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Balton · Mar 3, 2005

ReD_Fist said:
hehe,,,well around here they would be freaking.

BTW (off topic) just wondering,is there still a difference overthere from the "east" to "west" did things really get better or is it still kinda separate.
One really would'nt know unless they live there,seems like it would be hard to blend the sides after such a long time.

And a while back you said you went to some army thing for 2 weeks or somthing like that,is the army or whatever it is, a mandatory thing or,how big is the army,or is it all volunteer.Just curious,it isn't all that crucial to know and look through the web,but ,anyway..was wondering ever since you said that,i do remember you said you hated it though.

I'm posting this in a separate thread so I wont go off topic in the relgious debate thread.

There are still some differences between east and west. the biggest is probably the weaker economy in the east. East Berlin on the other hand is doing very well.
There is still some separation in mind. I've especially noticed this at the army where most recruits were easties.
It's not as worse as it may sound, it's just slightly noticeable.

Well, I was for five weeks in the army(I was almost done with bootcamp : / ) . In germany every male between the age of 18 and 23 has to do either community service or army service. each service takes up 9 months.
But here comes the big BUT. Every possible canditate has to go through a physical examination wether you're suitable for such 'hard (

) labour or not.
So, if you really dont want to do one of the two things you dont have to.

I had a positive drug test on THC, marijuana. That's why they sent me after a looong waiting time to a psychologist. It didnt matter what I told him, since I could decide on my own wether I wanted to stay or not from the point on when my bases doc mistook cannabis for a hard drug (luck).
I would've stayed in the army if they hadnt told me in advance where they were going to put me after bootcamp.

Heh... even on my ride to the army hospital where I had my appointment with the psychologist my driver (who was in the same unit I was going to be) was telling me how bad it is there and that bootcamp is a cakewalk compared to that unit.

Community service is the thing to do :tup:
lots of prejudices towards it(though they are fading) but I can wholeheartedly recommend it. I'm jobbing at a hospital currently doing bureau stuff and there are alot of Zivis(thats how community service guys are nicknamed). Community service can give you some intresting insight into life.

ReD_Fist · Mar 3, 2005

heh around here kids nowdays NEED some community service or a spanking or somthing.I was a 70's kid and went from a christian school to public,and let me tell you it's all about if you show up,not being tought anything.
Schools keep asking for more money,kids keep getting dumber or more selfish,a little community service would at least make them think there is more to things than Halo or some stupid cartoon or sitcom on tv.

Balton · Mar 3, 2005

ReD_Fist said:
heh around here kids nowdays NEED some community service or a spanking or somthing.I was a 70's kid and went from a christian school to public,and let me tell you it's all about if you show up,not being tought anything.
Schools keep asking for more money,kids keep getting dumber or more selfish,a little community service would at least make them think there is more to things than Halo or some stupid cartoon or sitcom on tv.

the fault's mostly with the parents. Parents should teach their kids some meaningful things. Parents who need to spank in order to straighten their kids up suck aswell and usually fail. It all wasn't so bad if Barney and the teletubbies wouldnt have to do mum and dad's job.

Cat Fuzz · Mar 3, 2005

Balton said:
the fault's mostly with the parents. Parents should teach their kids some meaningful things. Parents who need to spank in order to straighten their kids up suck aswell and usually fail. It all wasn't so bad if Barney and the teletubbies wouldnt have to do mum and dad's job.

Dude, you so do not know wtf you are talking about.

Balton · Mar 4, 2005

Cat Fuzz said:
Dude, you so do not know wtf you are talking about.

sez catfuzz :lol:

oosyxxx · Mar 4, 2005

spanking created a small amount of fear in me but didn't change my desires one bit.

oosyxxx · Mar 4, 2005

oh, and lol@when spanking reaches the point where your children just start to laugh at and mock you

Mister_Prophet · Mar 4, 2005

My parents spanked me. But I deserved it.

No the real problem isn't that the kids are selfish. Or that parents don't know wtf they are doing (though that's part of it). No, there is only one thing to blame for the downward trend kids tend to fall into nowadays.

And that thing is obviously the Jews.

Balton · Mar 4, 2005

Mister_Prophet said:
My parents spanked me. But I deserved it.

No the real problem isn't that the kids are selfish. Or that parents don't know wtf they are doing (though that's part of it). No, there is only one thing to blame for the downward trend kids tend to fall into nowadays.

And that thing is obviously the Jews.

Krutzhatzlige Judebande!!! Alle Miteinadnrr!

militaryspetproject · Mar 4, 2005

I still just cant believe that someone took a question red fist posted as serious.

Dying_corpse · Mar 4, 2005

My parents never hit me. And i play violent video games and take pleasure in seeing a video of someone falling face first on the concrete. But I never stole (warez/mp3 not included) and I am able to use my brains like when i'm FSL and am able to make a bong out of anything. I'm a mcguyver smoker.

Kantham · Mar 4, 2005

militaryspetproject said:
I still just cant believe that someone took a question red fist posted as serious.

Same here.

Nachimir · Mar 4, 2005

I can accept that. I just can't believe it was Balton

Evil_Cope · Mar 4, 2005

lol, good point.

Still, we've chased off far too many people simply for being noobs, this is a refreshing change.

Evil_Cope · Mar 4, 2005

Nice to see Mil has been working on her thread derailing, btw.

oosyxxx said:
spanking created a small amount of fear in me but didn't change my desires one bit.

I think this is very close to the official thinking behind smacking-is-no-use.

It generally seems that the more a kid needs a good smack, the less point there is giving it one.
(that said, passing laws against it is just pandering for votes, imo)

oosyxxx · Mar 4, 2005

my question about RF: how did he get red on his fist?

Kantham · Mar 4, 2005

oosyxxx said:
my question about RF: how did he get red on his fist?

Pervert tossing / red ejaculator. :con:

Zarkazm · Mar 5, 2005

I don't think a little spanking is bad. Kids aren't nice and respectful by default, and I don't believe they can learn respect without learning a certain measure of fear beforehand.
I keep hearing this bull**** about kids threatening their parents or bullying them into buying them expensive stuff. We really have a problem with the state destroying the parents' authority.
When children lose respect of their parents it's not because they were spanked, that's a ridiculous whiny pseudo-liberal claim. There is a difference between a justified punishment and needless violence. Most kids know if they deserve punishment. It's when they are punished for no good reason that they lose respect, because they realize it's their parents who are doing wrong, not themselves.

SpiritWalker · Mar 5, 2005

Balton said:
sez catfuzz

sez me as well.

I was actually beaten on a weekly schedul. No matter what I did. And when I actually did do something worth punishing, the beatenings took on epic proportions. My mom would occasionaly lose it badly and the belt was turned around and I had to play dodge the buckle.

I have 2 kids (4and2) and have never hit them. Talked to them, taken away things. But never hit them. Hitting doesn't solve anything other than "you get pain for doing this.. from the people that you belive would never hurt you."... Teaching.. instruction.. talking.. understanding..patience.. those are the things that should have taken place of the belt/switch/backhand. I still remember the one time I lost my temper and really raised my voice to my son. I will never forget the look on his face. Why did I raise my voice? I had a rough day at work and forgot to leave the unimportant stuff at the front door. If people would place family where it belongs half the crap that goes on in this world.. wouldn't.

Rukee · Mar 5, 2005

mental abuse is just as much as a problem, if not more so, then physical abuse. It`s just as hurtfull if not more, but leaves no noticable marks. Some of the things that came out of my fathers mouth you wouldn`t hear anywhere.
Physical abuse may not be right, but swift backhands sure did change the way I acted around the house, and the way I acted out out of the house. Not saying it`s right or wrong, but it did help make me who I am today.

I never raised a hand to my kids either, but times and kids are changed from what I remember too, alot of the times, I deserved it, ......I quess. The grandson is soo much diffrent then I was at his age, I was a hell raiser, but then again, that might have been acting out frustrations built up from an abusive homelife too.

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