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Deus Ex...3?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by dotnetbeast, May 30, 2008.

  1. dragonfliet

    dragonfliet I write stuffs

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    Eh, don't feel bad. It was innovative, but it isn't good. The story is interesting but not good, the writing is terrible, the voice acting is terrible, the gameplay is mediocre, etc. It's a very important game and it really broke the mold and has influenced the use of RPG+FPS (though it has really taken a long time for people to really get to it, unfortunately) and it was a really interesting experience but as for the actual product, it doesn't hold up at all.

    ~Jason
     
  2. SleepyHe4d

    SleepyHe4d fap fap fap

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    Wait until the HDTP(models and model textures), New Vision(map textures) and Revision(new level design) mods come out for the game. That won't fix the voice acting though. :p

    Damn it, stop saying that, because you don't know. With that attitude you wouldn't like anything though. :mad:
     
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  3. M.A.D.X.W

    M.A.D.X.W Active Member

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    I think it's clear that it's more that just good or mediocre. Just because you personally didn't think it was great doesn't mean it wasn't.
     
  4. Rohit

    Rohit New Member

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    I played Deus Ex for the first time last year, and still loved it. I think it holds up quite well.
     
  5. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    Deus Ex was one of the best and, frankly, most influential games of the early 2000s. The story is actually decent, the writing was as interesting as they could make it, the voice acting was fine, it was the animations that couldn't convey that (which makes sense, again, given the time period).

    Still, it really hasn't aged well. My memories of Deus Ex are considerably better looking than the game actually is, and my memories of it aren't even that good looking :)

    Love those videos, there are some really funny ones on youtube.
     
  6. Bi()ha2arD

    Bi()ha2arD Toxic!

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    Isn't that exactly what you just did to Deus Ex? Saying its **** without playing it?
     
  7. Grobut

    Grobut Комиссар Гробут

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    No, it isen't, not really, and if you where to try and play it as a standard run'n'gun shooter, you'd be bitterly dissapointed.

    Technically it's an FPSRPG, but the term only fits loosely, it's more like a detective themed adventure game, mixed heavilly with RPG elements, and presented in a first person view, the game is not about combat at all, infact, the smart way to play it is to be as stealthy as possible and avoid combat as much as you can, a bit like NOLF2 or the Thief series in that respect.

    If you try playing it as a shooter, it's going to suck, hard, because you're doing it wrong, you haven't grasped how the game is played, and the game punishes you for it.
     
  8. Leo(T.C.K.)

    Leo(T.C.K.) Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's why I will be diappointed. The only good RPG system in FPS was in Daikatana, only simple boosts to your skills, or that UT3 RPG mod, it was enjoyable somehow too and not too complicated. But maybe beacuse both games are fast paced itself.
     
  9. xMurphyx

    xMurphyx New Member

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    Wait a second: How exactly do you imagine the RPG elements in Deus Ex?
     
  10. Leo(T.C.K.)

    Leo(T.C.K.) Well-Known Member

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    I imagine complcated menu system with some crappy GUI and loads of useless inventory and stuff and "professions".
     
  11. N1ghtmare

    N1ghtmare Sweet Dreams

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    You do objectives. You get points. You use those points to level up. It tells you how many more points you need for next level. How much more complex can it get?
     
  12. Synastren

    Synastren Explodious!

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    Apparently, you haven't even really investigated how the level up system works. Each skill is represented (Pistols, Lockpicking, Environmental Training [items], coughSwimming), and as you accrue points through exploration or completing objectives, you can increase those skills. For all skills, when you increase the level, you do that activity more efficiently. For Medicine, for instance, medical kits replenish more health. Weapon skills become more effective, as your shots are more accurate, do slightly more damage with each level, and you reload quicker. Higher level Lockpicking requires fewer lockpicks (as they are disposable), and you can pick locks faster. I'm sure you get the idea.

    The inventory wasn't too clunky, given that it uses the Diablo-style model (grid). It is large enough to do what it needs to do, and such. If you really have problems with the inventory, maybe you should play the PS2 port which eschewed the grid inventory to deal with weapon slots and such (e.g., one rifle class weapon, one pistol class weapon, etc.). Granted, I don't know much about the port, other than it was simplified (which you seem to be yammering on about being better), and somewhat suffered for it.

    Still, you seem to be determined to create a nice self-fulfilling prophesy, so don't let me stop you, I suppose.
     
  13. SleepyHe4d

    SleepyHe4d fap fap fap

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    Lol, this ignorance needs to stop, don't come back till you've played a couple hours of Deus Ex. :lol:
     
  14. Grobut

    Grobut Комиссар Гробут

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    I'll have to agree, this is getting silly, go play the game Leo, you may or may not like it, but atleast you will like/not-like it for real reasons.
     
  15. Leo(T.C.K.)

    Leo(T.C.K.) Well-Known Member

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    I was just responding to the questions. No I don't need to stop and you are not there to tell me to stop. I realize the skill system works like that, but still the GUI is crap and the method it is done imo. I actually was never much fan of RPG, the only RPG games I played I never finished and never went back, because they bored me at times. I actually found certain action packed RTS better or even adventures.
     
  16. theabyss

    theabyss No One Here Gets Out Alive

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    Yes you do, and that's exactly why he is there. :lol:
     
  17. Cowlike

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    Nothing wrong with not liking a genre, but I don't understand why you say its UI was crap.
     
  18. Leo(T.C.K.)

    Leo(T.C.K.) Well-Known Member

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    Who needs mouse and some UI to boost your stats etc? It is absolutelly out of place. Daikatana did it with simple keyboard keys. That is much better solution. Oh and the Deus Ex UI seems heavily inspired by UT UI and I think it is crap as well.
     
  19. M.A.D.X.W

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    OK. Shut up about it now. You're ruining the Deus Ex 3 Experience.
     
  20. Jacks:Revenge

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    I think your posts are crap.
     

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