.

gas

Discussion in 'Pre-Public Beta 2 Bugs' started by nitrous{e}, Apr 24, 2005.

  1. nitrous{e}

    nitrous{e} New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2005
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm getting the impression (hoping) patch 1b isn't far away now, so this may be my last chance to have a rant...

    I'm totally gonna get flamed for this - but the gas grenade just ain't what it used to be and I've seen nothing in the changelog hinting it's gonna change.

    Used to play U2XMP a lot. I play from New Zealand so lag is a problem (which isn't gonna change till sombody disproves Einstein). This meant playing ranger was a bit of a joke, try sniping with a lag of 200! Gunner & tech it was.

    Was stoked when FMI announced UTXMP, XMP has a future - woo hoo - all hail FMI! UTXMP came out and it showed huge promise, but as the masses noted, the game balance had changed. Everybody moaning about the pistol, shotty and rocket launcher - nobody's said anything about gas. The gas grenade is now near useless. (Yeah - I know - thank **** for that you all say!) But it's taken a lot of strength away from the tech.

    I'd love to see the gas grenade return to somthing like what it was in U2XMP. The rate the gas comes out of the grenade needs to be increased. At the moment is far to slow to be useful, you fire a grenade and oponents are all well away before it slowly starts to seep a little. Fire fights are usually over in a few seconds, so the gas needs to be there near instantly to be any use.

    I know everyone hates gas, but it's good for a few things. It allows people on crap pings like me to get a few kills. It's also good for newbies, and we need a few more of them on the servers.

    Flame me if you will - but bring back the gas!!

    BTW - thankyou FMI for giving this great game a lifeline. Can't wait till 1b comes out and the servers a full again!
     
  2. (GR)Killer

    (GR)Killer ...

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2004
    Messages:
    3,562
    Likes Received:
    0
    *sets you on fire getting you flamed*

    200 bad ping for sniping eh? try 250+ or even 400 with tons of outloss :lol:
     
  3. GotBeer?

    GotBeer? The nozzle is now calibrating

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    2,862
    Likes Received:
    0
    [pet]Crow apparently has horrendous ping and outloss/inloss and still dominates, but he probably hax too. (Did I just say "probably"? ;) )
    I try Ranger every once in a while with my 250-350 ping; can't hit anybody with the sniper rifle unless they're standing still.

    Is this kinda what you're asking for?:
    Yay, now noobs can spam more efficiently! :rockon:
     
  4. theomniproject

    theomniproject .::.

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2005
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    0
    sounds like it changes the the amount of emitters to block your veiw, so you actually get blinded by the flames/gas. right now it only blocks ur view if you look down... i do think the gas nade is much more effective with a wider explosion radius and so hopefully i will be fixed with the new patch as well ;) go FMI...
     
  5. nitrous{e}

    nitrous{e} New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2005
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Wondered about this one but figured it meant gas and flame effect will appear to stick to players more when they've been gassed/flamed.

    FMI - any chance of a quick word on this??
     
  6. iddQd

    iddQd Yours truly

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2001
    Messages:
    1,219
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think it means gas clouds will look larger than before. This, maybe because in 1a the damage area felt bigger than the cloud itself. And about the flames, in 1a it only affected your vision if you looked straight down.
     
  7. IndianPsycho

    IndianPsycho Registered user

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2004
    Messages:
    570
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  8. nitrous{e}

    nitrous{e} New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2005
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for reply IndianPsycho :cheers:

    How about the gas nade tho? Has it been toned down on purpose? Is there any chance it will be beefed up again?
     
  9. [DF]phalanx

    [DF]phalanx bgutblower=true

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2002
    Messages:
    1,836
    Likes Received:
    0
    nooo no beefed up gas :(
     
  10. JaGo

    JaGo nbk-JaGo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2004
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    0
    Tech still has machine/rocket turrets as well as the all-mighty shotgun. Gas is perfect exactly the way it is in the current build, IMHO.
     
  11. Bleeder

    Bleeder Co-Founder, U2XMP [Ч] Clan

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2004
    Messages:
    803
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah if they leave the turrets silent but deadly as they are in the current build, it basically balances out with the weaker gas. But I hear that the turrets will not be silent anymore, and will be nerfed.

    Also, the gas in this build is actually pretty effective in small maps / closed quarters. It's just that it has nowhere near the radius and quick-spreading damage field that it had, for outdoor wide-open fights.
     
  12. JaGo

    JaGo nbk-JaGo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2004
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    0

    Bleeder,

    That has got to be the most rediculous thing I've ever heard you say. The turrets should be close to the effectiveness found in U2XMP. As far as that goes, I wish they had made it so you couldn't carry more than 2 turrets at one time forcing you to place them before reloading. Turret farming would be a thing of the past and then, god forbid, you would actually have to aim and shoot at someone to get points. I know that's not something you're accustomed to. :rolleyes:

    You swore you wouldn't play UTXMP. Any chance you'll keep your word?
     
  13. PRG

    PRG XMP Beta Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2003
    Messages:
    722
    Likes Received:
    0
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
     
  14. aeqos38/5

    aeqos38/5 The unusual immortal

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2005
    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree completely. Gas me up! ;)
     
  15. aeqos38/5

    aeqos38/5 The unusual immortal

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2005
    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    0
    Haha... prg, I never knew the name of your clan before, and always had this connection with Venereal Disease in my mind. Not a great connotation there! :lol:
     
  16. aeqos38/5

    aeqos38/5 The unusual immortal

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2005
    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    0
    Anyone who says gas is too strong in u2xmp is not a tech normally. Come on! Just challenge me!

    Haha... here come the excuses.
     
  17. GotBeer?

    GotBeer? The nozzle is now calibrating

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    2,862
    Likes Received:
    0
    Most people here will tell you, "gas spammage is for teh noobs!" or something like that.
     
  18. [DF]phalanx

    [DF]phalanx bgutblower=true

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2002
    Messages:
    1,836
    Likes Received:
    0
    as long is i got my XMP powered AR and EMP nades i'm good lol
     
  19. JaGo

    JaGo nbk-JaGo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2004
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    0
    Anyone who says "blah, blah, blah, is not a tech normally" has obviously never bothered to learn the other two classes. :rolleyes:


    And for your information, Tech is MY class. It's the class I learned to play from the beginning and it's the class I play the most.
     
  20. aeqos38/5

    aeqos38/5 The unusual immortal

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2005
    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    0
    Nice excuse. So serious too! :D
     

Share This Page