Betrayal Video Guide

[Dark Pulse]

I admit my throat was pretty raw that night, you can actually tell at certain points where I cut in an overdub the next day and my voice sounded completely different after it had healed. lol..

I could tell. Wasn't sure if you were attempting to have it sound like two guys voicing their opinions.

Let us know if you need help - we gave Titans a pretty good thrashing/torture test this weekend at FragBU.

 

[Ignotium]

My question is, where did you find all these details? The pack came with not real documentation, that I saw.

playing?

 

[Bersy]

I've got a script more or less worked out, but feel free to suggest any points you think are important, you've got me on IRC.

 

[Bersy]

My question is, where did you find all these details? The pack came with not real documentation, that I saw.

1. Playing, lots and lots of intensive testing for around 2 weeks.
2. Source code
3. Steve Polge released some brief textual summary

 

[Lopar-XL]

Thanks for the tutorial, Bersy. That was put together well.

 

[cosmix]

Ya thx for the nice video, Bersy. Well done!

 

[Hedge-o-Matic]

playing?

My comment was about documentation. But of course you knew that.

Anyway, I'm surprised Epic didn't send some sort of written material, given that Betrayal has a lot of detail in the implementation. Now that I know how to play, the gametype looks really interesting.

 

[UBerserker]

This gametype for the win. Thanks once again for the video :tup:

 

[Agent_5]

Someone at id (I don't remember exactly who) started naming the meat chunks gibs after giblets, which has a J-sound.
Being the inventor, he is the one who invented the pronunciation, which he logically chose to be identical to the original word.

And IIRC that man was John Romero. Hence why I mentioned him in my first post.

I've always pronounced it as gib but the UT2004 announcer says Jib. So I think that settles it.

Well the announcer's wrong, just like DP (who IIRC also pronounces it with a j). So there

jib-gib... excellent tutorials and I quite liked the voicing you provided, Bersy. Sounded very professional to me.

That's because you're just as high as he is! Don't do drugs!

Oh, and the video is good.

 

[Retodon8]

And IIRC that man was John Romero. Hence why I mentioned him in my first post.

Yes, I read your post.
I had a quick look, and I see Adrian Carmack is sometimes credited for inventing the word.
Funnily I also read that he in turn credits John Romero.
Assuming that is an actual quote, you are right about whom to credit.

I also read that the word first appeared in Doom, specifically in the file names for the gib sprites.

Well the announcer's wrong, just like DP (who IIRC also pronounces it with a j). So there

Crap, you got me.
I only explained the logic behind my (and other people's) reasoning, giving the facts, but you effortlessly trump that with a simple: "You are wrong!".
You won the argument; nicely played.

so does this come down to personal preference, local variants or what?!

Just two posts before yours I explained in full...
Short version: "Jib" is correct; it's "G" as in "George".
However, people pronounce words however they see fit anyway, which caused the other pronunciation to rear its ugly head.

Aaanyway, I'm watching both videos again now; I still need to try the new gametypes.

 

[Malevol3nt]

What's this "insta jib" this guy's talking about? I thought betrayal was played with insta GIB rifles? Does this guy seriously talk about Jibbing people?

My thought's exactly. People who never played UT should not make videos about it.

 

[Bersy]

So now the way I choose to pronounce "gib" somehow determines my qualifications / experience in UT? Geez.. get over it guys. I already explained that I would have said "gib" but I didn't, because this argument was even more likely to happen in reverse.

"Insta-what?" was even put in there as a jab at people like you.

If that's the only thing you can dwell on, I guess there is no helping you.

 

[hal]

You can't please everyone, Bersy. Some people don't even want to be pleased.

They just want to bitch and act like jerks. So, in a weird, twisted way, you've made their day.

 

[TheIronKnuckle]

Well, i pronounce it as gib and giblet, but i don't give a **** how others pronounce it. The vid was great and this thread proves that "zero time to whining" has become a staple part of BU etiquette. It no longer merely applies to bashing UT3, but now applies to anything and everything.

 

[Agent_5]

Yes, I read your post.

I disagree.

Assuming that is an actual quote, you are right about whom to credit.

No it isn't.

Crap, you got me.
I only explained the logic behind my (and other people's) reasoning, giving the facts, but you effortlessly trump that with a simple: "You are wrong!".
You won the argument; nicely played.

Yes I did. I R WINRAR! Password protect me and call me in the morning.

Just two posts before yours I explained in full...
Short version: "Jib" is correct; it's "G" as in "George".
However, people pronounce words however they see fit anyway, which caused the other pronunciation to rear its ugly head.

You liar! You just said I was right!!

So now the way I choose to pronounce "gib" somehow determines my qualifications / experience in UT?

I think it's more because you're a filthy canadian ,, lol

If that's the only thing you can dwell on, I guess there is no helping you.

Well I don't want your help!!

They just want to bitch and act like jerks. So, in a weird, twisted way, you've made their day.

I told you to get off of the drugs. Bersy might have an excuse because he's in Switzerland and they're all stoned slackers there, but you're in America! Stop smoking the devil's dandruff in my America!

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[TheIronKnuckle]

racial slurs FTW.

 

[haarg]

Of course "aluminum" isn't the right pronunciation of aluminium.

However, "aluminum" is the correct pronunciation of aluminum, which is how the word is spelled in US English.

 

[Dark Pulse]

Well the announcer's wrong, just like DP (who IIRC also pronounces it with a j). So there

As stated on IRC, I pronounce it with a g.

 

[NeoNight]

I thought gib was pronounced Gh-heeb.. who knew

 

[Kantham]

The way you pronounce a word turns hard work into useless topic.