Can we rappel in EAS?

Blastor14 · 4th Aug 2001, 11:58 PM

Well if you can, it'll be cool.

Kuroshio Apocal · 5th Aug 2001, 12:16 AM

Already suggested. Still a good idea.

MeckonOmega · 5th Aug 2001, 01:32 AM

if you can rappel, which I really hope we can, why can't grapplling hooks be implemented...I already suggested this a while back and was rejected. I'm not looking for grapplling hooks to be approved, I'm just wondering why not, <b>IF</b>, rappeling is possible. explain difference. ?

NotBillMurray · 5th Aug 2001, 02:05 AM

To rappel is to descend. In this context, to descend from a helicopter.

To utilize a grapple, is typically to ascend. This is more suited for Ninjas or James Bond than the regular soldier. However, it may have some suitability for certain special forces. Keep in mind, the lack of detail present in maps would make using a grapple a very frustrating exercise. I, for one, don't see it fitting in the scope of INF. (I know you want it to get to the bell tower in Kosovo, but that kind of ascent would take half and hour with a sniper rifle).

Snake13 · 5th Aug 2001, 10:48 AM

grapling hooks are bad, this isn't weapons factory

LoTekK · 7th Aug 2001, 07:00 PM

two words: australian rappel...

SoSilencer · 7th Aug 2001, 09:36 PM

Why are grappeling hooks bad? It's not like they would be implemented the same way as WFUT or anything.

You would throw the hook and it would try to catch on something. If there was a ledge or something for it to catch on, players would be able to climb the rope. This could be used to get onto balconies and stuff from the ground, great for assault imo, and exactly what they do in real life when they can't come down from above via a helicopter or something. And of course, you wouldn't be able to fire, reload, or change weapons while climbing.

NotBillMurray · 7th Aug 2001, 10:24 PM

I think the point is that rappelling down from a helicopter is definitely okay, but how often is a grappeling hook standard equipment for a military unit. I would imagine it falls in the same fantasy world as having a crossbow for a standard military unit.

Mountaineers don't use grappeling hooks, so military forces trained for mountain fighting *probably* wouldn't have one. They would have crampons and pitons instead.

Ranger .223 · 8th Aug 2001, 10:30 AM

Many Navy SEALS were issued crossbows in nam, they would get them in exchange for rifles that they would give to the indigionous people that hated the VC and NVA, i forgot their names, it's on the tip of my tounge, they were trained by the green berets and were on the MIKE force....MONTAGnYARDS! THATS IT!

Snake13 · 8th Aug 2001, 12:41 PM

ya but a grapling hook that acted like that would be nearly impossible to code, not to mention now people we be getting up into places they were never meant to be

Schadenfreud · 8th Aug 2001, 01:43 PM

How about grapples that could only be used for climbing down high places, i suggested a grapple long ago and also go similar replies to these. And when going down the grapple you could shoot (the recoil would make it amlost impossible but it would be cool to swing down and shoot some unsuspecting n00b in the head with a m9)and be shot at at, OR when your shot too much you fall off the rope cauz you loose grip of it :LOL:. Image in Chasm what fun you could have, maybe we could get some brown suits and bananas too.

So what im basically saying is that we get a portable rope to climb down. you could pick it up after using it AND while going down it you use up stamina AND you could steady the rope like you stready your breathing.

Schadenfreud · 8th Aug 2001, 01:47 PM

Or sticking somone in the eye with the bayenett once youve run outta ammo for the G11

Schadenfreud · 8th Aug 2001, 01:51 PM

Or, sticking somone in the eye with the bayonet once youve run outta ammo for the g11. OR chopping somones head off with the machete, okay thats just sick but still funny.

Schadenfreud · 8th Aug 2001, 01:52 PM

OKAY SUMMIN IS WRONG HERE

RAZZ · 8th Aug 2001, 01:56 PM

why not just let teh players climb?

a long slow animation where you shoulder your rifle and can crawl up a predesignated surface.
(a surface less than 90 degrees vertical or something)

adds options, and it can be limited.

The_Countess · 8th Aug 2001, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LoTekK
two words: australian rappel...

LMAO ROFL LOL

Quote:

So what im basically saying is that we get a portable rope to climb down. you could pick it up after using it AND while going down it you use up stamina AND you could steady the rope like you stready your breathing.

and how do you suggest the engine detemin where it is and where it is not possible to attach a rope?
it would be imposible to set that it in all the maps

so untill we actualy get virtual hands for tying a knot it just wouldnt work

Spetznaz_1 · 8th Aug 2001, 08:41 PM

I'm pretty sure their fast roping in that picture which is different from abseiling.

St0rmcaller · 8th Aug 2001, 09:57 PM

Technical note: The action depicted in the picture posted in the thread starter is known as "spy rigging."

RAZZ · 8th Aug 2001, 10:41 PM

"dope on a rope" if you ask me

all kidding aside. thats the best way to get your butt off a chopper in a hurry.

but dangeling from the side of a building on a string isint something you would do normaly without a very good reason.
it requires some prethought and equipment in place.

LoTekK · 9th Aug 2001, 12:13 AM

"spy rigging"?
looks like fastroping to me... (or at least, that was the term we were taught)... fastroping's fuuun...

and countess, just what exactly's wrong with australian rapelling?

4th Aug 2001, 11:58 PM	#1
Blastor14 The man of few words Join Date: Jan. 12th, 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 76	Can we rappel in EAS? Well if you can, it'll be cool. __________________ Forum Browser, Not Poster

5th Aug 2001, 12:16 AM	#2
Kuroshio Apocal Sucka Free Join Date: Apr. 5th, 2001 Location: An area the size of a small apartment with 160 other men. Posts: 1,852	Already suggested. Still a good idea. __________________ "I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'" -President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

5th Aug 2001, 01:32 AM	#3
MeckonOmega Meckon (Mech-on) Join Date: Mar. 16th, 2001 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 186	Well if you can rappel....... if you can rappel, which I really hope we can, why can't grapplling hooks be implemented...I already suggested this a while back and was rejected. I'm not looking for grapplling hooks to be approved, I'm just wondering why not, <b>IF</b>, rappeling is possible. explain difference. ?

5th Aug 2001, 10:48 AM	#5
Snake13 Sniper Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2000 Location: MA, USA Posts: 1,665	grapling hooks are bad, this isn't weapons factory __________________ "To be prepared for war is the most effectual means of preserving peace." -George Washington

7th Aug 2001, 07:00 PM	#6
LoTekK Peon Join Date: Jul. 26th, 2001 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 1,387	two words: australian rappel... __________________ st0rmcaller: I didn't have to wear pink... st0rmcaller: But then again, It's not like I'm getting any st0rmcaller: so I may as well wear pink thepinklamb: lmao st0rmcaller: but then, I may wind up getting some. the kind of some no man wants st0rmcaller: I shoulda moved to Nevada, not Vriginia. Nevada has whores. st0rmcaller: Virginia is for lovers, but ** me if that means all the chicks are taken. st0rmcaller: <---ed. --- st0rmcaller: If female, and under the age of 90, she's a **in winner thepinklamb: lol st0rmcaller: Hey, I got to have SOME standards st0rmcaller: mebbe 85

5th Aug 2001, 02:05 AM	#4
NotBillMurray It's Suntory Time! Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2001 Posts: 2,294	To rappel is to descend. In this context, to descend from a helicopter. To utilize a grapple, is typically to ascend. This is more suited for Ninjas or James Bond than the regular soldier. However, it may have some suitability for certain special forces. Keep in mind, the lack of detail present in maps would make using a grapple a very frustrating exercise. I, for one, don't see it fitting in the scope of INF. (I know you want it to get to the bell tower in Kosovo, but that kind of ascent would take half and hour with a sniper rifle).

7th Aug 2001, 09:36 PM	#7
SoSilencer Harry Goz (1932 - 2003) Join Date: Nov. 27th, 2000 Posts: 834	Why are grappeling hooks bad? It's not like they would be implemented the same way as WFUT or anything. You would throw the hook and it would try to catch on something. If there was a ledge or something for it to catch on, players would be able to climb the rope. This could be used to get onto balconies and stuff from the ground, great for assault imo, and exactly what they do in real life when they can't come down from above via a helicopter or something. And of course, you wouldn't be able to fire, reload, or change weapons while climbing. __________________ German Guy: Is there an indicator to see where the blue flag is? Mark Rein: Yeah it's a blue flag

7th Aug 2001, 10:24 PM	#8
NotBillMurray It's Suntory Time! Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2001 Posts: 2,294	I think the point is that rappelling down from a helicopter is definitely okay, but how often is a grappeling hook standard equipment for a military unit. I would imagine it falls in the same fantasy world as having a crossbow for a standard military unit. Mountaineers don't use grappeling hooks, so military forces trained for mountain fighting probably wouldn't have one. They would have crampons and pitons instead.

8th Aug 2001, 10:30 AM	#9
Ranger .223 Leadin the way Join Date: Jun. 15th, 2001 Location: Looserville Ky Posts: 52	Actually... Many Navy SEALS were issued crossbows in nam, they would get them in exchange for rifles that they would give to the indigionous people that hated the VC and NVA, i forgot their names, it's on the tip of my tounge, they were trained by the green berets and were on the MIKE force....MONTAGnYARDS! THATS IT! __________________ It's like deja vu all over again!

8th Aug 2001, 12:41 PM	#10
Snake13 Sniper Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2000 Location: MA, USA Posts: 1,665	ya but a grapling hook that acted like that would be nearly impossible to code, not to mention now people we be getting up into places they were never meant to be __________________ "To be prepared for war is the most effectual means of preserving peace." -George Washington

8th Aug 2001, 01:43 PM	#11
Schadenfreud Registered User Join Date: Aug. 3rd, 2001 Location: between heaven and hell Posts: 11	How about grapples that could only be used for climbing down high places, i suggested a grapple long ago and also go similar replies to these. And when going down the grapple you could shoot (the recoil would make it amlost impossible but it would be cool to swing down and shoot some unsuspecting n00b in the head with a m9)and be shot at at, OR when your shot too much you fall off the rope cauz you loose grip of it :LOL:. Image in Chasm what fun you could have, maybe we could get some brown suits and bananas too. So what im basically saying is that we get a portable rope to climb down. you could pick it up after using it AND while going down it you use up stamina AND you could steady the rope like you stready your breathing. __________________ Official God of Dakin

8th Aug 2001, 01:47 PM	#12
Schadenfreud Registered User Join Date: Aug. 3rd, 2001 Location: between heaven and hell Posts: 11	Or sticking somone in the eye with the bayenett once youve run outta ammo for the G11 __________________ Official God of Dakin

8th Aug 2001, 01:51 PM	#13
Schadenfreud Registered User Join Date: Aug. 3rd, 2001 Location: between heaven and hell Posts: 11	Or, sticking somone in the eye with the bayonet once youve run outta ammo for the g11. OR chopping somones head off with the machete, okay thats just sick but still funny. __________________ Official God of Dakin

8th Aug 2001, 01:52 PM	#14
Schadenfreud Registered User Join Date: Aug. 3rd, 2001 Location: between heaven and hell Posts: 11	OKAY SUMMIN IS WRONG HERE __________________ Official God of Dakin

8th Aug 2001, 01:56 PM	#15
RAZZ aka FURY13RT Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2001 Location: Well away from populated areas Posts: 1,495	why not just let teh players climb? a long slow animation where you shoulder your rifle and can crawl up a predesignated surface. (a surface less than 90 degrees vertical or something) adds options, and it can be limited. __________________ HGF construction Crew

8th Aug 2001, 08:41 PM	#17
Spetznaz_1 Special-Purpose Join Date: May. 28th, 2001 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 370	I'm pretty sure their fast roping in that picture which is different from abseiling. __________________ Spetznaz_1 "He who desires peace, must first prepare for war." A member of «45th»

8th Aug 2001, 09:57 PM	#18
St0rmcaller [AFA]'s unoffical godfather Join Date: Apr. 4th, 2001 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,689	Technical note: The action depicted in the picture posted in the thread starter is known as "spy rigging." __________________ AFA Message Board "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."-Ben Franklin -To believe in the life of Love, to walk in the way of Honor, and to serve in the light of Truth... -When the soldier gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, "One more soldier reporting, sir. I've served my time in Hell."

8th Aug 2001, 10:41 PM	#19
RAZZ aka FURY13RT Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2001 Location: Well away from populated areas Posts: 1,495	"dope on a rope" if you ask me all kidding aside. thats the best way to get your butt off a chopper in a hurry. but dangeling from the side of a building on a string isint something you would do normaly without a very good reason. it requires some prethought and equipment in place. __________________ HGF construction Crew

9th Aug 2001, 12:13 AM	#20
LoTekK Peon Join Date: Jul. 26th, 2001 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 1,387	"spy rigging"? looks like fastroping to me... (or at least, that was the term we were taught)... fastroping's fuuun... and countess, just what exactly's wrong with australian rapelling? __________________ st0rmcaller: I didn't have to wear pink... st0rmcaller: But then again, It's not like I'm getting any st0rmcaller: so I may as well wear pink thepinklamb: lmao st0rmcaller: but then, I may wind up getting some. the kind of some no man wants st0rmcaller: I shoulda moved to Nevada, not Vriginia. Nevada has whores. st0rmcaller: Virginia is for lovers, but ** me if that means all the chicks are taken. st0rmcaller: <---ed. --- st0rmcaller: If female, and under the age of 90, she's a **in winner thepinklamb: lol st0rmcaller: Hey, I got to have SOME standards st0rmcaller: mebbe 85

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