Jessica Lynch

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Jessica Lynch

  • Hero to be honored?

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • Coward to be shamed?

    Votes: 4 80.0%

  • Total voters
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GoAt

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she is a fsking whore. she need to suffer the same punnishment as the army sgt who is being courtmarshled for being a coward.


if possible, i would like to keep this thread on the topic of jessica lynch, please no country bashing, or anti war/military remarks.
 

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Cat Fuzz said:
Geez, Goat. Kinda harsh, doncha think? The girl was injured and unconcious in a severly wrecked Hummer then was taken prisoner.


the full story that you either missed or refused to hear, is that her Hummer flipped. her and her group were ambushed. while everyone in the hummer was shooting trying to stay alive, her gun jams. and instead of recylcing the round, she got on her hands and knees and started praying.
she LET those around her die. and she failed to protect the supply lines that she was assigned to. deriliction of duty.

you are trained in the Army to know what to do when your weapon jams.


what about the marine who was picking off Iraqi's who were launching mortars at his troops? his weapon jammed repeatedly forcing him to recycle every round fired. why wasnt he glorified on the TV? cause he isnt a good-looking blonde from middle america.
 

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Does anyone even know what happened? It seems there is a multitude of different stories.
 

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Cat Fuzz said:
The latest version that I heard was that they came under attack, the driver lost control and slammed into a jack knifed Army semi-truck at high speed. Everyone in the Hummer was unconcious or dead on impact.


WRONG

why dont you watch the interview with her and diane sawyer.
 

Cat Fuzz

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GoAt said:
WRONG

why dont you watch the interview with her and diane sawyer.


I saw part of that, where she denied taking out a bunch of the enemy. I also saw the recreation of the attack and resulting crash of her Hummer. The fact is, she doesn't think she's a hero (even though she is, simply because of her service). Its the media that has glommed onto her and tried to sensationalize her capture and rescue.

Besides, Diane Sawyer is an elitest ho. :D
 

Cactus

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didn't anyone see my thread from a while back? jeez...

i wouldn't say she was a coward. but i'll say this, there's lots of guys who should be on TV over her. she's nothing special. she was unconscious for most of the firefight, and that's the only reason why i don't say she's a coward. it's hard to categorize the unconscious as being cowards. likewise it's hard to categorize the unconscious as being heros. which means she CERTAINLY doesn't deserve a million dollar book deal, every TV station in the country FAWNING over her, and get movies made left and right.

however, there must be country bashing here. not really country, but pentagon. although i for one would like to see the military be... well, the MILITARY, free of politics and DEFEND the country, it is unfortunately a political body that bows to the whim of a civilian leadership wrapped up in image, spin, and politics. this is an unfortunate state for the military because it reduces its effectiveness if it is allowed to be politicised. the military should fight when asked to, withdraw when ordered to. it is hte military, it should do this to the LETTER.

with that said, the reality is that the pentagon is a political organism, and it is trying to justify its own existence. it recognizes that public opinion is shifting against it, and so it MADE jessica lynch a hero. think about it, a unit of the most highly trained militarymen in the world, armed with enough ammunition to overthrow Qatar, goes into an iraqi hospital that doesn't have even ONE iraqi soldier defending it, to "rescue" lynch from doctors that not only didn't stand in their way, but led the soldiers TO HER... and all the while, they were conveniently carrying cameras that taped the adventure start to finish. i'm sorry is it SOP to give cameras to soldiers? no, it was all footage needed to boost morale. and it was GOLD. i mean, the fact taht not one person was hurt, not one shot was fired, made people believe in the invincibility of the american forces. nevermidn the fact that no shots were fired because tehre was no one to shoot...

what else did the pentagon do? they reported that lynch was fighting tooth and nail, with stab wounds and bullet wounds, shooting at iraqis to her last bullet. well now we know that the person that actually did that was a sargent walker, who was killed and buried in a shallow grave. yet the pentagon let the word out, and probably after it learned the truth, allowed the rumour to propogate itself, making everyone think, "wow, that good ol' american gal fought for every inch..." then reality-man intervenes and says, "wait, how can she fight tooth and nail with a jammed gun and a strong aversion to the cognative state?" the pentagon SHAMELESSLY propogated the story, and when it learned that sargent WALKER was the one who fought so hard against the iraqis, rather than tear down the myth of jessica lynch, they kept it quiet, so that nobody KNEW aobut walker, unless you're a bitter angry lunatic like myself.

what i think is the grosser atrocity here isn't that jessica lynch was a coward, she was nothing of such, but it was the dispicable fact taht the pentagon KNEW that it was walker who gave his life defending his fellow soldiers, and then didn't publicize it. i think that the 1 million dollar book deal for jessica isn't so much an affront to his memory and his family as the fact that the pentagon quietly forgot and chose to disregard the service and the honor he brought to the marine corps.

i salute walker, and shame on rumsfeld's cronies for spitting on his grave.
 
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Twrecks said:
About as well as spending sixty grand a year to intern a criminal.
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ThomRed

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Sgt. Walker fighting against the morter attack was a Hero, not Lynch. Anyone see the TV movie about Lynch? The Ad's compared the opening fight to almost as good as Black Hawk Down. What bull, it was almost like every man for himself when the shooting started.
 
I was first tuned into this whole thing by Cactus in the other thread, and concur that this is just all propaganda.

I don't consider Lynch a hero, she is just a poster girl for war-support stuff. It isn't her fault, and it sucks what happened to her. Yeah, she is brave for going through what she did, she was anally raped too, if you guys knew that. But hero? Patrick Miller was more of a hero, he actually saved the lives of his fellow troops, and that other guy who died fending off a bunch of screaming Iraqis. She is just a kid caught up in the moment, it is the media that I think has turned this matter into a disgusting, money-snatching freak show. The two "competing" network movies about Lynch and Elizabeth Smart was the final nail in the coffin for my interest. I don't care anymore. I've moved on, let the rest of America cry when they watch "Saving Private Lynch", I'll be sitting here playing video games until they make the movie about Patrick Miller, the guy who wasted all his ammo shooting Mortar wielding Iraqis and then runs over the enemy in his truck when he is out of rounds (saving several of his own troops who were pinned down), who then gets captured and gets beaten by his captors as he relentlessly sings country songs and curses at his jailers.
 

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Mister_Prophet said:
she was anally raped too, if you guys knew that.

The Iraqi doctors who treated her claim that if that had happened, she'd have died of her injurys, and strongly deny that ever happening.
 

Cactus

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yeah, i'm also likely to believe the iraqi doctors over the "retelling of memoirs by a hired pen from the new york times." since the doctors were the first ones to treat her, and by her own accounts, they were very good to her. she talked about a nurse who sang her to sleep. the doctors also led the soldiers to her. along those lines, it seems the doctors were quite cooperative, and it doesn't seem they have much incentive to go about lying about it. it's possible taht she was raped but they didn't notice it because they were treating her for shock and a concussion, etc. but if you're a trained doctor, you're likely to notice these things after you've had a patient for three days.

what irks me was first the fact taht this guy was at the NYTimes, and much as i love the times, they've been having credibility issues, e.g. jason blair. it's possible that this account was purely fiction by that sneaky media again. the reason i say this is that i'm a history man, i read a lot of historical text, and a good historian always footnotes and endnotes carefully, and provides specific documents to backup every claim. i wrote a history paper that was 15 pages, with 3 pages of endnotes. the person who wrote the book, cited "medical records" however, he didn't say where the records were, who had them, who wrote them,where one can get access to them, where they were archived, when they were done, etc. he just cited "medical records" which makes the historian in me really, really angry. i'm not saying he made it up, i'm saying that he should have known that there would be controversy on this, and he should have provided photocopied documents or footnoted where we can get copies of the documents. the fact that he did neither, is just poor journalism practice. if she was raped, that's terrible. but the mediaman here should have backed it up, rather than throw around allegations.