Bayonets?
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Yep, the .380 MAC is the Ingram M11. The M10(or MAC10) comes in .45ACP or 9mm Luger. Dont know about their fire rate though - but 1600rpm for a .45/9mm seems a bit high, but then it only has a very short barrel..
Wouldn't like to carry one in battle though - accuracy can't be replaced by ROF, since you would have to carry more ammo AND (like ShakKen always says) shot placements is important. I hope the times are over, where people think holding an automatic weapon in the rough direction of the target and emptying the mag is enough to hit anything..
Snakeye
Wouldn't like to carry one in battle though - accuracy can't be replaced by ROF, since you would have to carry more ammo AND (like ShakKen always says) shot placements is important. I hope the times are over, where people think holding an automatic weapon in the rough direction of the target and emptying the mag is enough to hit anything..
Snakeye
1600 or 1200, that clip is never going to last long enough to make that much use. And it isn't very good if you have to reload ever 3 to 5 seconds.
BTW what is CQB?
BTW what is CQB?
Suppose that thing has a 30rd(think standard are 32 or so..) at 1200rpm the mags gone in 1.5secs sustained fire. Looks like that would be good for two bursts and a reload - and as I learned in INF: reloading takes time; usually the time a bot needs to go round the corner and kill me.
I'll stay with my SIG551 & single shot or 3rd-burst..
Snakeye
I'll stay with my SIG551 & single shot or 3rd-burst..
Snakeye
yeah standard clip for the MAC 10 is 32
and in bursts it's not that bad a weapon, although its always hard to control yourself while firing full auto, everyone knows that
and in bursts it's not that bad a weapon, although its always hard to control yourself while firing full auto, everyone knows that
Then again at 10m range ROF indeed makes up for accuracy, I mean shot placement is not THAT important if you put 32 rounds in him in 1.5 seconds
Yeah, but you empty the clip, and then you're a sitting duck until you reloaded. In that close quarters, you generally don't have time to aim all that good anyway, and the Macs short lenght and low weight enables you to whip it around fast, much like a pistol, compared to a longer MP5 or M4.
Base, a sitting duck from what? At the ranges a mac10 or m11 would be used for:
-shot placement really doesn't matter due to the insane ROF
-there won't be anybody running after you once you have swung the weapon in their general direction whilst firing I'm quite positive that if your surroundings suddenly explode into a hail of bullets you are not going to run after him immediately even IF by some miracle you weren't hit.
Ofcourse compared to any SMG's it simply is pretty much useless and even compared to some PDW's in house clearing it would work rather nicely.
-shot placement really doesn't matter due to the insane ROF
-there won't be anybody running after you once you have swung the weapon in their general direction whilst firing
I'm quite positive that if your surroundings suddenly explode into a hail of bullets you are not going to run after him immediately even IF by some miracle you weren't hit.Ofcourse compared to any SMG's it simply is pretty much useless and even compared to some PDW's in house clearing it would work rather nicely.
A sitting duck for the guy behind the corner, who has a CAWS and is really pissed off you just fragged his buddies..
Snakeye
Snakeye