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Right, because someone putting a racist or inappropriate comment in their code has NEVER happened before
He apologized for it in the very next post:
... so no, this is not really a big deal.
Meh. This isn't the first time someone has whined about their first-world problems and someone else jokingly said "well, why not kill yourself?" This is the internet, people - shit like this is just going to happen. Zero fucks are given by me.
Leilei, by your logic, every Unreal map CliffyB ever worked on is bad and we should use console commands to skip them just because he's always been a cocky asshole.
Sorry, but no. Reality doesn't work that way. You can enjoy content a person has created and it doesn't mean you need to align your personal views on complex issues with theirs, or even like that person at all.
Personally, I think Sarge is pretty awesome, but whatever.
... Which is exactly why Brutal Doom is awesome (plus the increased spawns, enhanced weapons, iron sights, alt-fire modes, reloads, gib sprites, NC-DE HUD seen below, etc., etc.) Blowing legs off of Imps with a shotgun and then kicking them in the head while heavy metal is playing is a fantastic way to relieve stress
[SCREENSHOT]http://i.imgur.com/npeKZvg.png[/SCREENSHOT]
I don't use gzdoom or any HRP. I play with zdoom and the original sprites/textures. It's better that way.
Don't worry, I don't even think leilei knows what he's talking about.
Exactly.
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Woah careful guys we clearly have a hardcore Doom super pr0 in our midst here.
Brutal Doom is great. I don't always play it, but its sometimes fun to mess around and blow off some steam with. HD packs invariably look shit, though. Personally I use GZDoom with mouselook and such, but with filtering turned off. Generally I play megawads and stuff myself. I'm currently playing Memento Mori at the moment, its ok, but kind of simplistic and ugly looking, as is the case with a lot of early WADs. Still fun, though.
Doom is a fun game Still play it from time to time (well, more doom2 I guess). Last megawad I've played was Invasion2. Always enjoyed this one.
Haven't played dos doom in ages. Why bother with all those source ports lying around.
I think I switched to Zdoom back in 99, it was fun. Zdoom had f.e. jumping enabled... something I dearly missed out on in dos doom. And then there was boom, pboom, doomsday, Legacy (nice sp), Skulltag and so on...
Brutal doom can be real fun btw.
Still play it from time to time (well, more doom2 I guess). Last megawad I've played was Invasion2. Always enjoyed this one. Haven't played dos doom in ages. Why bother with all those source ports lying around.
I think I switched to Zdoom back in 99, it was fun. Zdoom had f.e. jumping enabled... something I dearly missed out on in dos doom. And then there was boom, pboom, doomsday, Legacy (nice sp), Skulltag and so on...
Brutal doom can be real fun btw.
It's still the best source port by most accounts, and is still under active development. The feature list is huge. It can even do true room over room.
If you want hardware acceleration, physicalized floors and ceilings, and other nice 3D features you can use GZDoom, which is ZDoom with a GL renderer.
The reality is that you can choose to filter what you take in by what you think of the person who makes it. You're rationalising the guy being a dick because you admire him, but other people don't have to make the same excuses.
Same goes for CliffyB, of course. Aren't there lots of people here who have been turned off Gears or Bulletstorm because of his console peasant attitude? It isn't black and white, but it's a factor in the balance.
wait.
who said that anyone "admires" the guy??
enjoying someone's work has literally nothing to do with admiring them personally or their privately held beliefs.
Er ... What? No, I think I was doing exactly the opposite, in fact. I don't consider the two examples leilei posted to be that big of a deal; who did it and how I feel about that person has nothing to do with it - they're just not a big deal, period.
What it boils down to is people need to stop overreacting on the internet.
No, that is an entirely different set of circumstances. Lots of people hate Gears and Bulletstorm because of their consolitis and Epic dumping on the platform that made them what they are, but that's also what the rest of the industry was doing at the time and Epic was simply following the trend. It wasn't one guy, it was the industry as a whole.
My CliffyB/Unreal example was much more relevant to the discussion.
. . . Well this sure turned into a clusterfuck.
Seriously, I make two simple comments and everyone starts raging.
Seriously, I make two simple comments and everyone starts raging.
. . . Well this sure turned into a clusterfuck.
Seriously, I make two simple comments and everyone starts raging.
It would have ended there had leilei not come in and made this thread his personal crusade against Doom mods and modders.
Nah, just a very big grudge against Mark and his personal army at ModDB. (who regularly bash anything not BD compatible)
It's ok, most people who regular ZDoom forums do.
you're not at fault here Jes.I make two simple comments and everyone starts raging.
I didn't even notice your reply until after saying my piece to Leilei.
it just struck me as ridiculous that he would come in here and basically accuse anyone who ever used Brutal Doom of (somehow) supporting the (alleged) personal views of the guy who made it; as if we all stood around and watched a woman get raped or drove the getaway car after a murder. we're not complicit in hate crimes, we just downloaded a mod. a fun little mod for a silly old game. I never even heard of the guy, like I honestly pay attention to the personal lives of the people who work on mods I've downloaded.
god damn ridiculous...
Yeah Gzdoom is great. First time I saw the "room over room" feature in doom, well it was hard to believe. Incredible what they've managed changing in Doom.
For example vox vehicle pack
And this Winter fury