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Bush finally decides to secure the southern border

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by DeeperShade, May 15, 2006.

  1. DeeperShade

    DeeperShade Banned

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    Makes perfect sense to me, as long as they have a plan to allow those illegals already in the country to apply for citizenship if they so wish.
    If you've got a border line, and it's being abused, you have to secure it. Otherwise you're leaving yourself open to a whole world of hurt.
     
  2. Nemephosis

    Nemephosis Earning my Infrequent Flier miles

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    About time they cracked down on it. It's called illegal immigration for a reason.
     
  3. Airmoran

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    No sh*t. Patroling the border? Sure. Using troops? Yeah, well, don't keep them around for too long.

    Goddamn unamerican La Raza and their near-terrorist agenda. :mad:
     
  4. gregori

    gregori BUF Refugee

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    US companies don't seem to mind jumping the border, taking advantage of cheaper labour and taxes in Mexico when it suites them, then selling the products back to the american market! Maybe borders for greedy money-making corporations needs to be policed.
     
  5. Big-Al

    Big-Al amateur de bière

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    canada should shot all americans aimlessly wondering around on their southern border.
     
  6. GotBeer?

    GotBeer? The nozzle is now calibrating

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    That's NAFTA for ya. Maybe if the Mexican gov't got off its ass and passed a minimum-wage law, or stricter regulations relating to benefits, working conditions, pollution, etc. US companies wouldn't be headed there in droves. It might also help with the illegal immigration problem-you know, decent wages and such.
    You mean the ones trying to get cheap Canadian meds?
     
  7. gregori

    gregori BUF Refugee

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    Somehow I think neither the US goverment nor US corporations are going to let anything vaguely socialist like that, to happen! I do recall US gov backing a coup against socialist Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, the democratically elected president! All because Venezuela endangered America's demand to a cheap oil supply at the cost of that country, its economy and its poor!
     
  8. Larkin

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    Sending the National Guard to the border won't work! There isn't enough of them to stop illegals from coming in. Furthermore, the bigger problem is that they can get jobs here is the U.S. If they couldn't get jobs here, they wouldn't have any reason to come over the border in the fist place. So I think the attention of the government should be toward the employers hiring these individuals. Maybe a huge fine, something that would hurt bad.
     
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  9. GotBeer?

    GotBeer? The nozzle is now calibrating

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    That and the land-grab/redistribution.
     
  10. JaFO

    JaFO bugs are features too ...

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    Perhaps the USA could pass a law that limits the cost of medicine ...


    altough that's probably less likely to happen as the Mexican government passing a minimum-wage-law.

    btw : Bush might want to ask the former East-German government on how to secure a border. They've got plenty of experience in using licenced murderers as a police-force.
     
  11. Justin286

    Justin286 Smooth Criminal

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    As it is, American companies in America have no problem abusing illegal immigrants when it suits them. When the illegals immigrants went on march earlier this month, large companies like Tyson Foods and Perdue Farms had to close some plants because of worker shortages.
     
  12. [IsP]KaRnAgE

    [IsP]KaRnAgE You Can Be My Wingman

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    Missle tower, bunker w/some marines and a firebat and one siege tank every 2 miles.
     
  13. ZenPirate

    ZenPirate Living Legend (and moderator)

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    With what guns? *We* are armed.
     
  14. Harlock

    Harlock Married And Always Nagged

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    When what exactly is the purpose of our National Guard? Is our National Guards job to be doing International work in Iraq? I think the term National sort of implies that we use them to guard the US from invaders. So, the US is using them exactly as they were intended.
     
  15. Airmoran

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    Something tells me that wasn't what the Senator was getting at. A sudden and large increase in armed patrols along borders probably will only stretch things out in the long run.

    Also, what a real invading army the illegal immigrants have turned out to be. :rolleyes: There's a slight difference between border jumping and an invasion, but hey, if you need to demonize them before you feel good about yourself, then what can I say?
     
  16. Justin286

    Justin286 Smooth Criminal

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    Maybe because some people think it's the Border Patrol's job to do it?
    Naah. Couldn't be.
     
  17. DeeperShade

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    Why do i get the feeling that you want to just let absolutely anyone in and once then in, treat them like gods?
     
  18. Airmoran

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    Eh, I'm more in favor of people not treating others like **** more-or-less because we're not in harm's way.

    Not like I'm in favor of opening borders to anyone who feels like it, but treating the ones that are in with absolutely no regard to their well being is swelling with some of the strongest racism I've seen (and for that matter, been victim of) since the '92 race riots. 'Cept this time around, the central targets are illegal by default, so hey, the hate is apparently justified.

    Labeling supporters of illegal immigrants as "unamerican" is getting pretty silly, too. Apparently La Raza members aren't Americans. Latinos, and to a lesser degree all minorities, have become "less American" in the past few months over this issue. Crap like that is probably the central issue I care about. The rest is mostly just current events.

    Edit: yikes, typo there totally changed the stance I was going for.
     
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  19. Larkin

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    I don't think people back in '92 or now have anything against their race. I think it's always been about the illegals. But I guess there was and is some people that have a problem with race. Those Individuals should be ashamed!
    I haven't heard of the '92 race riots so I can't say anything about that or what happened.

    Do you treat a criminal with respect or care what he says, I don't. Well that is if he is guilty, and the illegals are guilty. So the people that support them should be treated like crap and why not call them unamerican. Sounds good to me.
     
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    If your talking about cheap meds then I don't see the harm in people coming in, buying them, and leaving again. As long as they have a passport.
     

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