WTC to sophiscated for BEN?

SGT.Peelover · 11th Sep 2001, 10:56 PM

I Remember all of Ben Ladin attacks and I remember Dan Rather interview with him. This does not look like his style. Hudam Husane is not a "hijack a plan carsh into WTC". He is more like "give you sone nerve gas and watch you die" guy. It is never the asians. That leaves U.S. militia or some Latins but their to cooked up on the cocaine for this. Remember the Terrorist had pilot training for a big plane. And thats something Ben and Hudam dont have great access to.

Keiichi · 11th Sep 2001, 11:01 PM

Actually, one of the reasons that Osama bin Laden is a suspect is the he has been training suicide pilots who would've been capable of flying passenger aircraft like the 757 and 767.

-Keiichi

Zundfolge · 11th Sep 2001, 11:06 PM

Besides, this is not that sophisticated an attack.

Get 4 trained airline pilots who agree with your cause, or buy a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000 and you should have enough skill to hit a building.

Next get 8 other committed guys who can fight.

Buy a few ceramic knives

Study the flight schedules.

Pick your flights

buy your tickets

there you go...easy as pie and only 12-15 people and a couple thousand dollars involved.

SGT.Peelover · 11th Sep 2001, 11:09 PM

They used box knifes.

Mason · 12th Sep 2001, 06:40 AM

The sophistication being talked about is not HOW it was done, but rather the apparently precise timing and the choice of targets. The WTC is(was) a symbol as well as being an important economic target..the fact that it stuck out highest in the NYC skyline didn't hurt either. The Pentagon is the seat of most of the military leaders. These two targets werecarefully selected. I personally don't think it's any militia groups in the U.S., my main reason being that they have never shown a propensity for committing suicide, they have ALWAYS tried to escape. They also could have just used car bombs...planes were used because they were probably the only explosive instruments the terrorist could get their hands on..this leads me to beleive that the terrorists were NOT living in the U.S. That's my take on the situation.

The_Fur · 12th Sep 2001, 06:58 AM

didn't they allready try a car bomb in the WTC before?
Maybe they just thought they needed bigger bombs. Can't really get biger then a 767...

the vrrc · 12th Sep 2001, 08:02 AM

Well, who ever did it DID need a lot of money and intelligence. Those planes are pretty hard to fly right, but I guess that new simulator might work. But you do need someone with great intelligence to be able to pull off a calculated attack like this. It sounds like there were Americans or american-like people involved on the hijacks.

MiscMan · 12th Sep 2001, 08:04 AM

It is more complicated than you seem to be taking into account. For example, did you know they put US Marshals onto flights? The terrorists had to know which flights didn't have them on.

11th Sep 2001, 10:56 PM	#1
SGT.Peelover Feuer Frei .... BANG! BANG! Join Date: Apr. 16th, 2001 Location: Bayarea, CAlifornia Posts: 220	WTC to sophiscated for BEN? I Remember all of Ben Ladin attacks and I remember Dan Rather interview with him. This does not look like his style. Hudam Husane is not a "hijack a plan carsh into WTC". He is more like "give you sone nerve gas and watch you die" guy. It is never the asians. That leaves U.S. militia or some Latins but their to cooked up on the cocaine for this. Remember the Terrorist had pilot training for a big plane. And thats something Ben and Hudam dont have great access to. __________________ Sometimes we must punish the innocent. It is Fine to Hate things.

11th Sep 2001, 11:01 PM	#2
Keiichi Old Timer Join Date: Mar. 13th, 2000 Posts: 3,331	Actually, one of the reasons that Osama bin Laden is a suspect is the he has been training suicide pilots who would've been capable of flying passenger aircraft like the 757 and 767. -Keiichi __________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr Seuss "These things are great! They're like sex, except I'm having them!" - Fry, Futurama "We both know you won't get half-way to Vergon 6 before 'The Craving' sets is. Then you'll come crawling back for another taste of sweet, sweet candy." - Zapp Brannigan, Futurama "Well, a doctor cures people. A medic just makes them more comfortable....while they die." - Doc, Red vs Blue

11th Sep 2001, 11:09 PM	#4
SGT.Peelover Feuer Frei .... BANG! BANG! Join Date: Apr. 16th, 2001 Location: Bayarea, CAlifornia Posts: 220	They used box knifes. __________________ Sometimes we must punish the innocent. It is Fine to Hate things.

12th Sep 2001, 06:40 AM	#5
Mason Self appointed voice of reason Join Date: Dec. 14th, 2000 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,215	The sophistication being talked about is not HOW it was done, but rather the apparently precise timing and the choice of targets. The WTC is(was) a symbol as well as being an important economic target..the fact that it stuck out highest in the NYC skyline didn't hurt either. The Pentagon is the seat of most of the military leaders. These two targets werecarefully selected. I personally don't think it's any militia groups in the U.S., my main reason being that they have never shown a propensity for committing suicide, they have ALWAYS tried to escape. They also could have just used car bombs...planes were used because they were probably the only explosive instruments the terrorist could get their hands on..this leads me to beleive that the terrorists were NOT living in the U.S. That's my take on the situation. __________________ "I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who endowed us with sense, reason and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use"- Galileo --May the souls of all those who have lost their lives on 9-11-01 rest easy with the love and sorrow expressed by a largely mournful world.

12th Sep 2001, 06:58 AM	#6
The_Fur Back in black Join Date: Nov. 2nd, 2000 Posts: 6,205	didn't they allready try a car bomb in the WTC before? Maybe they just thought they needed bigger bombs. Can't really get biger then a 767... __________________ "States are not moral agents; those who attribute to them ideals and principles merely mislead themselves and others." -Noam Chomsky "Ignorance, and admiration arising from ignorance, are the parents of devotion and obedience" -Dostoyevski

11th Sep 2001, 11:06 PM	#3
Zundfolge Registered User Join Date: Dec. 13th, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 5,703	Besides, this is not that sophisticated an attack. Get 4 trained airline pilots who agree with your cause, or buy a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000 and you should have enough skill to hit a building. Next get 8 other committed guys who can fight. Buy a few ceramic knives Study the flight schedules. Pick your flights buy your tickets there you go...easy as pie and only 12-15 people and a couple thousand dollars involved.

12th Sep 2001, 08:02 AM	#7
the vrrc noexistant user Join Date: Jun. 16th, 2001 Posts: 1,834	Well, who ever did it DID need a lot of money and intelligence. Those planes are pretty hard to fly right, but I guess that new simulator might work. But you do need someone with great intelligence to be able to pull off a calculated attack like this. It sounds like there were Americans or american-like people involved on the hijacks. __________________ If you are ever given a chance to pick up a quater, run. Run with whatever speed God has given you and pray "They" don't catch you.

12th Sep 2001, 08:04 AM	#8
MiscMan The Grand Elitist Join Date: Dec. 24th, 1999 Posts: 760	It is more complicated than you seem to be taking into account. For example, did you know they put US Marshals onto flights? The terrorists had to know which flights didn't have them on. __________________ MiscMan "Had to be written up in library books, footnoted."

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