Map needs testing

rmcollins3 · 23rd Sep 2001, 08:06 PM

Posted this the other day, but didn't get many responses. Thought I might try again. Thanks.

You can get the map here: http://www.geocities.com/choylifut_1/robsmaps.html

OshadowO · 23rd Sep 2001, 09:13 PM

I did say i'd get back to ya

Warning opinions follow:
First off I really love the music.
I like the job you did on the terrain. I coulnd't find any BSP holes except one that popped up in flyby mode..unreachable during gameplay unless you use cheats.
I did not like the feel of the lighting..it felt washed out:/
The elevator to the bridge..it was hard to tell if the lift was there or not. Several times I ran into it only to get bumped on the head and have it go back up again.
Bots were good. They went everywhere and picked up everything. Nice job on pathing.
My biggest qualm with the level is balance on bridge and the SB, Deemer area. I found that it was really easy to camp both these places.
I tried this out by assigning two of my bots to hold position at both these locations. The one camping the powerup ledge managed to stay there the whole game..ensuring my team controlled the belt and deemer.
The other one hogging the bridge managed to stay there for quiet some time before he got knocked out. So I started camping it and held the point for the rest of the game. Whenever I was short on weapons I would run to the rocket launcher located by the teleporter and voila no ammo problems ever.
Sometimes control points like this can be fun..gear bolt-lift comes to mind which is pretty insane and hard to get back...but atleast there is more fighting room there. Here it's easy to knock people off the bridge using the RL. And anyone using the lift is instantly dead thanks to sound cues.
Oh yeah like the nice little touches with the bunnies/cows whatever hopping about.
I'd like to try the final version when you're ready for release so clue me in

rmcollins3 · 23rd Sep 2001, 09:21 PM

Thanks a lot for all the remarks. I didn't really notice a washed out effect of the lighting; there is no zone lighting at all actually. I did use a lot of lights, maybe too many, and maybe that gave it the appearance of zone lighting. Did you notice the shadows on the ground though under the bridge and redeemer area? Hard to be washed out with those I think

Things I have updates since that release: Placed another sniper rifle a little away from the RL and a defense point close to the teleporter on the ground. This makes it a little harder to control the bridge and the redeemer. I also added a bar across the lift exit, because the bots kept swan diving down the shaft for some reason. Now you can only access the lift exit from the other side.

I also added more defense points on the bridge to aid the bots in sniping from there, and I increased their site radius to further enhance this. I've played it a lot and it's always a close match (I usually play on adept with enhanced team A.I. on).

Thanks again for the remarks.

phillys · 23rd Sep 2001, 09:22 PM

nice..... but didn't I reply to ur post?

rmcollins3 · 23rd Sep 2001, 09:24 PM

yes, and thanks. but i saw it moving quickly down the list, so i thought i'd post again...sorry.

phillys · 23rd Sep 2001, 09:33 PM

if you reply in it again, it will move up again.

rmcollins3 · 23rd Sep 2001, 09:44 PM

lol, oh yeah.....

Lyndsay #2337 · 24th Sep 2001, 01:40 AM

Did you take down the map?
It says the page can't be displayed.

rmcollins3 · 24th Sep 2001, 09:00 AM

no, i just updated it, it should be good now

rmcollins3 · 24th Sep 2001, 12:41 PM

anyone, anyone, bueller?

rmcollins3 · 25th Sep 2001, 12:40 AM

uh...another post to move it up again...lol

ChrisToth.hu · 25th Sep 2001, 02:46 PM

DL-ing now...

ChrisToth.hu · 25th Sep 2001, 03:00 PM

Damn. The zip seems to be broken.

Machismo · 25th Sep 2001, 03:55 PM

okay d/ling now

. I'll post feedback soon

.

Machismo · 25th Sep 2001, 03:56 PM

well I shoulda listened to chris. the zip is BROKEN

.

rmcollins3 · 25th Sep 2001, 06:04 PM

dammit, okay, i'll try to fix

rmcollins3 · 25th Sep 2001, 06:06 PM

okay, it's on nalicity now, front page

Machismo · 25th Sep 2001, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rmcollins3
okay, it's on nalicity now, front page

cant d/l it now. will try it later

. promise.

rmcollins3 · 26th Sep 2001, 01:02 PM

you try it yet Machismo? here's the link again, just in case

http://www.planetunreal.com/dl/nc.as...-twinpeaks.zip

Machismo · 26th Sep 2001, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rmcollins3
you try it yet Machismo? here's the link again, just in case

http://www.planetunreal.com/dl/nc.as...-twinpeaks.zip

give me 10 minutes d00d. i'll look at it after the ftp ****

/me= 56ker will post comments here.

its a you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours world

.

23rd Sep 2001, 08:06 PM	#1
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	Map needs testing Posted this the other day, but didn't get many responses. Thought I might try again. Thanks. You can get the map here: http://www.geocities.com/choylifut_1/robsmaps.html

24th Sep 2001, 01:40 AM	#8
Lyndsay #2337 Squeaky Penguin Join Date: Aug. 12th, 2001 Posts: 887	Did you take down the map? It says the page can't be displayed. __________________

25th Sep 2001, 02:46 PM	#12
ChrisToth.hu Level Designer Join Date: Oct. 2nd, 2000 Location: Atlantis Posts: 2,740	DL-ing now... __________________ Chris Toth ------------- Chris@message.hu

25th Sep 2001, 03:00 PM	#13
ChrisToth.hu Level Designer Join Date: Oct. 2nd, 2000 Location: Atlantis Posts: 2,740	Damn. The zip seems to be broken. __________________ Chris Toth ------------- Chris@message.hu

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23rd Sep 2001, 09:13 PM	#2
OshadowO Irregular Join Date: Feb. 10th, 2000 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 4,774	I did say i'd get back to ya Warning opinions follow: First off I really love the music. I like the job you did on the terrain. I coulnd't find any BSP holes except one that popped up in flyby mode..unreachable during gameplay unless you use cheats. I did not like the feel of the lighting..it felt washed out:/ The elevator to the bridge..it was hard to tell if the lift was there or not. Several times I ran into it only to get bumped on the head and have it go back up again. Bots were good. They went everywhere and picked up everything. Nice job on pathing. My biggest qualm with the level is balance on bridge and the SB, Deemer area. I found that it was really easy to camp both these places. I tried this out by assigning two of my bots to hold position at both these locations. The one camping the powerup ledge managed to stay there the whole game..ensuring my team controlled the belt and deemer. The other one hogging the bridge managed to stay there for quiet some time before he got knocked out. So I started camping it and held the point for the rest of the game. Whenever I was short on weapons I would run to the rocket launcher located by the teleporter and voila no ammo problems ever. Sometimes control points like this can be fun..gear bolt-lift comes to mind which is pretty insane and hard to get back...but atleast there is more fighting room there. Here it's easy to knock people off the bridge using the RL. And anyone using the lift is instantly dead thanks to sound cues. Oh yeah like the nice little touches with the bunnies/cows whatever hopping about. I'd like to try the final version when you're ready for release so clue me in __________________ -shadow- ................

23rd Sep 2001, 09:21 PM	#3
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	Thanks a lot for all the remarks. I didn't really notice a washed out effect of the lighting; there is no zone lighting at all actually. I did use a lot of lights, maybe too many, and maybe that gave it the appearance of zone lighting. Did you notice the shadows on the ground though under the bridge and redeemer area? Hard to be washed out with those I think Things I have updates since that release: Placed another sniper rifle a little away from the RL and a defense point close to the teleporter on the ground. This makes it a little harder to control the bridge and the redeemer. I also added a bar across the lift exit, because the bots kept swan diving down the shaft for some reason. Now you can only access the lift exit from the other side. I also added more defense points on the bridge to aid the bots in sniping from there, and I increased their site radius to further enhance this. I've played it a lot and it's always a close match (I usually play on adept with enhanced team A.I. on). Thanks again for the remarks.

23rd Sep 2001, 09:22 PM	#4
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	nice..... but didn't I reply to ur post?

23rd Sep 2001, 09:24 PM	#5
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	yes, and thanks. but i saw it moving quickly down the list, so i thought i'd post again...sorry.

23rd Sep 2001, 09:33 PM	#6
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	if you reply in it again, it will move up again.

23rd Sep 2001, 09:44 PM	#7
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	lol, oh yeah.....

24th Sep 2001, 09:00 AM	#9
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	no, i just updated it, it should be good now

24th Sep 2001, 12:41 PM	#10
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	anyone, anyone, bueller?

25th Sep 2001, 12:40 AM	#11
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	uh...another post to move it up again...lol

25th Sep 2001, 03:55 PM	#14
Machismo Up The Irons Join Date: Jul. 21st, 2001 Location: MaidenHead Posts: 1,277	okay d/ling now . I'll post feedback soon .

25th Sep 2001, 03:56 PM	#15
Machismo Up The Irons Join Date: Jul. 21st, 2001 Location: MaidenHead Posts: 1,277	well I shoulda listened to chris. the zip is BROKEN .

25th Sep 2001, 06:04 PM	#16
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	dammit, okay, i'll try to fix

25th Sep 2001, 06:06 PM	#17
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	okay, it's on nalicity now, front page

26th Sep 2001, 01:02 PM	#19
rmcollins3 AKA "Doublez-Down" Join Date: Mar. 18th, 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 999	you try it yet Machismo? here's the link again, just in case http://www.planetunreal.com/dl/nc.as...-twinpeaks.zip