Here's an example of a moron for you... - Page 2

the vrrc · 29th Sep 2001, 06:14 PM

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Links, Links !!

It isn't on a site, but that wouldn't be a bad idea, so everyone could see it when they want. Right now, the thing is 10 pages long, I'm planning on posting soon.

Profe · 29th Sep 2001, 07:09 PM

I cant wait to see it.

The_Fur · 29th Sep 2001, 07:14 PM

you can get car15 uppers for .50AE but .50BMG, i think the recoil would rip off your arm.

Kibbles-N-Bits · 29th Sep 2001, 07:15 PM

Yeah, the 50bmg is a chambered round though, so nothing other than semi-auto I think... which is a good thing.

BlAcK_PlAgUe22 · 29th Sep 2001, 07:53 PM

Animal Farm!

u all r stupid! teh m16a2 uses 9mm!!!!11!

(edit: typos)

RavenStarSinger · 29th Sep 2001, 08:20 PM

/me becomes Pyle
"Seven point six two millimeter. Full. Metal. Jacket."
/me becomes Raven again.

Ok, just so I don't think I've become a complete idiot, but last I checked, caliber is the size of a rounds diameter in hundredths of an inch. a .50 caliber bullet is a half-inch in diameter, .45 is five-hundredths short of half-inch, etc etc. The length is not determined by caliber, but rather by names or other markings (ie .30-06 or .30-30, each is .30 caliber, but have a different casing length and shape) or in the case of .45 you have .45 ACP and .45 Navy. Sound right?

OpFor · 29th Sep 2001, 08:21 PM

heh, In school a few days ago I heard some kids talking about the M16, apparently it's a .308 sniper rifle that can shoot in semi-burst

I do think people are getting dumber.....

the vrrc · 29th Sep 2001, 08:49 PM

Do you know about the Steyr AUG missile launcher!!!!!!!!!11 It roxxores, I want one@

RavenStarSinger · 29th Sep 2001, 08:53 PM

I have a friend of mine that knows NOTHING about guns, but talks like he's some kinda guru.

He claims that the best sniper rifle ever was a .223 with a 20x sniper scope.
He claims he's fired a machine gun in .29
He ALSO claims to have fired a bolt-action M1 garand rifle. Apparantly, it was .50. No specifics as to which .50 cartridge, just that it was .50 (could have sworn it was either .30-06 or .30-30)
Says that the M16 is a full-auto .50, also.
Thinks that a .50 DE fires the same round as any .50BMG rifle.
SWEARS that he has a CARTRIDGE rifle in .54 (I own a TC Black Diamond muzzle loader in .54, but they don't sell catridges in that caliber)
Also swears that you can mount a grenade launcer on ANY rifle.
Claims that carbines are more accurate than long-rifles (where the HELL did he get that one??)
Doesn't believe that the AVERAGE shotgun is smooth-bore. You CAN get a rifled barrel just for slugs, but most come with a smooth-bore barrel for using shot, too.

NotBillMurray · 29th Sep 2001, 08:57 PM

Wow. I always wonder where they get the feeling that they can speak with such authority. I would have thought they would only have some of the more common misconceptions perpetuated by the movies, especially with the ease of finding relatively accurate information on the Internet. But instead, they seem to be far worse. Is there some kind of "Jed's Weaponry for Dummies" site out there that spills out this nonsense?

FiringAimlessly · 30th Sep 2001, 02:03 AM

...but any 200-word encyclopedia blurb would explain the basics of a firearm well enough.

But then most of these kids probably don't even have one of THOSE.

I personally can't really blame them... these days it's so completely politically incorrect to discuss firearms that all those neo-liberal prudes would rather just shield all possible information from their children and have them live in complete, blissful ignorance... they tried that with sex and look where THAT got them...

As for .50 full-auto... maybe if you could make such a weapon and then fitted the rifleman with some really well-oiled inline skates and deployed the getup as an emergency transport mechanism... (and thus I've finally managed to find a firearms-related invention to out-stupefy the "gunchuks" that came to me in a half-dream as I overslept this morning...)

Trak · 30th Sep 2001, 02:34 AM

Heh, there is a .50 cal full auto. It's called the M2 machine gun. They are usually vehicle mounted or set up in stationary machine gun nests. They were developed around WWII and are still in service today. But a .50 automatic rifle? That's just stupid...

FiringAimlessly · 30th Sep 2001, 02:55 AM

Yes, I'm aware of the machine gun... although a month ago I probably would still be wondering why a recording company (BMG) manufactures ammunition...

Many people get horribly confused the terms "assault rifle" and "machine gun," which, combined with hermetic combinations of letters and numbers usually assigned to weapon models whose histories and backgrounds your average joe blow knows nothing about might explain the constant abuse of most people's conceptions of what an "m16" is...

McMuffin · 30th Sep 2001, 03:04 AM

FA is probably right about kids being shielded from all gun knowledge. Their parents, who actually voted for the moronic gun laws that we currently have, obviously have no idea about guns except that they're bad, bad, BAD

Hadmar · 30th Sep 2001, 03:47 AM

"As for .50 full-auto... maybe if you could make such a weapon and then fitted the rifleman with some really well-oiled inline skates and deployed the getup as an emergency transport mechanism."

ROFLMAO

"Is there some kind of "Jed's Weaponry for Dummies" site out there that spills out this nonsense?"

Maybe. *chough*CS forum*chough*

Don't take my word for it, it's just a guess

jaunty · 30th Sep 2001, 05:22 AM

The M40A1, M16A2, M4Ax and all other standard US Army rifles are .700 Nitro weapons.

Idiots.

I like the fact that this guy calling himself UNsuckS is probably the child of a soccer family.

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He ALSO claims to have fired a bolt-action M1 garand rifle. Apparantly, it was .50. No specifics as to which .50 cartridge, just that it was .50 (could have sworn it was either .30-06 or .30-30)

Its .30-06, same as the M1903A4 sniper rifle of the era.

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Do you know about the Steyr AUG missile launcher!!!!!!!!!11 It roxxores, I want one@

Heres a conversation I once had about that case study in evil weaponry.

Idiot: The AUG (say "ahwg" becasue he's a moron and doesn't realise its an acronym for "Armee Universal Gewher") is the greatest gun ever made!
Me: Are you joking?
I: No, its a great gun.
M: What makes you say that?
I: It looks cool!
M: That it?
I: And its got a scope!
M: Yeah, and it's got a piss-poor excuse for backup sights.
I: Its a pupbull! (Yeah, he said that)
M: Bullpup, its called a "bullpup" layout. That doesn't make it a good weapon, though.
I: Yeah it does! It makes it small!
M: And anyone who understands basic physics knows that small means stronger recoil, unless it's heavy, which the AUG isn't.
I: So what! It's ergonomic.
M: You're ergomoronic. The only ergonomics it has is a moulded foregrip, which is evil, since it's a downward.
I: You're an idiot! What gun would you have instead? Huh? An AK?
M: Yeah, an AK101.
I: BUT IT ONLY COSTS $2500 AMERICAN! THE AUG COSTS $3500!!! IT HAS TO BE BETTER!
M: Goodbye.

Guess where this took place.... thats right.. after a lan game of CS.

The_Fur · 30th Sep 2001, 06:56 AM

lol, i'd find him and attempt to beat the stupid out of him.

jaunty · 30th Sep 2001, 07:00 AM

That'd be like trying to beat beef out of a cow.

poaw · 30th Sep 2001, 07:05 AM

Playing CS doesn't make you stupid anymore than playing Infiltration makes you smart.

Case and point.
I have a friend who is intelligent and fairly knowledgable about firearms (most of it coming from him being in the Reserves). Yet he's a die hard CS fan.
On an Infiltration server a few weeks ago I had an interesting discussion with someone that was absolutely, positively sure that looking through a scope allowed you to make more refined muscle movements.

Being stupid makes you stupid. Nothing more, nothing less.

The_Fur · 30th Sep 2001, 07:14 AM

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That'd be like trying to beat beef out of a cow.

As long as i'm having fun

29th Sep 2001, 07:09 PM	#22
Profe Posts: 918,731 Join Date: Jun. 12th, 2001 Posts: 1,034	I cant wait to see it. __________________

29th Sep 2001, 07:14 PM	#23
The_Fur Back in black Join Date: Nov. 2nd, 2000 Posts: 6,205	you can get car15 uppers for .50AE but .50BMG, i think the recoil would rip off your arm. __________________ "States are not moral agents; those who attribute to them ideals and principles merely mislead themselves and others." -Noam Chomsky "Ignorance, and admiration arising from ignorance, are the parents of devotion and obedience" -Dostoyevski

29th Sep 2001, 07:15 PM	#24
Kibbles-N-Bits Registered User Join Date: Dec. 7th, 1999 Posts: 3,403	Yeah, the 50bmg is a chambered round though, so nothing other than semi-auto I think... which is a good thing. Last edited by Kibbles-N-Bits; 6th Oct 2001 at 08:22 PM.

29th Sep 2001, 07:53 PM	#25
BlAcK_PlAgUe22 I ooze. Join Date: Jul. 30th, 2001 Location: Irvine, California Posts: 3,423	Animal Farm! u all r stupid! teh m16a2 uses 9mm!!!!11! (edit: typos) __________________ *[SDS] BlAcK_PlAgUe22*

29th Sep 2001, 08:20 PM	#26
RavenStarSinger I can make you die laughing or just shoot you Join Date: May. 30th, 2001 Location: On the grassy knoll . . . Posts: 192	OH NO! HERE IT COMES AGAIN! /me becomes Pyle "Seven point six two millimeter. Full. Metal. Jacket." /me becomes Raven again. Ok, just so I don't think I've become a complete idiot, but last I checked, caliber is the size of a rounds diameter in hundredths of an inch. a .50 caliber bullet is a half-inch in diameter, .45 is five-hundredths short of half-inch, etc etc. The length is not determined by caliber, but rather by names or other markings (ie .30-06 or .30-30, each is .30 caliber, but have a different casing length and shape) or in the case of .45 you have .45 ACP and .45 Navy. Sound right? __________________ "Hey, try to guess what this is 'Caw Caw, BANG, ****, I'M DEAD!" - The Crow "The intelligence and wisdom of the ages, the greatest of mysteries, fear and elation, all are locked away in the silent eyes of the Raven" ~Quoth RavenStarSinger "I'm much too young to feel this damned old" ~Garth Brooks "If you want to imagine the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever." ~ George Orwell: 1984

29th Sep 2001, 08:21 PM	#27
OpFor Feeling suicide, thats O.K. Join Date: Apr. 26th, 2001 Posts: 1,198	heh, In school a few days ago I heard some kids talking about the M16, apparently it's a .308 sniper rifle that can shoot in semi-burst I do think people are getting dumber..... __________________ "You like what you see, its hard to explain."- The Strokes

29th Sep 2001, 08:49 PM	#28
the vrrc noexistant user Join Date: Jun. 16th, 2001 Posts: 1,834	Do you know about the Steyr AUG missile launcher!!!!!!!!!11 It roxxores, I want one@ __________________ If you are ever given a chance to pick up a quater, run. Run with whatever speed God has given you and pray "They" don't catch you.

29th Sep 2001, 08:53 PM	#29
RavenStarSinger I can make you die laughing or just shoot you Join Date: May. 30th, 2001 Location: On the grassy knoll . . . Posts: 192	Think that's bad. . . I have a friend of mine that knows NOTHING about guns, but talks like he's some kinda guru. He claims that the best sniper rifle ever was a .223 with a 20x sniper scope. He claims he's fired a machine gun in .29 He ALSO claims to have fired a bolt-action M1 garand rifle. Apparantly, it was .50. No specifics as to which .50 cartridge, just that it was .50 (could have sworn it was either .30-06 or .30-30) Says that the M16 is a full-auto .50, also. Thinks that a .50 DE fires the same round as any .50BMG rifle. SWEARS that he has a CARTRIDGE rifle in .54 (I own a TC Black Diamond muzzle loader in .54, but they don't sell catridges in that caliber) Also swears that you can mount a grenade launcer on ANY rifle. Claims that carbines are more accurate than long-rifles (where the HELL did he get that one??) Doesn't believe that the AVERAGE shotgun is smooth-bore. You CAN get a rifled barrel just for slugs, but most come with a smooth-bore barrel for using shot, too. __________________ "Hey, try to guess what this is 'Caw Caw, BANG, ****, I'M DEAD!" - The Crow "The intelligence and wisdom of the ages, the greatest of mysteries, fear and elation, all are locked away in the silent eyes of the Raven" ~Quoth RavenStarSinger "I'm much too young to feel this damned old" ~Garth Brooks "If you want to imagine the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever." ~ George Orwell: 1984

29th Sep 2001, 08:57 PM	#30
NotBillMurray It's Suntory Time! Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2001 Posts: 2,294	Wow. I always wonder where they get the feeling that they can speak with such authority. I would have thought they would only have some of the more common misconceptions perpetuated by the movies, especially with the ease of finding relatively accurate information on the Internet. But instead, they seem to be far worse. Is there some kind of "Jed's Weaponry for Dummies" site out there that spills out this nonsense?

30th Sep 2001, 02:03 AM	#31
FiringAimlessly NOT going to waste another minute on CS! Join Date: Sep. 18th, 2001 Posts: 2,692	Don't know of a Dummies book... ...but any 200-word encyclopedia blurb would explain the basics of a firearm well enough. But then most of these kids probably don't even have one of THOSE. I personally can't really blame them... these days it's so completely politically incorrect to discuss firearms that all those neo-liberal prudes would rather just shield all possible information from their children and have them live in complete, blissful ignorance... they tried that with sex and look where THAT got them... As for .50 full-auto... maybe if you could make such a weapon and then fitted the rifleman with some really well-oiled inline skates and deployed the getup as an emergency transport mechanism... (and thus I've finally managed to find a firearms-related invention to out-stupefy the "gunchuks" that came to me in a half-dream as I overslept this morning...)

30th Sep 2001, 02:34 AM	#32
Trak Rampant Suicide Machine Join Date: Mar. 19th, 2001 Location: Nashville Posts: 506	Heh, there is a .50 cal full auto. It's called the M2 machine gun. They are usually vehicle mounted or set up in stationary machine gun nests. They were developed around WWII and are still in service today. But a .50 automatic rifle? That's just stupid...

30th Sep 2001, 02:55 AM	#33
FiringAimlessly NOT going to waste another minute on CS! Join Date: Sep. 18th, 2001 Posts: 2,692	Yes, I'm aware of the machine gun... although a month ago I probably would still be wondering why a recording company (BMG) manufactures ammunition... Many people get horribly confused the terms "assault rifle" and "machine gun," which, combined with hermetic combinations of letters and numbers usually assigned to weapon models whose histories and backgrounds your average joe blow knows nothing about might explain the constant abuse of most people's conceptions of what an "m16" is...

30th Sep 2001, 03:04 AM	#34
McMuffin The sh¡ttiest Infiltrator Join Date: Jul. 30th, 2000 Location: OR Posts: 950	FA is probably right about kids being shielded from all gun knowledge. Their parents, who actually voted for the moronic gun laws that we currently have, obviously have no idea about guns except that they're bad, bad, BAD __________________ [19:45] <Geno\|Morp> I'm a scottish national rock-thrower disguised as a clown who molests children!

30th Sep 2001, 03:47 AM	#35
Hadmar Queen Bitch of the Universe Join Date: Jan. 29th, 2001 Location: Nerdpole Posts: 5,317	"As for .50 full-auto... maybe if you could make such a weapon and then fitted the rifleman with some really well-oiled inline skates and deployed the getup as an emergency transport mechanism." ROFLMAO "Is there some kind of "Jed's Weaponry for Dummies" site out there that spills out this nonsense?" Maybe. choughCS forumchough Don't take my word for it, it's just a guess __________________ Last edited by Hadmar; 30th Sep 2001 at 03:57 AM.

30th Sep 2001, 06:56 AM	#37
The_Fur Back in black Join Date: Nov. 2nd, 2000 Posts: 6,205	lol, i'd find him and attempt to beat the stupid out of him. __________________ "States are not moral agents; those who attribute to them ideals and principles merely mislead themselves and others." -Noam Chomsky "Ignorance, and admiration arising from ignorance, are the parents of devotion and obedience" -Dostoyevski

30th Sep 2001, 07:00 AM	#38
jaunty If you disagree with me, you're wrong. Join Date: Apr. 30th, 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,506	That'd be like trying to beat beef out of a cow. __________________ Burn Christians, not books.

30th Sep 2001, 07:05 AM	#39
poaw You used to sleep easy at night. Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Location: Camp Pendleton, California Posts: 1,512	Playing CS doesn't make you stupid anymore than playing Infiltration makes you smart. Case and point. I have a friend who is intelligent and fairly knowledgable about firearms (most of it coming from him being in the Reserves). Yet he's a die hard CS fan. On an Infiltration server a few weeks ago I had an interesting discussion with someone that was absolutely, positively sure that looking through a scope allowed you to make more refined muscle movements. Being stupid makes you stupid. Nothing more, nothing less.

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