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UE3 - UT3 Character Model W1P + a kweschun

Discussion in 'Modeling & Skinning' started by ONe.21JiggaH4X, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. ONe.21JiggaH4X

    ONe.21JiggaH4X New Member

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    Hi I'm building a player model for UT3.
    this is a HiPoly model of his major armor structure. I made it last summer before the game came out. The head, hair and hands are final geometry for the game model.

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    and the concept. it was too daunting to draw the continuous flow of detail on the back and side images, so I freestyled it in 3d, resulting in my now problematic oodles of detail.


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    Right now the game model is over 10K triangles, because I'd like to keep the finer sculpted decoration like the shoulder, elbow and waist area multi-layered and open. I havent really experimented with how they'd look as solid geom, with just the normal map effect and darkness in place of the open spaces, but I'm in love with the way it looks Hi Poly, and would like to maintain that. Are Transparent textures allowed on UT3 models at all? I don't recall seeing any on any stock characters. That might be a way to save geometry and keep the multi-layered feel. The Final Body will not be empty inside, but I'd like some of the deco to stay spacious and intricate.
     
  2. Caravaggio

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    Alphas are in but they're causing some problems for people that may or may not be dealt with.
    I must say it's a bad ass model, can't imagine the headache it must have been to make it. But at the same time, yeah, I can't imagine it not being a further headache to normal map up. Is the non-smoothed model usable? You said just the head and the hair were final, but then said you were suing he finer parts of the shoulders?

    Sending good luck brainwaves your way.
     
  3. ONe.21JiggaH4X

    ONe.21JiggaH4X New Member

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    I just did some more tweaking, tho I have not welded my last vert, oh no.

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    I've decided to just fake the open areas with conjurer's tricks... ie Normal Mapping. I did a few tests in Zbrush and it's actually making me feel like a tard for Hi-modelling this far the old fashioned way. Definitely no prob to get the detail in. I'm going to steer clear of alphas, because if I ain't seen it working already in UT3, i'm not gonna use anything that will be another Jalapeno in the colon of this already irritable game.
    It's amazing how the fear of crap like "will my favorites still be there?" or "are my keybinds still in place?" is as intense as being pursued in CTF...
     
  4. amcculley

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    The waste seems a bit high, but it looks good. If you want to do some modeling for a cool Mod/TC, let me know. Modelers are the only thing we don't have, yet. Great work, man.
     
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    Just so you know, if you have a character with a ton of opacity/alpha maps, it's going to hurt performance quite a bit, sorta like dense vegetation does. :)
     
  6. Six Ways

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    It looks ace, but I would also say that in game, all those tiny details are likely to end up as indistinct visual noise. It's a great model but in all honesty I don't think it's going to translate to UT3 very well... :( sorry...
     
  7. JohnnySix

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    It's a great concept, and you've got some great detail so far , but in terms of baking down to normal maps, you could probably do with thickening up/highlighting the edges more so they're more pronounced.

    You could also add some detail to the large smooth sections you have there now, either some more panels/pattern/damage or some kind of filigree. As long as you keep it ~5px on the UVWs, it should reasonable from a distance, and awesome close-up.

    I'm guessing you're filling out the hollows with something inside, perhaps some really heavily textured object in the gaps would provide a nice contrast for all the smooth surfaces of the bandage-like structures?
     

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  8. ONe.21JiggaH4X

    ONe.21JiggaH4X New Member

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    Thanks for comments peeps!
    Yeah the hipoly hollow structure in first pic was/is really just a roughing out of the main weave of the surface. Should have had the internal Filler body object visible. All the interior holes are rounded by turbosmooth, since I didn't even refine far enough to tighten them up. I'm probably not going to use it after all except for reference when I Zbrush the normal map.

    As far as polywaste, it's very hard to decide what goes and what stays. I really want to keep the layered effect of each band flowing over and under itself. (Most parts are one continuous band) I began modelling with that in mind, but the count went too high too soon. I don't really have enough experience normal mapping a character to predict what areas can appear as I intend without any actual geometry structure. Guess I should just STFU and get crackin...
    tho after spilling a delicious mug of sweet coffee on my keyboard and wacom last night, I'm having many "human interfece device" issues today :( My right wacom function buttons seem to be perma-pressed, tho they physically click up and down as always. gotta fix this jive first.
     

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