Is this man's sentence fair? gun rights people read.

Mad_Dog · 19th Sep 2001, 12:21 AM

check this article out.

Quote:

Airport security failed to detect two submachine-guns and several boxes of ammunition a 50-year-old man in the midst of a drinking binge had packed in his luggage on flights from Yellowknife, N.W.T., to Vancouver in April.

Chester tossed them in his duffel bag with the rest of his belongings as he left Yellowknife in April while on a drunken binge.

Chester received a 12-month suspended sentence, with conditions that he take counselling for his alcoholism. He was also prohibited from possessing any weapons for 10 years.

it also says this:

Quote:

The owner of the guns had firearms acquisition certificates for both, court heard.

...so i guess he didn't have ownership for the guns. i assume the owner got them back as well...

So, do you think this kind of sentence is fair, or is it another example of rights being taken away?

Sidewinder · 19th Sep 2001, 12:25 AM

in a sense yes, but i think if you're going to get drunk and take sub guns with ammo in a public place planning on who knows what you need more than a slap on the wrist.

-=SDS=- Lust · 19th Sep 2001, 01:00 AM

Sounds like he got of easy....Who knows what the fellow was really up to. I've been drunk for most of my life (

) and I can't think of a time I've been drunk enough to take two automatic weapons into an airport.

Kuroshio Apocal · 19th Sep 2001, 01:17 AM

Well, if you are that ****ing drunk and that ****ing stupid, maybe you need to spend 365 days getting intimate with Big Leroy and Company.

o <---------- This is your asshole.
O <---- This is your asshole on jail.

Any questions?

BlAcK_PlAgUe22 · 19th Sep 2001, 01:39 AM

lmao

so true.. so true

Trak · 19th Sep 2001, 01:58 AM

This isn't a case of gun rights, this is a case of criminal behaviour. The guy is a thief and criminally negligent drunk or not. I personally think that he should be going to Alcoholics Anonymous... in prison.

ShakKen · 19th Sep 2001, 06:46 AM

Hell yes the idiot deserves it.

Guns and alchohol do NOT mix.

the vrrc · 19th Sep 2001, 11:12 AM

Throw his ass in jail for a bit too, perhaps. My friend is lonely. His name is Pappy. He is 45 years old, 8 feet tall, 300 llbs, single and lonely. He needs a buddy.

RogueLeader · 19th Sep 2001, 11:19 AM

He has a right to take that gun through the airport.

G-Fresh · 19th Sep 2001, 11:29 AM

In his hand luggage while he's p*ssed out of his face?

the vrrc · 19th Sep 2001, 11:38 AM

So I have a right to take guns into an airport so I can hijack a plane? Guns that aren't even mine?

RogueLeader · 19th Sep 2001, 11:48 AM

If people took guns on a plane they wouldn't get hijacked. That's logic. Obviously this man proves a terrorist could bring guns on the plane though, therefore meaning he could take it at will.

G-Fresh · 19th Sep 2001, 12:11 PM

Surely the answer is to stop them getting on the plane in the first place?

RogueLeader · 19th Sep 2001, 12:16 PM

Obviously this incident proves that it is impossible to stop that from happening.

Mad_Dog · 19th Sep 2001, 01:42 PM

Quote:

He has a right to take that gun through the airport.

i knew you would ignore my actual question.

is the sentence of not being able to own a weapon for 10 years fair?

RogueLeader · 19th Sep 2001, 01:51 PM

Well MD, if he was doing something he has a right to do then the implication is he shouldn't be punished at all.

G-Fresh · 19th Sep 2001, 02:17 PM

He doesn't have the right to be drunk on an airliner with a duffel bag full of SMGs and ammo, does he?

RogueLeader · 19th Sep 2001, 02:36 PM

Right: to own guns.
Right: to be drunk.
Not a right: to kill innocent people (while drunk or otherwise). Note that he did not use the weapons at all.

So to answer you G-Fresh, yes he does have that right.

funkstylz · 19th Sep 2001, 02:55 PM

Cmon guys...this is the dumbest argument yet! He was drunk, heavily armed, and got onto a fight?? He's luck he wasn't shot dead for that ****. He has a right to own guns, and yes he has a right to be drunk, but he DOES NOT have to the right to carry lebanons military reserve onto a PUBLIC FIGHT! He was VERY luck to get a slap on the wrist for this.

"If people took guns on a plane they wouldn't get hijacked. That's logic. " - Dumbest quote ever.

Sorry mate, but that one was bad.

phatcat · 19th Sep 2001, 03:12 PM

I agree with funky.

you can't just sit by while a man is drunk, and let him on the plane. with firearms

right: own a gun
right: to be drunk
not a right: to be publicly drunk
not a right: brining weapons on planes.

just becasue you won't do something like this, dose not mean joe blow down the street is smart enough not to also. rules are not made for the smart pepople, they are there to save us from the dumb ones

19th Sep 2001, 12:25 AM	#2
Sidewinder Registered User Join Date: Sep. 11th, 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 440	in a sense yes, but i think if you're going to get drunk and take sub guns with ammo in a public place planning on who knows what you need more than a slap on the wrist. __________________

19th Sep 2001, 01:00 AM	#3
-=SDS=- Lust Radiant Whore Join Date: Dec. 18th, 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 811	Sounds like he got of easy....Who knows what the fellow was really up to. I've been drunk for most of my life ( ) and I can't think of a time I've been drunk enough to take two automatic weapons into an airport. __________________ SDS "You bicubic wh0re, do you really think I will put that pixel garbage on my desktop ?" -DarkBls "lets go bang of his dick!" -Endless

19th Sep 2001, 01:17 AM	#4
Kuroshio Apocal Sucka Free Join Date: Apr. 5th, 2001 Location: An area the size of a small apartment with 160 other men. Posts: 1,852	Well, if you are that **ing drunk and that **ing stupid, maybe you need to spend 365 days getting intimate with Big Leroy and Company. o <---------- This is your asshole. O <---- This is your asshole on jail. Any questions? __________________ "I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'" -President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

19th Sep 2001, 01:39 AM	#5
BlAcK_PlAgUe22 I ooze. Join Date: Jul. 31st, 2001 Location: Irvine, California Posts: 3,423	lmao so true.. so true __________________ *[SDS] BlAcK_PlAgUe22*

19th Sep 2001, 11:12 AM	#8
the vrrc noexistant user Join Date: Jun. 16th, 2001 Posts: 1,836	Throw his ass in jail for a bit too, perhaps. My friend is lonely. His name is Pappy. He is 45 years old, 8 feet tall, 300 llbs, single and lonely. He needs a buddy. __________________ If you are ever given a chance to pick up a quater, run. Run with whatever speed God has given you and pray "They" don't catch you.

19th Sep 2001, 01:58 AM	#6
Trak Rampant Suicide Machine Join Date: Mar. 19th, 2001 Location: Nashville Posts: 506	This isn't a case of gun rights, this is a case of criminal behaviour. The guy is a thief and criminally negligent drunk or not. I personally think that he should be going to Alcoholics Anonymous... in prison.

19th Sep 2001, 11:19 AM	#9
RogueLeader Tama-chan says, "aurf aurf aurf!" Join Date: Oct. 19th, 2000 Location: Indiana. Kill me please. Posts: 5,404	He has a right to take that gun through the airport. __________________ <SaraP> I have no interest in putting pocky, of any flavor, in my panties

19th Sep 2001, 11:29 AM	#10
G-Fresh Red Join Date: Aug. 6th, 2001 Location: Western Mancunia Posts: 1,063	In his hand luggage while he's p*ssed out of his face?

19th Sep 2001, 11:38 AM	#11
the vrrc noexistant user Join Date: Jun. 16th, 2001 Posts: 1,836	So I have a right to take guns into an airport so I can hijack a plane? Guns that aren't even mine? __________________ If you are ever given a chance to pick up a quater, run. Run with whatever speed God has given you and pray "They" don't catch you.

19th Sep 2001, 11:48 AM	#12
RogueLeader Tama-chan says, "aurf aurf aurf!" Join Date: Oct. 19th, 2000 Location: Indiana. Kill me please. Posts: 5,404	If people took guns on a plane they wouldn't get hijacked. That's logic. Obviously this man proves a terrorist could bring guns on the plane though, therefore meaning he could take it at will. __________________ <SaraP> I have no interest in putting pocky, of any flavor, in my panties

19th Sep 2001, 12:11 PM	#13
G-Fresh Red Join Date: Aug. 6th, 2001 Location: Western Mancunia Posts: 1,063	Surely the answer is to stop them getting on the plane in the first place?

19th Sep 2001, 12:16 PM	#14
RogueLeader Tama-chan says, "aurf aurf aurf!" Join Date: Oct. 19th, 2000 Location: Indiana. Kill me please. Posts: 5,404	Obviously this incident proves that it is impossible to stop that from happening. __________________ <SaraP> I have no interest in putting pocky, of any flavor, in my panties

19th Sep 2001, 01:51 PM	#16
RogueLeader Tama-chan says, "aurf aurf aurf!" Join Date: Oct. 19th, 2000 Location: Indiana. Kill me please. Posts: 5,404	Well MD, if he was doing something he has a right to do then the implication is he shouldn't be punished at all. __________________ <SaraP> I have no interest in putting pocky, of any flavor, in my panties

19th Sep 2001, 02:17 PM	#17
G-Fresh Red Join Date: Aug. 6th, 2001 Location: Western Mancunia Posts: 1,063	He doesn't have the right to be drunk on an airliner with a duffel bag full of SMGs and ammo, does he?

19th Sep 2001, 02:36 PM	#18
RogueLeader Tama-chan says, "aurf aurf aurf!" Join Date: Oct. 19th, 2000 Location: Indiana. Kill me please. Posts: 5,404	Right: to own guns. Right: to be drunk. Not a right: to kill innocent people (while drunk or otherwise). Note that he did not use the weapons at all. So to answer you G-Fresh, yes he does have that right. __________________ <SaraP> I have no interest in putting pocky, of any flavor, in my panties

19th Sep 2001, 02:55 PM	#19
funkstylz I CLEAN TEH LATRINE Join Date: Mar. 15th, 2000 Location: Bris. QLD, Oz Posts: 1,455	Cmon guys...this is the dumbest argument yet! He was drunk, heavily armed, and got onto a fight?? He's luck he wasn't shot dead for that ****. He has a right to own guns, and yes he has a right to be drunk, but he DOES NOT have to the right to carry lebanons military reserve onto a PUBLIC FIGHT! He was VERY luck to get a slap on the wrist for this. "If people took guns on a plane they wouldn't get hijacked. That's logic. " - Dumbest quote ever. Sorry mate, but that one was bad. __________________ -Groove is in the heart-

19th Sep 2001, 03:12 PM	#20
phatcat akward cat Join Date: Dec. 29th, 2000 Location: Houston, Tx. If sending hatemail... Paris, France Posts: 9,325	I agree with funky. you can't just sit by while a man is drunk, and let him on the plane. with firearms right: own a gun right: to be drunk not a right: to be publicly drunk not a right: brining weapons on planes. just becasue you won't do something like this, dose not mean joe blow down the street is smart enough not to also. rules are not made for the smart pepople, they are there to save us from the dumb ones __________________ Check out my new mod! SMOD: Tactical

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