Frag Counts

MiscMan · 1st Sep 2001, 07:14 PM

You can still find individual frags. Open the server browser.

Edit:

I changed "web browser" to "server browser".

The_Fur · 1st Sep 2001, 07:42 PM

thx for pointing that out, could you please jump in front of a train?

[edit]in case you missed my point, i was refering to a MOVING train, preferably an express train[/edit]

vedder · 1st Sep 2001, 07:50 PM

MiscMan · 1st Sep 2001, 08:26 PM

Why do you want me to jump in front of a moving train?

Harpoon · 1st Sep 2001, 08:53 PM

We'res the web browser?

MiscMan · 1st Sep 2001, 08:55 PM

The BRS.

The_Fur · 1st Sep 2001, 09:04 PM

christ, you ARE that stupid.

ok, forget "moving trains", too many letters in that. use a "knife" instead, can you remember that? K N I F E, stick it in your throat.

NotBillMurray · 1st Sep 2001, 09:08 PM

To translate: The team specifically removed frag counts from the game. They weren't left out on accident, like something they plan on including later. So this can be taken as a hint that they do not want it to be a factor in the game. Then someone like you comes around and points out a bug that still allows frag counting. This defeats the whole purpose of removing it. So I think his point is that you are publishing a bug, and still showing the frag count is a bug, that encourages people to still play for frags. This is why he recommends you take the quick way out.

I'm less hostile about it. Maybe I'll get to kill someone while they are checking their frags. I trust the team will correct this in the future.

JamesT · 1st Sep 2001, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MiscMan
Why do you want me to jump in front of a moving train?

Because frag count is intended to be removed in INF. The fact that it still can be seen via the server browser is considered a bug ( either the team didn't notice this or the team just can't modify the format of the UT server browser system. )

And your post seemed to encourage people to exploit this, which pissed The-Fur off ( I think. )

If you were reporting the bug, ok.

[edited] SLOW TYPING -- ME!

Harpoon · 1st Sep 2001, 09:14 PM

K. BTW, it looks like I was the only one who didn't know it, anyway. There's still a lot of bragging and "nice score, xxx" going on in servers.

Kuroshio Apocal · 1st Sep 2001, 10:13 PM

How about the team sets the number of frags in the browser to a longass string of random numbers. That way, they won't be able to track their frags from the browser.

CyanideTriscuit · 1st Sep 2001, 10:23 PM

Guh. I get to my dorm room tomorrow, I could code a score-zeroing muttie in like 10 seconds if admins really wanted the bother of putting it on their servers.

Kuroshio Apocal · 1st Sep 2001, 10:26 PM

Cool.

yurch · 1st Sep 2001, 10:29 PM

yo, trisket, tell me if you manage to get the compiler running (I can't)

{MUF}Dakin · 1st Sep 2001, 10:29 PM

lol Monk_Zero, I only check my frag count upon death, if I die

NotBillMurray · 1st Sep 2001, 10:38 PM

In Rune, typing players have a word ballon over their head. I think if Fur had his way, players checking their frag counts would visibly masturbate themselves.

{MUF}Dakin · 1st Sep 2001, 11:58 PM

Eh can't see a ghost doing that

!
Although, overall my frag count doesnt really matter, the numbers usually just say I killed most the people, whoopie right? I might not of been able to do that without backup from my team. (although, i do like running and gunning and kicking ass, but nonetheless I love team work also... Team Work beats Run-N-Gun in my book any day [even if I can run and gun a whole team Id rather work as a team than solo!] anyhow..) couldn't you just have the frag count RESET every kill? Set to 0 after every kill you make...

Optikron · 2nd Sep 2001, 06:27 AM

I think warren will agree with me if i remove the Kill update( means the frag variable will always stay at 0 ). It's a variable less for each player to send to the client so in a way there will be more bandwitch.....that will be the official reason for those who don't like it

The_Fur · 2nd Sep 2001, 07:06 AM

me likes, squasing 2 flies with 1 rock.

Alpha_9 · 2nd Sep 2001, 10:06 AM

Also I should point out the frag count tabulated in the server browser is reset w/ every TK. So unless the scoreboard is clean of those little red skulls, you're not really seeing players' true frag counts...

1st Sep 2001, 07:14 PM	#1
MiscMan The Grand Elitist Join Date: Dec. 24th, 1999 Posts: 760	Frag Counts You can still find individual frags. Open the server browser. Edit: I changed "web browser" to "server browser". __________________ MiscMan "Had to be written up in library books, footnoted." Last edited by MiscMan; 1st Sep 2001 at 08:56 PM.

1st Sep 2001, 07:42 PM	#2
The_Fur Back in black Join Date: Nov. 2nd, 2000 Posts: 6,205	thx for pointing that out, could you please jump in front of a train? [edit]in case you missed my point, i was refering to a MOVING train, preferably an express train[/edit] __________________ "States are not moral agents; those who attribute to them ideals and principles merely mislead themselves and others." -Noam Chomsky "Ignorance, and admiration arising from ignorance, are the parents of devotion and obedience" -Dostoyevski

1st Sep 2001, 08:26 PM	#4
MiscMan The Grand Elitist Join Date: Dec. 24th, 1999 Posts: 760	Why do you want me to jump in front of a moving train? __________________ MiscMan "Had to be written up in library books, footnoted."

1st Sep 2001, 08:53 PM	#5
Harpoon Registered User Join Date: Apr. 27th, 2001 Posts: 316	We'res the web browser? __________________ “See officer, I was driving along when I droped my bag of crack. I tried to pick it up but, when I did, my gun fell and jammed my foot against the gas pedal.”

1st Sep 2001, 08:55 PM	#6
MiscMan The Grand Elitist Join Date: Dec. 24th, 1999 Posts: 760	The BRS. __________________ MiscMan "Had to be written up in library books, footnoted."

1st Sep 2001, 07:50 PM	#3
vedder See This Needle? See my arm... Join Date: Jun. 10th, 2001 Location: www.myextralife.com Posts: 1,058

1st Sep 2001, 09:04 PM	#7
The_Fur Back in black Join Date: Nov. 2nd, 2000 Posts: 6,205	christ, you ARE that stupid. ok, forget "moving trains", too many letters in that. use a "knife" instead, can you remember that? K N I F E, stick it in your throat. __________________ "States are not moral agents; those who attribute to them ideals and principles merely mislead themselves and others." -Noam Chomsky "Ignorance, and admiration arising from ignorance, are the parents of devotion and obedience" -Dostoyevski

1st Sep 2001, 09:08 PM	#8
NotBillMurray It's Suntory Time! Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2001 Posts: 2,294	To translate: The team specifically removed frag counts from the game. They weren't left out on accident, like something they plan on including later. So this can be taken as a hint that they do not want it to be a factor in the game. Then someone like you comes around and points out a bug that still allows frag counting. This defeats the whole purpose of removing it. So I think his point is that you are publishing a bug, and still showing the frag count is a bug, that encourages people to still play for frags. This is why he recommends you take the quick way out. I'm less hostile about it. Maybe I'll get to kill someone while they are checking their frags. I trust the team will correct this in the future.

1st Sep 2001, 09:14 PM	#10
Harpoon Registered User Join Date: Apr. 27th, 2001 Posts: 316	K. BTW, it looks like I was the only one who didn't know it, anyway. There's still a lot of bragging and "nice score, xxx" going on in servers. __________________ “See officer, I was driving along when I droped my bag of crack. I tried to pick it up but, when I did, my gun fell and jammed my foot against the gas pedal.”

1st Sep 2001, 10:13 PM	#11
Kuroshio Apocal Sucka Free Join Date: Apr. 5th, 2001 Location: An area the size of a small apartment with 160 other men. Posts: 1,852	How about the team sets the number of frags in the browser to a longass string of random numbers. That way, they won't be able to track their frags from the browser. __________________ "I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'" -President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

1st Sep 2001, 10:23 PM	#12
CyanideTriscuit UScript hack Join Date: Jun. 25th, 2001 Location: The Triscuit Zone Posts: 382	Guh. I get to my dorm room tomorrow, I could code a score-zeroing muttie in like 10 seconds if admins really wanted the bother of putting it on their servers. __________________ Welcome to the Triscuit Zone

1st Sep 2001, 10:26 PM	#13
Kuroshio Apocal Sucka Free Join Date: Apr. 5th, 2001 Location: An area the size of a small apartment with 160 other men. Posts: 1,852	Cool. __________________ "I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'" -President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

1st Sep 2001, 10:29 PM	#14
yurch Swinging the clue-by-four Join Date: May. 21st, 2001 Location: USA, Maryland. Posts: 5,781	yo, trisket, tell me if you manage to get the compiler running (I can't) __________________

1st Sep 2001, 10:29 PM	#15
{MUF}Dakin In it to win it Join Date: Jun. 6th, 2001 Posts: 194	lol Monk_Zero, I only check my frag count upon death, if I die __________________ [Sig Deleted - too big]

1st Sep 2001, 10:38 PM	#16
NotBillMurray It's Suntory Time! Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2001 Posts: 2,294	In Rune, typing players have a word ballon over their head. I think if Fur had his way, players checking their frag counts would visibly masturbate themselves.

1st Sep 2001, 11:58 PM	#17
{MUF}Dakin In it to win it Join Date: Jun. 6th, 2001 Posts: 194	Eh can't see a ghost doing that ! Although, overall my frag count doesnt really matter, the numbers usually just say I killed most the people, whoopie right? I might not of been able to do that without backup from my team. (although, i do like running and gunning and kicking ass, but nonetheless I love team work also... Team Work beats Run-N-Gun in my book any day [even if I can run and gun a whole team Id rather work as a team than solo!] anyhow..) couldn't you just have the frag count RESET every kill? Set to 0 after every kill you make... __________________ [Sig Deleted - too big]

2nd Sep 2001, 06:27 AM	#18
Optikron Registered User Join Date: Jul. 27th, 2000 Posts: 77	I think warren will agree with me if i remove the Kill update( means the frag variable will always stay at 0 ). It's a variable less for each player to send to the client so in a way there will be more bandwitch.....that will be the official reason for those who don't like it

2nd Sep 2001, 07:06 AM	#19
The_Fur Back in black Join Date: Nov. 2nd, 2000 Posts: 6,205	me likes, squasing 2 flies with 1 rock. __________________ "States are not moral agents; those who attribute to them ideals and principles merely mislead themselves and others." -Noam Chomsky "Ignorance, and admiration arising from ignorance, are the parents of devotion and obedience" -Dostoyevski

2nd Sep 2001, 10:06 AM	#20
Alpha_9 Infiltration lead level designer Join Date: Jun. 1st, 2000 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,493	Also I should point out the frag count tabulated in the server browser is reset w/ every TK. So unless the scoreboard is clean of those little red skulls, you're not really seeing players' true frag counts...

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