Bush and freedom.......

[The_Pikeman]

Well good to see that Bush is serious about spreading freedom and peace in the nations he decideds are run by evil dictators that have a iron grip on the media.

From the guardian:

Al-Jazeera demands answers after claim that Bush wanted to bomb headquarters

A senior executive of the Arabic news channel, al-Jazeera, is seeking an urgent meeting with Tony Blair over a report that George Bush discussed bombing the satellite channel's headquarters in Qatar.

Wadah Khanfar, al-Jazeera's director general, is flying to Britain this weekend after newspaper reports that President Bush made the comments during a face-to-face meeting with Mr Blair at the White House on April 16 last year.

Mr Bush's alleged comments about bombing al-Jazeera's building in Doha are reported to be contained in a note of the meeting. The attorney general, Lord Goldsmith, has warned newspapers they could be charged under the Official Secrets Act if they publish further material from the note. In the Commons yesterday, the Liberal Democrat MP David Heath said Lord Goldsmith had threatened editors with the Official Secrets Act to prevent government embarrassment rather than protect national security. The attorney general's warning was "not on the grounds of national security but on the grounds of potential embarrassment to the prime minister or to any presidents he happens to have conversations with", he said.

Geoff Hoon, the leader of the Commons, replied that Lord Goldsmith had a "legal responsibility". He added: "It is done only in certain limited circumstances. But it is an important power that needs exercising from time to time.

The White House meeting, in April 2004, took place at a time British officials and military commanders were appalled by US tactics in Iraq, particularly the assault on Falluja. Pictures shown on al-Jazeera of the attack infuriated US generals, who accused the station of broadcasting anti-US propaganda. General Kimmet, the US commander, was reported to have demanded the removal of al-Jazeera journalists from Falluja.

Good to see our goverment is acting responsably too, banning all further reporting just incase it embarrasses the goverment. What a wonderfull world we live in. Bombs away lads.
-How.

 

[BTH]

freedom of killing
to make other people have the right to kill too

 

[geogob]

I wonder when someone will decided to actually do something. Now would be a good time for something like economic sanction, moving the UN to a more decent place (a place that actually cares about them), etc.

From what I see, the arab country where probably better our with Mr Hussein. At least he didn't use chemical weapons against his people in more then a decade. Nice to see the us forces caught up with this way of doing things.

 

[yurch]

Hey, it's nothing they haven't done before.

 

[Pipe_Dream]

I wonder when someone will decided to actually do something.

not soon e-fukn-nough. I really hate that fukn guy

 

[AlmostAlive]

Just bomb them all to hell and be done with it.

 

[BTH]

em, who?

 

[TheShiningWizard]

Gesundheit.

 

[Arethusa]

Freedom is delicious?

 

[Rostam]

Not sure what disgusts me more, the fact that there aren't mass demonstrations DAILY about all the crap going on right now, or the fact that I'm not doing anything either.

But one day I'm going to try and do my part. Hopefully there will be something left fighting for by then.

 

[Cap'n Beeb]

Yeah, because demonstrations totally work.

 

[Derelan]

everyone wants peace, but some people will kill to get it.

 

[Nukeproof]

Bush's definition of freedom is to bomb da sh!t out of everyone stepping his toe.

 

[Harrm]

So I was watching the History Channel yesterday, and they had a segment on Bush, which was odd considering that their normal programming consists of the ethic "Okay, so how much more Hitler can we show before this gets tired?" One of the quotes I got from that particular show was "[The Presidents'] intelligence is an emotional intelligence...he know's how to size people up...knows how to find their weaknesses."

Last time I checked, emotional intelligence doesn't build skyscrapers.

I got to thinking, if he knows so much about other peoples' social weaknesses and so little about economics and money, why the hell is he leading our country? I mean, sure, that's a great thing to have as a politician, but that's also a great thing to have if you're a crack dealer.

Also, one can notice that as this whole affair has dragged on, Bush's stuttering problem while in the public eye has only gotten worse and worse. If that's not a surefire sign that he's losing confidence of his actions in the public eye, I dont know what is.

--Harrm

EDIT: I'm not a Bush hater. I'm an Army man myself and I'm actually pro-Bush.

 

[Pipe_Dream]

EDIT: I'm not a Bush hater. I'm an Army man myself

Dear Harrm,

I love you man, but these two things have little or nothing in common. This man, Mr. Fuktard Bush, has nothing to do with the Army. In fact, when it was his time to be a part of a war, he squatted in the National Guard and went AWOL and then lied about it.

How many of his family members a currently serving? Where are those two sluts of his? I mean, shouldn't his family donate a soul for their fortune? This guy is full of ****. He let his VP fabricate "truth" to pay for a second term in office. Sad, but true.

I have a cousin and a brother-in-law currently serving, one in the AF and the other in the Army and neither of them like this piece of sh1t. My brother-in-law has been to Kuwait twice (he's there right now) while my sister has to take care of their two kids by herself, why?

Yes, I agree that if you enlist then you have no right to b1tch about where you get deployed, but they were not deployed for a legitimate reason. It was a LIE and a lot of people have already died for this BS.

It's hard for me to digest the fact that thousands of Iraqi civilians are dying because of this BS. So far, we have probably murdered 1000+ times as many civilians in Iraq as Al-Queda did Americans on 9/11 and Iraq had nothing to do with anything. Sh1t, two days ago we celebrated the Native American Holocaust. Yes, another fine example of the Great American Hypocrisy.

Sincerely,

P. Diddle

P.S. I respect your opinions.

 

[Nukeproof]

I totally agree with Pipe here.

Bush claiming to be a friend of the army is nothing but a cheap move to get some sympathy aka votes.

And btw. as Michael Moore discovered, only 2 members of the entire congress (or was it parliament) have relatives actually serving in the army. It's always the young and poor fighting old men's wars.

 

[5eleven]

Blah blah blah, I watch Michael Moore movies, blah blah blah, Cindy Sheehan is a great American Patriot, blah blah blah, distorted facts and figures, blah blah blah.

While there are legitimate gripes and concerns about the president and the administration, as there are with ANY administration, your points are well.............fucking stupid. He should "donate a soul" for their "fortune"? What the hell are you talking about? That doesn't even make any sense. Really. Think about what you said. I realize you have some emotional attachment to this war, but that is utterly retarded.

And btw. as Michael Moore discovered, only 2 members of the entire congress (or was it parliament) have relatives actually serving in the army. It's always the young and poor fighting old men's wars.

It was Congress, the US version of a parliamentary body. This idea that elected officials in Congress don't have the right to vote on or support a war unless their children are in it, is just dumb. Thank you Mr. Moore. You're such a wizard. Pull another spectacularly ignorant statistic out of your fat ass. Here's an idea if someone can actually find the numbers: Take the population of the United States. Determine what the percentage of the population is that is currently in the military serving IN THEATRE in Iraq. Determine the percentage. Then take the total numbers of the members of Congress and apply the same percentage, and see if elected representatives actually represent the constituency of the United States. That would be a much more interesting figure, IMO.

**EDIT** I almost forgot: Who in the hell wants old rich men fighting wars? Guaranteed loss.

Along the same lines Pipe, I'm sorry that your sister has to take care of the children. I truly am and I'm being serious. It sucks. It's horrible, and I wish her husband safe return. But regardless of what they think of the president, (who likes their boss anyway, and there is no requirement to like your Commander-In-Chief, only that you respect the position) they ENLISTED. WE ARE AT WAR. I'm sorry that they have to be deployed, I'm sorry that they have to do extended and repetitive tours. Had they wanted a job that would keep them at home, perhaps they should have signed on to something less.....how do I say it? MILITARY. And regardless whether you think that their deployment is for a legitimate reason, or frankly whether THEY think it's a legitimate reason, it doesn't matter. They are where they are and it is what it is.

we have probably murdered 1000+ times as many civilians in Iraq as Al-Queda did Americans on 9/11

Do you mean killed or murdered? Sorry, I don't think flying a plane into a building compares to being a casualty in a combat zone. I just don't agree.

I respect your opinion too, Pipe. And I'm not too happy about the war myself. But I don't have the answer and I don't profess to have the answer. What sickens me more than the war in Iraq is the political fighting that I watch on the news daily. The jockeying for position, the lies, the half-truths, the undignified comments and speeches, the resolutions with no substance, the spin, all of it. I'm sick of all of it.

 

[Inf idiot]

the thing is when you demonstrate you get riot police after you.... damn government....

 

[Rostam]

Do you mean killed or murdered? Sorry, I don't think flying a plane into a building compares to being a casualty in a combat zone. I just don't agree.

I'd say there is a difference to those actually doing the job (soldiers vs omg terrists), but the ones really responsible are the same on both sides.

On top of that, I don't think there is a big difference between flying a plane into a building and a casualty in a combat zone. Most importantly, it doesn't matter to the dead guy.

But the war is much more sickening than this. US soldiers have been deprived of sleep to cloud their judgement and increase trigger happiness, and people bunching up are the target of aerial missions. And that's just what I know, there must be much more to it than this. Compare this to the abuse of hate and possible brainwashing that the omg terrists are doing, and you will be torn. Ever questioned if 'we' are the good guys? Ever questioned, if there are any good guys at all...? Edit: I'm using this term because it's what so many people naturally assume, and never question. It might seem childish, but think about it.

I'm trying to do my part by not hurting anybody on purpose. That way atleast I won't be able to be abused. But then on the other hand, not many people got very far this way.

 

[BTH]

a pisstake television poll desguised as a serious poll, the results are stunning:
http://www.yonkis.com/media/wheretoattack.wmv

this is the kind of people giving Bush wings, i hope it's just a small minority of the american population... please tell me it is