Thing is, the people constantly whining about it categorically do not know why it failed generally, only why they didn't like it.
I'm pretty sure everyone knows why the game failed. You don't have to look any farther than the awful "beta" demo.
Thing is, the people constantly whining about it categorically do not know why it failed generally, only why they didn't like it.
Which was met with a whole bunch of praise. It was only after the game came out and most people didn't see immediate change in the two weeks after the demo's release that people began to complain. And complain. And complain.I'm pretty sure everyone knows why the game failed. You don't have to look any farther than the awful "beta" demo.
Maybe when the expansion comes out and either does extremely well or flops miserably people will shut up about how bad UT3 is - if the former, because they're playing it, and if the latter, because they'll bitch about the expansion until Epic says "screw this, we're going exclusively to consoles" and then we're all ****ed and I'll be horribly pissed off at every single person who contributed to the death of the franchise.
If Epic goes exclusively to consoles, which is more than likely at this point, it will be because that's where the (easy) money is, not because of a bunch of complaining hardcore fans. It's the several million faceless, anonymous casual gamers that do (in GoW's case) or don't (in UT3's case) buy a game that ultimately decide its fate, not some guys on a forum.
No matter what we do or say here, the expansion will probably be Epic's last project for the UT franchise. I don't think it will make UT3 significantly more popular, be particularly good, or even is a sure thing for that matter. Afaik it's just one guy making some vague promises semi-off the record atm. I've said it before & I'll say it again: if what's left of the community is serious about extending this game's (and genre's!) lifespan, it will have to fix it itself. You have the skills and the manpower, but apparently not the will. Shame!
Fortunately, there are always enough players to have a good game.
Nothing? Then pray tell, what caused two different engine versions between the two games? Maybe the fixes weren't immediately apparent, or even gameplay fixes, but there were fixes.
Can't afford the 750gb drive for $90 huh?Because I don't want to fill up my harddrive with a bunch of custom maps for this game, my server choices are typically 0-2 out of 3-4 for about two of the gametypes (and I'm not playing on that stupid Suspense-only sever), and the rest are empty.
Actually I read on one of those DRM links that lack of content didnt come up in complaints much at all across a number of games (including TF2). Just thought I would mention that, I would tend to agree with you though I think people can get past that as long as theres steady support and enough polished content in the original package
Which was met with a whole bunch of praise.
Can't afford the 750gb drive for $90 huh?
Some people "liked" the demo because there was nothing to go on but hope for the future. No CTF, no WAR, no good DM maps. The game had glaring issues, but it was a beta demo, right? Certainly bugs and things would be fixed, right? Certainly the code that went gold was a lot newer than the beta demo code, right? Certainly the rest of the game would be full of good maps and gametypes and a suite campaign and great overall content, right?That's not what I remember
So you'll be pissed at Epic, Epic, and Epic. On particularly bad days you'll probably have to change it up and focus your nerd rage on Epic.I'll be horribly pissed off at every single person who contributed to the death of the franchise.
You do realize that there are no less than 4 ways to deal with that issue, don't you?I would actually love to fill my hardrive with maps, but most of my free space is not on my C Drive. Thats why I installed UT3 on my secondary. That's why the biggest thing I care about for the next UT is to not have this Mydocs thing. It doesn't matter how much more space I buy, they are still going to go on my C drive. And I am not at a point where I want to get a new primary drive or new computer.
I have a feeling that the next UT will improve on this. And I am hopeful.
Insert insulting comment here.But I know, offline players don't count.
QFTI won't downplay how important the offline community is. I played thousands of hours of UT offline, hundreds of hours of UT2003 offline and dozens of hours of UT2004 offline.
But, for me, what kept all of those games alive offline was CUSTOM CONTENT. Screw Epic's content. While nice, no amount of standard content is going to last long enough to satiate you. Plus, the community comes up with some pretty kick-A stuff, like Prometheus.
That's not what I remember
Some people "liked" the demo because there was nothing to go on but hope for the future. No CTF, no WAR, no good DM maps. The game had glaring issues, but it was a beta demo, right? Certainly bugs and things would be fixed, right? Certainly the code that went gold was a lot newer than the beta demo code, right? Certainly the rest of the game would be full of good maps and gametypes and a suite campaign and great overall content, right?
Well, it wasn't, and that's when people started bitching.
Can't afford the 750gb drive for $90 huh?
Insert insulting comment here.
seriously? Give some links so i can flame the bastardWell, I remember that nutcase who wrote an essay's worth of insults to offliners, and then stopped posting "to prove that he had a life."
Serial ATA drives don't use Molex for power. :xNope, and I don't have any free molex left. And I don't think I even have room to cram another piece of junk in the box.