A question about 2.87

FieldMedic · 15th Oct 2001, 10:50 AM

Hello

Maybe i dont have the eye of the eagle , but there is an information i cant find here.

Please , can someone answer my question
Will Infiltration 2.87 be another huge downolad , or will it be a patch for the actual 2.86 ?

I have my idea on the answer when i read the new features , but this idea is scaring my 56K (and when my 56K simply thinks about the future map pack , it already begins to ask for help

)

Thank you for the answer.

asmodeus · 15th Oct 2001, 12:16 PM

one thing is certain, there will be a big mappac 10-15 maps to download

DeRailer · 15th Oct 2001, 12:24 PM

well, there will be two new game mode, both CTF style. Whether EAS will be out with 2.87 is well... *shrug*

DeRailer · 15th Oct 2001, 12:25 PM

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well, there will be two new game mode, both CTF style. Whether EAS will be out with 2.87 is well... *shrug*

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oops, I miss the actual topic! I'm such a Ilama!

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sheezh, i hit quote instead of edit...

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Hilikus · 15th Oct 2001, 02:14 PM

I'm wondering if 2.87 will be the final version of the INF mechanics(i guess you could say the engine or something) and if all the ones after 2.87 will be focused on maps/EAS.

15th Oct 2001, 02:46 PM

Is the Inf team considering to upgrade to U2 engine?
Just wondering since its going to be released in April(2002)....

asmodeus · 15th Oct 2001, 02:57 PM

I think they're gonna wait for Unreal Warfare or something, its very sketchy

rgreene · 15th Oct 2001, 03:45 PM

I hope they do a port to U2. I can't wait till UW. IMHO, once it moves to U2 or UW INF will really shine... just imagine this game running at 60+ fps.

asmodeus · 15th Oct 2001, 03:49 PM

imagine huge maps and vehicular support!

with more accurate hit detection (which apparently will be using the actual surface of the model!) will mean a great injury system

I will have to upgrade my rig a bit, but who cares, I can't wait!

OpFor · 15th Oct 2001, 05:19 PM

Heh, U2 will be what INF ports too. If the team doesn't, someone else will. U2 will be awsome, it will sport AWSOME graphics, and better engine (ALOT BETTER) and thr requirements arn't much more than UT.

rgreene · 15th Oct 2001, 10:47 PM

If the team doesn't want to do it I might have a crack at it. I will have just graduated from school and finished up my current project (MOO3)... I ought to be quite bored

NotBillMurray · 15th Oct 2001, 11:06 PM

I think several members of the team have stated that the benefits of UW make it worth the wait. Of course, they'll be steeped in their commercial project at the time, so all the refining they can do now is to our benefit.

asmodeus · 15th Oct 2001, 11:13 PM

wut you working on MOO3?!?! OMG!

YOU BASTARD! why didn't you tell us earlier!!

we want inside info

rgreene · 16th Oct 2001, 12:09 AM

look on the civ3 manual

asmodeus · 16th Oct 2001, 12:20 AM

could you be less precise?

Firestar · 16th Oct 2001, 07:32 AM

U2 will have nice graphics, but will it also have a good netcode? its only a singleplayer game.

rgreene · 16th Oct 2001, 01:23 PM

That's really the ultimate question. Undoubtedly, UW will have really good netcode (since that is, ultimately, the biggest thing they are selling with this engine). I wouldn't expect U2 netcode to be any worse than UT netcode, therefore I can only see gains from porting to U2.

After doing some thought on the issue, it might not be a good idea to do a port, unless it was fully sanctioned by the team. The reason for this is that it would most likely fracture the community. Half of the people would want to play the U2 version so that they have decent framerates, while the other will play the UT version cause their machine is slower, or they haven't bought U2 yet. I'm almost 100% sure that you couldn't connect up both versions to one server (well, not without a massive code rewrite). Furthermore, this would be a maintanence nightmare. Each version would effectively force you to rewrite the whole mod over again. If there are 4 versions between the U2 release and the UW release (I'm SOOO optimistic

) then that will require 4 full ports. Alot of work.

Now, if the team is just lazy and don't want to do it for U2, then by all means we should get a bunch of guys together to do it, then hand them a finished product, which they will then use to all future versions (at which point INF will be a U2 mod). Although I can't really see them as all that lazy...

Keganator · 16th Oct 2001, 07:11 PM

The big problem with U2, for coders anyway, is I understand they COMPLETELY reorganized the class structure, meaning the team will be starting from scratch. Ouch. Much easier to wait for UW to come out, which'll have the same engine as U2, after they've had a chance to work with the new coding structure, making a port much easier.

Unless, of course, UW turns out to be like INF, only (shudder) better.

15th Oct 2001, 10:50 AM	#1
FieldMedic Less good UT Player ever Join Date: Aug. 30th, 2001 Posts: 1,133	A question about 2.87 Hello Maybe i dont have the eye of the eagle , but there is an information i cant find here. Please , can someone answer my question Will Infiltration 2.87 be another huge downolad , or will it be a patch for the actual 2.86 ? I have my idea on the answer when i read the new features , but this idea is scaring my 56K (and when my 56K simply thinks about the future map pack , it already begins to ask for help ) Thank you for the answer.

15th Oct 2001, 12:16 PM	#2
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	one thing is certain, there will be a big mappac 10-15 maps to download __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

15th Oct 2001, 02:57 PM	#7
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	I think they're gonna wait for Unreal Warfare or something, its very sketchy __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

15th Oct 2001, 03:49 PM	#9
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	imagine huge maps and vehicular support! with more accurate hit detection (which apparently will be using the actual surface of the model!) will mean a great injury system I will have to upgrade my rig a bit, but who cares, I can't wait! __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

15th Oct 2001, 05:19 PM	#10
OpFor Feeling suicide, thats O.K. Join Date: Apr. 26th, 2001 Posts: 1,198	Heh, U2 will be what INF ports too. If the team doesn't, someone else will. U2 will be awsome, it will sport AWSOME graphics, and better engine (ALOT BETTER) and thr requirements arn't much more than UT. __________________ "You like what you see, its hard to explain."- The Strokes

15th Oct 2001, 12:24 PM	#3
DeRailer insignificant Join Date: Mar. 15th, 2001 Location: singapore Posts: 2,784	well, there will be two new game mode, both CTF style. Whether EAS will be out with 2.87 is well... shrug

15th Oct 2001, 02:14 PM	#5
Hilikus Psychopsilocybin Join Date: Jun. 2nd, 2001 Location: sea foam green is in Posts: 55	I'm wondering if 2.87 will be the final version of the INF mechanics(i guess you could say the engine or something) and if all the ones after 2.87 will be focused on maps/EAS.

15th Oct 2001, 02:46 PM	#6
"Sp!ke" Guest Posts: n/a	Is the Inf team considering to upgrade to U2 engine? Just wondering since its going to be released in April(2002)....

15th Oct 2001, 03:45 PM	#8
rgreene frag bait Join Date: Oct. 16th, 2000 Posts: 697	I hope they do a port to U2. I can't wait till UW. IMHO, once it moves to U2 or UW INF will really shine... just imagine this game running at 60+ fps.

15th Oct 2001, 10:47 PM	#11
rgreene frag bait Join Date: Oct. 16th, 2000 Posts: 697	If the team doesn't want to do it I might have a crack at it. I will have just graduated from school and finished up my current project (MOO3)... I ought to be quite bored

15th Oct 2001, 11:06 PM	#12
NotBillMurray It's Suntory Time! Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2001 Posts: 2,294	I think several members of the team have stated that the benefits of UW make it worth the wait. Of course, they'll be steeped in their commercial project at the time, so all the refining they can do now is to our benefit.

15th Oct 2001, 11:13 PM	#13
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	wut you working on MOO3?!?! OMG! YOU BASTARD! why didn't you tell us earlier!! we want inside info __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

16th Oct 2001, 12:09 AM	#14
rgreene frag bait Join Date: Oct. 16th, 2000 Posts: 697	look on the civ3 manual

16th Oct 2001, 12:20 AM	#15
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	could you be less precise? __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

16th Oct 2001, 07:32 AM	#16
Firestar Registered User Join Date: Aug. 30th, 2001 Posts: 132	U2 will have nice graphics, but will it also have a good netcode? its only a singleplayer game.

16th Oct 2001, 01:23 PM	#17
rgreene frag bait Join Date: Oct. 16th, 2000 Posts: 697	That's really the ultimate question. Undoubtedly, UW will have really good netcode (since that is, ultimately, the biggest thing they are selling with this engine). I wouldn't expect U2 netcode to be any worse than UT netcode, therefore I can only see gains from porting to U2. After doing some thought on the issue, it might not be a good idea to do a port, unless it was fully sanctioned by the team. The reason for this is that it would most likely fracture the community. Half of the people would want to play the U2 version so that they have decent framerates, while the other will play the UT version cause their machine is slower, or they haven't bought U2 yet. I'm almost 100% sure that you couldn't connect up both versions to one server (well, not without a massive code rewrite). Furthermore, this would be a maintanence nightmare. Each version would effectively force you to rewrite the whole mod over again. If there are 4 versions between the U2 release and the UW release (I'm SOOO optimistic ) then that will require 4 full ports. Alot of work. Now, if the team is just lazy and don't want to do it for U2, then by all means we should get a bunch of guys together to do it, then hand them a finished product, which they will then use to all future versions (at which point INF will be a U2 mod). Although I can't really see them as all that lazy...

16th Oct 2001, 07:11 PM	#18
Keganator White as Snow Moderator Join Date: Jun. 19th, 2001 Location: PR's Barracks Posts: 5,261	The big problem with U2, for coders anyway, is I understand they COMPLETELY reorganized the class structure, meaning the team will be starting from scratch. Ouch. Much easier to wait for UW to come out, which'll have the same engine as U2, after they've had a chance to work with the new coding structure, making a port much easier. Unless, of course, UW turns out to be like INF, only (shudder) better. __________________ --\|\| Sluggy Freelance \|\| The Infiltration Forum Guidelines \|\| Kegnet \|\| Clan Phoenix Rising \|\|-- PsychoMoogieBagpuss: "...we are implementing an updated [forum] policy." ZenPirate: "I suggested that we not only ban [offenders], but also ban the forumer next to them." Arethusa: "So you're (at least largely) a diest?" NTKB: "No im a logical thinking christian"

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