Do you think Bin Laden is still on the run??

[Cyrus0305]

i was having a discussion with my family last night and we got on the topic "Do you think the us knows where bin laden is hiding?" I personally think we don't because if you think about it, he has all these underground tunnels and alot of look alikes. On the other hand my brother brought up a good point. "The press wouldn't tell the whole story." By the time we hear about the story from the middle east it has already been filtered and censored by what we can and cant hear. Could the government just be saying we don't know where he is so we when bin laden hears it he believes that the US has no idea where he is?
whats ur opinion ?????

 

[SpiritWalker]

he is most likely IMO... hiding in London.. having shaved his beard.. which will be funny when he is caught.. cause that violates his/their own laws..

I honestly don't think that we will catch him.. at least not for a year or so... if ever.. he will prolly be caught dead..

 

[Frostblood]

The likelyhood is he escaped and is no longer in afganistan. If he is still in the hills, he will be captured, but i think he probably escaped.

 

[Hourences]

underground tunnels and alot of look alikes.

ermmmmm where the hell do you see alot of look alikes ? it is not cause you cant make the differnce between a few arabian guys, that they can, its the same for us, we white people look all the same too for an outsider

 

[Cat Fuzz]

The possibility exists that we either have him captured or we know he's dead and the US isn't yet prepared to make a martyr out of him.

I think its a good thing that the press has limits in this. We don't need to know everything.

 

[Hourences]

they are hiding too much, things they dont tell are stuff that the attacks on afghanistan caused more civilian casulties(unable to type that then the number of casulaties in the wtc (and im not saying by this that the casualties in the wtc are less important or whateve,r but its just a fact, more people died in afghanistan treough the attacks), and stuff like soldiers that died, wrong targets by wich they shot a hospital and stuff like that, they dont tell you that, cause it doesnt fit in their warpropaganda, and thats wrong, if you give news, you GIVE news, and not only the news that looks ok for the cencoring rules

they dont need to show everything, things that could raise the hate against moslims or something, but they just hide stuff from above, wich is wrong

 

[GMotha]

Everyone knows, everybody's talking about it, but you won't see it on tv...
It's typical for this civilized world
At the end: who will care?

 

[Skorch]

Sure Hourance, that's true...but we wouldn't have our armies in the mideast at all if it weren't for the attack on non-combatants in New York...when they nailed our military targets, embassies and ships and the like...we did not declare all out war...when they killed civilians...NOW they all will die. This is the fargin' end of the filth that make up these organizations...

...And I'm thinking the end of the palistinians, too...the Arabs want to stop us?...go ahead and try.

 

[Hourences]

like we say in dutch *zucht*

 

[Frostblood]

About 1000 civilians died in afganistan compared to 7000 in the WTC, but comparing death rates is meaningless because the benefit of the american campaign is not that it "gets bin laden back", but that it liberates several million people from one of the most oppressive regimes imaginable.

 

[BangOut]

Originally posted by Frostblood
it liberates several million people from one of the most oppressive regimes imaginable.

and, it gets bin laden back

 

[Hourences]

not 1000, more like 6000

 

[Stilgar]

With all the bombs you've been chucking about, who's to say old Binny hasn't already been atomsied by one of those monstrous bunker busters... ? I mean, how would you know ? All that 'flushing' that's been going on is like trying to find a rat in an abandoned building with a bazooka.

KERPHOOMPH....In the blink of an eye..... no more Bin laden, and absolutely no evidence of his death.
What evidence is their that he's still alive ?
I'm too larthagic to go through the sea of propaganda looking for it.

Does the U.S still consider him a 'suspect' ? or is the majority convinced that he is the man.



I want the truth!


all together know...


You can't handle the truth!

 

[Hourences]

to get more on topic, i think theyll never find him, its just dunno, i just think it

 

[StoneViper]

Originally posted by Hourences


ermmmmm where the hell do you see alot of look alikes ?

yeah, and who would willingly try to look like him. That ugly piece of Goat fart cow dung. (no im not talking about you GoAt)

 

[QUALTHWAR]

I think i saw him working at a convenience store yesterday.

 

[Frostblood]

Hospital officials in afganistan said around 15 per day had died, which means about 1000. Thats only civilians so many more taliban troops may have died ( and some northern alliance got killed by american bombs... ), but even the taliban wern't claiming 6000 civilians dead.

Bangout : an eye for an eye makes the world blind. The american campaing was probably motivated by a desire for vengeance, which is not a good reason to kill 1000 civilians. Luckily, it also gets rid of the taliban, which is a side-effect but an extremely good one.

 

[Hourences]

i knew you would say that frost, but thats the hole point of discussion
point was, the tv isnt telling everything, the goverment says what they can tell or what not, you heard on your tv 1000, i heard on my tv 6000, we dont know wich one is right, but they are only saying half of it, constantly

 

[diddlysquat]

Okay, when someone unleashes a plague or chemical weapons in Brussels, or Paris, or where ever, and a few thousand of your fellow Europeans die a horrible lingering death, then you can show the crocodile tears for all those poor innocent civilians that have died in our struggle to free the Afghan people from the tyrants who supported the terrorists.

This is war, these aren't policeman trying to catch a few drug smugglers or the odd jaywalker. This is a military response to an action that was directed by elements within that country with at least the tacit approval of the government of that country.

I personally, and you will find most americans will agree, do not care if we kill, 5, 500, or 5000 Afghans, as long as we destroy the framework that supported the attacks that have, and will take place, against our civilization. Our military has, considering the amount of firepower we have unleashed, done an admirable job of keeping civilian casualties to a minimum. That is all we can do, and I say good job so far.

The only alternative is to do nothing, and let them strike us again and again. How many attacks like the WTC would be enough do you think, before you think it is worthwhile to strike back?
another 5000, 10,000, when they set off a nuclear device in Washington, or London, or Brussels?

It is sad, that innocents must be lost, and that we can not keep any civilians from being killed. However, innocent blood had already been spilled, on September 11, even before that, when the Taliban took over that country and set it's people under their perverted system of laws.( Women, having their lips cutoff for wearing lipstick, soccer stadium turned into an execution ground, people beaten and killed for lstening to music or trying to teach their little girls the ABC's.)

The funny thing is, these are the very sentiments, that allow these monsters to carry on, since the fear of shedding "innocent" blood has stayed our hand many times in the past, when we could have struck at these beasts.

Rant over, carry on.

 

[Hourences]

ill quit responding on this,
what you just said is that 1 american guy is worth a 100 afghans, that TOTAL crap