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CliffyB: No Gears 2 For Windows

Discussion in 'News & Articles' started by hal, Aug 29, 2008.

  1. RoadKillGrill

    RoadKillGrill Got Lead?

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    I have to agree, even in beta QL is shaping up to be a great game. I'm very happy with it, cant wait til the public release.

    And I'm a UT player at heart.
     
  2. TheSomian

    TheSomian Freak

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    so sad =/ i wanted to buy GoW 1 but since there wont be GoW2, oh well... hm... isn't that bad, however... it means that GoW1 is the one and only GoW and GoW2 will be only console crap since it will never have been release on a good system (PC)...

    i liked the epic stuff so much, but i think ill just have to give everything (hope,...) up and keep playing UT2004, one of the best games ever made!
     
  3. KaiserWarrior

    KaiserWarrior Flyin' High

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    Don't get me wrong, Gears was not a bad game. Just not a great game. It was merely average, much like Kill.Switch (which it's a clone of). Hell, Kill.Switch had a more interesting story, at least there was intrigue as opposed to "RAR YOU GOT FALSELY ACCUSED AND THE ARMY IS COMPOSED OF *******S, BUT YOU HELP OUT ANYWAY FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY <INSERT MANLY FLEX HERE>"

    Basically, they're saying it wasn't worth it to port gears to PC because of the sales. And in a sense they're right, Gears simply isn't good enough to do well on the PC. It's the same reason Halo was successful; Halo was merely an average FPS, but on consoles it had no competition whatsoever and sold like hotcakes. On PC it failed because we'd seen it all before, and seen it better in many cases. The exact same happened to Gears. I played it through on PC (refuse to buy a brickbox 360), but it was nothing spectacular. Certainly not anywhere near as good as, say, Bioshock.


    I just get a kick out of them saying "BREAD AND BUTTER BREAD AND BUTTER BREAD AND BUTTER" and then turning around with "BIGGER, BADDER, MORE BAD-ASS AND ONLY ON CONSOLES LOL".
     
  4. dura1198

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    QFT!!
     
  5. Beelzebud (Satanas)

    Beelzebud (Satanas) New Member

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    If only they had taken the same mindset with UT3, in regards to the PC platform...
     
  6. q_mi_4_3

    q_mi_4_3 Target pratice for others....

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    If BU is really going to expand beyond Epic's games, Quake Live should be one of the first games they cover. Its the old school FPS free from HL and Halo influnce, and very much like UT99 (I like UT99 more than Q3, but I will like QL more than today's FPS).
     
  7. Anuban

    Anuban Your reward is that you are still alive

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    Halo did not fail on the PC, it did very well and actually people still buy it to this day. And imo Gears on the PC was far above the average and was probably one of the best PC shooters on the market. It even had higher res textures and the extra chapter ... but it was a little on the buggy side and the networking system they chose (Live) may have hampered sales. The game ran much better than Crysis (although I liked Crysis' gameplay a bit more), looked just about as good as any Shooter game around, and had tons of great action but for whatever reason people did not get into it. I think it was because CoD4, Crysis and UT3 all came out at around the same time as well ... plus people were playing The Orange Box and still playing Bioshock. Also it was not marketed at all when it came out on the PC ... I don't recall seeing any commercials for the PC version.
     
  8. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    No marketing = bad sales.

    We've seen it with UT3, as well.
     
  9. q_mi_4_3

    q_mi_4_3 Target pratice for others....

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    I dont know, I wouldn't think marketing is that important. Most PC gamers should be familiar with any pre-release titles through gaming sites, game-review sites or forums. I would think TV commercials and such would be for people for don't use the Internet. If you are thinking about online ads or something, I suppose those wouldn't hurt.
     
  10. Beelzebud (Satanas)

    Beelzebud (Satanas) New Member

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    UT3's beta demo did far more damage to its success than a lack of commercials.

    I don't remember seeing one commercial for the Orange Box, and yet TF2 has thousands of people playing it online ATM.
     
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  11. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    You really think that the UT3 demo was downloaded that much? I don't.
     
  12. Beelzebud (Satanas)

    Beelzebud (Satanas) New Member

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    Ever hear of Word of Mouth?
     
  13. Sir_Brizz

    Sir_Brizz Administrator Staff Member

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    No. :) According to most people on here, nobody uses internet forums.
     
  14. Apathy.

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    I saw quite a few advertisements for it on TV the night before it was released ;)
     
  15. Armagon917

    Armagon917 TOAST

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    Quake Live is going to be great. i think its awesome that id sat down and did this essentially thinking what is something we can do for PC thats a quick project and people will enjoy. its also a test which Carmack said in his keynote address as to weather id will make a sequel to Quake III Arena. i really like this way of thinking. instead of running to consoles they're testing the market for a sequel to that and getting Quake III Arena easily accessible and free on PC. win for id and for gamers.

    why not put out a Gears 2 multiplayer test for PC and proceed based on the results? content is already there and it could be handled by a small team. if polished something like that would take off. UT2004 demo anyone? my gripe is that EPIC has no intention of giving PC a chance. they release crap on PC IMO (if you liked UT3 more power to ya) but i thought it was crap. and then declare PC as dead, for Sims type games and MMOs. BS!

    EPIC's intentions are clear and beyondunreal is a really cool site. i enjoy hearing opinions from you all. so i see Gears 2 for 360 and Gears 3 for Microsoft's next gen console. i think until EPIC starts taking PC seriously again beyondunreal should be opened up to other IPs, advances in game technology and other things that interest gamers.

    i would just hate for this community to dry up because i really think its going to be quite some time before EPIC makes another PC game here. i estimate a minimum of 3 years before anything for PC is even considered with the way EPIC is acting. this is something i would like to see with this site. i think most of us are getting tired of the BS from EPIC and I don't want to see that hurt the community here.

    thoughts? good or bad idea?
     
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  16. nELsOn

    nELsOn bSnakeCastShadow = True

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    i thought a series like Unreal Tournament didn't need any marketing and ads until i was hanging around with a friend and it just happened that his brother had a couple of friends over (all like 4 years younger or something) and i wouldn't trust my ears but when we started talking about UT/Quake those guys were like 'uhm... what's Unreal Tournament? Quake---? never heard of that... is it something like Counter-Strike?'
    add to this that around the same time other games were released that were hyped like hell and pretty much overshadowed everything else. just look at Crysis.

    yes, i think midway did a very poor job marketing UT3 :( sure, there are other problems but with the right marketing i'm pretty sure UT3 would have been a much bigger success.


    what about that PCF title? PCF are pretty much part of Epic now, aren't they? it's not gonna be a PC exclusive but it has been announced for PC, so...

    opening up BU for other IP's and technology and stuff sounds like an interesting idea to me, though.
     
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  17. JaFO

    JaFO bugs are features too ...

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    but then BU would be just like all the other gaming-sites and they already got enough flak for daring to show Unreal-engine games that were console-exclusives ...

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    Quake live would sink harder than a rock if they did not give it away for 'free' ...
     
  18. Matfei

    Matfei [:«]Ω[»:]:Mױפקזג:]:

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    But the way id are going about the whole thing shows they still give a damn about PC.
     
  19. dura1198

    dura1198 New Member

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    Well...they ARE giving it away for free, but superb speculation on what they are NOT doing.
     
  20. Cryton

    Cryton Loafing Bast

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    And UT3 would sink harder than a rock even if they did give it away for free ;)
     

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