JB-SpaceLego

4WD · 19th Sep 2005, 03:28 PM

http://nalicity.beyondunreal.com/map_hub.php?mid=8761
conversion from the map ctf-2on2spacelego by h0ok. hf

G.Lecter · 19th Sep 2005, 04:10 PM

A preety good one to convert. I've just run 5 minutes through it and fits JB fairly well.
Some thingies:
- The switches are a bit too easy to defend now. I think they should be in the middle of the base-room. That makes [IMO] the side routes more attractive. You could place a fifty shield where the switch is now to give a small advantage to defenders...

- Jails are a bit too small, and I think the doors should stay a bit more time opened.
- The shields in the middle are practically useless IMO. Try lowering that spot to a doublejump height and adding healths instead.
- For the execution... You could make lots of bricks appear in the jail making it more and more cramped until players get crushed. It would need a lot of time and and work, but it would own...

Vatcilli zeitchef · 19th Sep 2005, 05:10 PM

Eaten by Lego T-Rex

Prisoners shatter into lego bricks.
The possibilities are limitless on this one.
But both of these require coding

4WD · 19th Sep 2005, 05:32 PM

lowering switches to the middle is not a good idea, waaay too easy to attack (tried), place is good where they are now tbh.
jails cant be much bigger due to the place where the jails are, imo size is ok.
shield in middle: easy to reach with a walldodge.
i'm working on a fancier execution

G.Lecter · 20th Sep 2005, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vatcilli zeitchef

Eaten by Lego T-Rex

lol what a good one...

I've been playing a bit more, spectating the bots and having a look in the editor...
- The map has not neither AssaultPaths nor Defensive scripts for bots, so they just go quickly to the middle and make spamfests there.

Try to make an AssaultPath web... but I could do it if you have trouble.

- Some playerstarts are too near the middle, which also encourages everyone to go to the RL room. All the playerstarts should be in the switch room IMO...

- Make the jaildoors with small legobricks.

- You can hide in some ceilings if the translocator is available. They should be blocked...
- Picture 1: Some things in the Arena.
- Pictures 2-3: The map needs IMO a couple of dodgeramps to fix the lack of the translocator. They could be big lego-tiles rather than ramps...

Jrubzjeknf · 20th Sep 2005, 02:18 PM

priceless, 'nuff said

Would be awesome if prisoners were attacked by freaking pirates

Vatcilli zeitchef · 21st Sep 2005, 06:21 AM

Ahh! The pickupbases!!!!
Delete the multiskins they look horrible!
Or better make a custom pickubase mesh.

h0ok · 21st Sep 2005, 07:36 AM

u dont need any dodgeramps, u can dodge on everything, just use wall dodge

The_Head · 21st Sep 2005, 08:32 AM

Custom pickupbase ftw!

Layout and gamelay is good. A couple of dodgeramps in some places will work nice.
Imo the switch position is fine. Don't want it too easy.

Pirates in the jail please

4WD · 21st Sep 2005, 06:05 PM

update
changed weaponbases
changed execution

loadingscreen levelpreview minimap

ramps
i do agree with h0ok, additional ramps arent needed, walldodges works well.

arena
dunno why there should be blockingvolumes on the stairs ? u can go up & down there, bots do it too, so...

if no bugs were found i'll add some assaultpaths and the map will be done

The_Head · 22nd Sep 2005, 08:32 AM

/has seen the excecution. Won't spoil it for you. But its cool

4WD · 22nd Sep 2005, 12:35 PM

update
added defencescripts & assaultpaths. everything seems to work well now. plz post any bugs, this'll be the last beta.

known bug
sometimes one of the evil bricks from hell escapes & run around after the execution... dunno why but this isnt that bad since he's easy to kill & grants you a weapon after being killed

tarquin · 22nd Sep 2005, 12:54 PM

What was this converted from -- an Epic map or a custom map?
I can't find much for 'spacelego' anywhere.

4WD · 22nd Sep 2005, 12:59 PM

custom map ctf-2on2spacelego by h0ok with kind permission.
http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=1955

tarquin · 22nd Sep 2005, 01:03 PM

Thanks

A few points:
the "jail" text on the floor is cool but the letters don't seem lined up with the bars above and below -- see the news post pic. The end of the L sticks out.
How do you get the armor?
The jail doors look a bit plain. I know with the lego theme you can't really make fine trim though. The same goes for the window behind the switch.
The brick execution is fantastic!

but maybe the text on the bricks could be tidied up a bit? It looks a bit uneven.

Aersik · 22nd Sep 2005, 01:04 PM

CTF-2on2-Spacelego

Its a custom CTF map that reminds me of Coret. Gets played a lot when our server is on iCTF, although usually only when there are 10+ people. Good fun, but a bit too spammy for my liking.

Edit: Beaten by a mile

4WD · 22nd Sep 2005, 01:23 PM

screen1: howto reach the shield with a walldodge (jump, dodge, jump)
screen2: howto attack the base from the right entrance with a walldodge (jump, dodge, jump)

edit
found another little bug, bots cant walldodge up to the right base-entrance, they keep doublejumping at the same place. fixed in next (hopefully final) release.
@tarquin: well the jailtext is aligned, one end from the J sticks out too

text-on-bricks is intended to look that way, wantet it to look as if an 5 jear old kid wrote it on it.

G.Lecter · 22nd Sep 2005, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4WD

i do agree with h00k, additional ramps arent needed, walldodges works well.

Ehm... How can you wlldodge from the healthpack to she sniper rifle?

I think that one is necessary.

Quote:

dunno why there should be blockingvolumes on the stairs ? u can go up & down there, bots do it too, so...

Such high stairsteps can stop dodges in a bit annoying way... And when you walk on them you feel a little hop-hop effect that could be fixed easily. Yeah, It's something stupìd...

> I saw some mistakes in the pathing:
- In the second waldodge picture the jumpspot is set bDodgeUp=True. The bots often try to do a slopedodge, and they obviously fail since there is not any dodgeramp there.
- The AssaultPaths placed near the ShockRifle don't work properly: The bots go there and after that they turn 180deg and go back the path they have just runned. Try moving those AssaultPaths a little
- Maybe that's just me but I still think the bots overuse the middle...

- If you are bored... path the tricky translocations. Instagib fans will like that...

http://blitz.unrealplayground.com/tu...TrickyTransloc
> Players die too soon in the execution... The evil blocks only have time to kill 1 or 2 people.

Cool execution BTW.

4WD · 22nd Sep 2005, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Lecter

Ehm... How can you wlldodge from the healthpack to she sniper rifle?

shieldjump

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Lecter

Such high stairsteps can stop dodges in a bit annoying way...

done

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Lecter

The AssaultPaths placed near the ShockRifle don't work properly

done

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Lecter

Players die too soon in the execution...

done

The_Head · 22nd Sep 2005, 04:13 PM

Check the fallback time of the excecution in the JBjailinfo actor.

@G.Lector. No point having translocating. JB is played without translocator, and if you try playing using it it will get removed as soon as you go into jail anyway.

19th Sep 2005, 03:28 PM	#1
4WD globle Join Date: Sep. 6th, 2004 Location: belgium Posts: 194	JB-SpaceLego http://nalicity.beyondunreal.com/map_hub.php?mid=8761 conversion from the map ctf-2on2spacelego by h0ok. hf __________________ signature Last edited by 4WD; 3rd Oct 2005 at 10:16 AM. Reason: update

19th Sep 2005, 04:10 PM	#2
G.Lecter Registered Tester Join Date: Dec. 31st, 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 960	A preety good one to convert. I've just run 5 minutes through it and fits JB fairly well. Some thingies: - The switches are a bit too easy to defend now. I think they should be in the middle of the base-room. That makes [IMO] the side routes more attractive. You could place a fifty shield where the switch is now to give a small advantage to defenders... - Jails are a bit too small, and I think the doors should stay a bit more time opened. - The shields in the middle are practically useless IMO. Try lowering that spot to a doublejump height and adding healths instead. - For the execution... You could make lots of bricks appear in the jail making it more and more cramped until players get crushed. It would need a lot of time and and work, but it would own... __________________ UT3: \| JB-Makoy from UT3 Jailbreak \| Grayscaled Loading Screens \| UT2004: \| VCTF-Antropolis \| CTF-Opposite \| JB-Fragtion2 \| JB-Isolated \| Jailbreak: \| Info \| News \| Forum \| Join us! \| Last edited by G.Lecter; 19th Sep 2005 at 04:13 PM.

19th Sep 2005, 05:10 PM	#3
Vatcilli zeitchef Dead and back Join Date: May. 16th, 2005 Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands Posts: 665	Eaten by Lego T-Rex Prisoners shatter into lego bricks. The possibilities are limitless on this one. But both of these require coding Last edited by Vatcilli zeitchef; 21st Sep 2005 at 06:22 AM.

19th Sep 2005, 05:32 PM	#4
4WD globle Join Date: Sep. 6th, 2004 Location: belgium Posts: 194	lowering switches to the middle is not a good idea, waaay too easy to attack (tried), place is good where they are now tbh. jails cant be much bigger due to the place where the jails are, imo size is ok. shield in middle: easy to reach with a walldodge. i'm working on a fancier execution __________________ signature

21st Sep 2005, 06:05 PM	#10
4WD globle Join Date: Sep. 6th, 2004 Location: belgium Posts: 194	update changed weaponbases changed execution loadingscreen levelpreview minimap ramps i do agree with h0ok, additional ramps arent needed, walldodges works well. arena dunno why there should be blockingvolumes on the stairs ? u can go up & down there, bots do it too, so... if no bugs were found i'll add some assaultpaths and the map will be done __________________ signature

20th Sep 2005, 02:18 PM	#6
Jrubzjeknf Registered Coder Join Date: Mar. 12th, 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,256	priceless, 'nuff said Would be awesome if prisoners were attacked by freaking pirates

21st Sep 2005, 06:21 AM	#7
Vatcilli zeitchef Dead and back Join Date: May. 16th, 2005 Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands Posts: 665	Ahh! The pickupbases!!!! Delete the multiskins they look horrible! Or better make a custom pickubase mesh.

21st Sep 2005, 07:36 AM	#8
h0ok Registered User Join Date: Sep. 21st, 2005 Posts: 34	u dont need any dodgeramps, u can dodge on everything, just use wall dodge

22nd Sep 2005, 12:35 PM	#12
4WD globle Join Date: Sep. 6th, 2004 Location: belgium Posts: 194	update added defencescripts & assaultpaths. everything seems to work well now. plz post any bugs, this'll be the last beta. known bug sometimes one of the evil bricks from hell escapes & run around after the execution... dunno why but this isnt that bad since he's easy to kill & grants you a weapon after being killed __________________ signature

22nd Sep 2005, 12:54 PM	#13
tarquin design is flawed Join Date: Oct. 11th, 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,900	What was this converted from -- an Epic map or a custom map? I can't find much for 'spacelego' anywhere. __________________ There's a Jailbreak banner for every map. <tarquin> great work on the llama hud, Wormbo. I really felt like puking

22nd Sep 2005, 12:59 PM	#14
4WD globle Join Date: Sep. 6th, 2004 Location: belgium Posts: 194	custom map ctf-2on2spacelego by h0ok with kind permission. http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=1955 __________________ signature

22nd Sep 2005, 01:03 PM	#15
tarquin design is flawed Join Date: Oct. 11th, 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,900	Thanks A few points: the "jail" text on the floor is cool but the letters don't seem lined up with the bars above and below -- see the news post pic. The end of the L sticks out. How do you get the armor? The jail doors look a bit plain. I know with the lego theme you can't really make fine trim though. The same goes for the window behind the switch. The brick execution is fantastic! but maybe the text on the bricks could be tidied up a bit? It looks a bit uneven.

22nd Sep 2005, 01:04 PM	#16
Aersik Turbo charged pogo stick Join Date: Feb. 9th, 2005 Posts: 75	CTF-2on2-Spacelego Its a custom CTF map that reminds me of Coret. Gets played a lot when our server is on iCTF, although usually only when there are 10+ people. Good fun, but a bit too spammy for my liking. Edit: Beaten by a mile Last edited by Aersik; 22nd Sep 2005 at 01:13 PM.

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