Slowdown in UT after re-install

Astaldo711 · 3rd Aug 2001, 09:02 AM

I had to reformat my hard drive

the other day and after re-installing UT, it's seems slower than before. I have a 933mhz PIII, 383MB ram and a GeForce3 card. I'm running in D3D at 800x600 with 32 bit textures. I patched to 436 and installed bonus pack 1. There are no other mods/mutators/skins, etc on it yet, but it just seems slower. This is the same configuration I used before and it ran like silk. I also have the Detonator 12.41 driver for my GeForce card (Same as last time) and DirectX 8.

Peregrine · 3rd Aug 2001, 09:18 AM

Does the entire thing run slow (like the menu screens) or are you just refering to your framerate while playing?

Astaldo711 · 3rd Aug 2001, 09:32 AM

The whole thing. I increased the mouse speed to what it was before, but the mouse pointer is still choppy

Peregrine · 3rd Aug 2001, 09:40 AM

Maybe there is something running in the background? Virus scan? Disk checker? Can you get UT up and into a Window?

Astaldo711 · 3rd Aug 2001, 10:29 AM

There's nothing running in the background. I did a total re-install of everything. I only installed Windows 98, my drivers for video and sound, and UT. I haven't tried running in a window.

Law · 3rd Aug 2001, 01:39 PM

Were you running the UT beta D3D drivers before? Can you remember any tweaking that you did before? And most of all, have you tried OpenGL with the beta drivers?

A_Huge_Sweaty_Baboon · 3rd Aug 2001, 06:46 PM

same happend here, when i upgraded to Win2k, now im getting a sub 10 Framerate and my mouse pointer is really choppy, even with my backed up ini files....
im trying to go back but my thread died

Rooster · 3rd Aug 2001, 11:04 PM

Don't load the most recent d3ddrv.dll drivers - they cut my frame rate in half.

Just use the 436.

Btw, whenever I make a system change (ie, format, hardware, whatever) I always benchmark - but it sounds like you're obviously having some issues here that were not issues before.

Make sure you load the latest mouse drivers - oh, btw, with that system you really should be running at 1024x768x32 - you can handle that NO problem.

Try Detonator 12.90 - been good for me.

Turn off Volumetric Lighting - that will likely take care of everything. (see my system if you think "Oh, my system can handle that" - but you got me on video card)

Prophetus · 3rd Aug 2001, 11:44 PM

Whenever you uninstall UT, the folder and registry entries will still exist in your root directory. Always manually delete the orphaned UT folder and registry entries before a reinstall.

Rooster · 3rd Aug 2001, 11:50 PM

But Proph - all that tends to go away when you "Format".

PHATBURNER · 4th Aug 2001, 06:49 AM

I have the same problem...even after I formatted, and UT was the first thing to be installed, without mods of any kind... just GOTY 436 in the raw.

That choppy mouse movement in menus is driving me insane! In practice games off-line I can only achieve 18fps ave!! And about 30fps ave on-line

I used to get 75fps easy on-line with 1024x768 with eye candy on. Spec is Win ME, 384RAM, D800, GF2 32 mx.

I use the latest drivers for everything,but wondered what everybodies opinion was of the multitude of drivers available for my card- Geforce 32mx, is official better, or the beta detonators etc?

Prophetus · 4th Aug 2001, 03:27 PM

Doh, Rooster...I didn't see "Format"

. I was very tired when I posted that message...yeah...that's it...yeah

.

Sparky · 4th Aug 2001, 10:36 PM

Proph's a dork, you'll have to excuse him

.

Prophetus · 5th Aug 2001, 08:34 AM

lol...

Flare123 · 5th Aug 2001, 08:38 AM

Prophetus][PuF][ just doesnt know how to use a computer

/hands Prophetus][PuF][ a book on mouse clicking.

Prophetus · 5th Aug 2001, 12:20 PM

/me takes Flare123's book and opens it to chapter 10: "How to kick/ban someone with two clicks of the mouse button"

j/k

[IsP]KaRnAgE · 5th Aug 2001, 03:55 PM

i've noticed horrible framerates only in vanilla UT

Tac ops works fine as does Unreal. Lava Giant and Barricade are the biggest offenders. Also in all 3, the menu temporarily freezes when i go any where in the multiplayer area that isnt related to IRC.

For instance im chatting away and i decide to go look for a server.... there is a near 100% chance that during the time im looking for a server, or even the instance i press a tab, that i will get a Freezing episode. This happens between online matches as well (when a match is over and it is switching).
This happens on my friends comp as well, though my comp is much more powerful.
here are the stats:
800mhz athlon
256mb ram
28gig HD
GeForce2 GTS 64mb
DSL connection ( though this happened on 56k for me as well)

I run U, UT, TO o 1024x768 32bit color and high details, standard video resolution.
Nothing is overclocked.

3rd Aug 2001, 09:02 AM	#1
Astaldo711 Son Of The Valiant Sword Join Date: Jun. 4th, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 56	Slowdown in UT after re-install I had to reformat my hard drive the other day and after re-installing UT, it's seems slower than before. I have a 933mhz PIII, 383MB ram and a GeForce3 card. I'm running in D3D at 800x600 with 32 bit textures. I patched to 436 and installed bonus pack 1. There are no other mods/mutators/skins, etc on it yet, but it just seems slower. This is the same configuration I used before and it ran like silk. I also have the Detonator 12.41 driver for my GeForce card (Same as last time) and DirectX 8. __________________ Me not win? That's unpossible! >Ralph Wiggum<

3rd Aug 2001, 09:18 AM	#2
Peregrine Death from above Join Date: Jan. 16th, 2001 Location: Lake Erie Shoreline Posts: 2,507	Does the entire thing run slow (like the menu screens) or are you just refering to your framerate while playing? __________________

3rd Aug 2001, 09:32 AM	#3
Astaldo711 Son Of The Valiant Sword Join Date: Jun. 4th, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 56	The whole thing. I increased the mouse speed to what it was before, but the mouse pointer is still choppy __________________ Me not win? That's unpossible! >Ralph Wiggum<

3rd Aug 2001, 09:40 AM	#4
Peregrine Death from above Join Date: Jan. 16th, 2001 Location: Lake Erie Shoreline Posts: 2,507	Maybe there is something running in the background? Virus scan? Disk checker? Can you get UT up and into a Window? __________________

3rd Aug 2001, 10:29 AM	#5
Astaldo711 Son Of The Valiant Sword Join Date: Jun. 4th, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 56	There's nothing running in the background. I did a total re-install of everything. I only installed Windows 98, my drivers for video and sound, and UT. I haven't tried running in a window. __________________ Me not win? That's unpossible! >Ralph Wiggum<

3rd Aug 2001, 01:39 PM	#6
Law I see... Join Date: May. 2nd, 2000 Posts: 989	Were you running the UT beta D3D drivers before? Can you remember any tweaking that you did before? And most of all, have you tried OpenGL with the beta drivers? __________________ "Wit is educated insolence." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.)

3rd Aug 2001, 06:46 PM	#7
A_Huge_Sweaty_Baboon The Baboon... HAS.... SPOKEN Join Date: Aug. 12th, 2000 Location: My Groin Is Sore Posts: 700	same happend here, when i upgraded to Win2k, now im getting a sub 10 Framerate and my mouse pointer is really choppy, even with my backed up ini files.... im trying to go back but my thread died __________________ Assorted quotes by 1 Assorted PuF'er: "Damn you & your cynical ways. Shut up! I'm trying to eat my friggin corn on the friggin cob!" "Shhhhhhh!!, Cant you hear the gnomes?" "Your Obsession Amuses me" "I don't call myself a pimp. I like to think of myself as more of a male-madam." "BALLSUCKER! BALLSUCKER! HAHAHA! BALLSUCKER!" "You'd think a baboon would have bigger testicles than that. I mean, the one I saw... er.... nevermind..."

3rd Aug 2001, 11:04 PM	#8
Rooster Local Legend Join Date: Jan. 4th, 2000 Location: Fort Mill, SC Posts: 5,287	Don't load the most recent d3ddrv.dll drivers - they cut my frame rate in half. Just use the 436. Btw, whenever I make a system change (ie, format, hardware, whatever) I always benchmark - but it sounds like you're obviously having some issues here that were not issues before. Make sure you load the latest mouse drivers - oh, btw, with that system you really should be running at 1024x768x32 - you can handle that NO problem. Try Detonator 12.90 - been good for me. Turn off Volumetric Lighting - that will likely take care of everything. (see my system if you think "Oh, my system can handle that" - but you got me on video card) __________________ "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and success of liberty." John F. Kennedy My Rig(s)

3rd Aug 2001, 11:44 PM	#9
Prophetus Old Fart Join Date: Dec. 4th, 1999 Location: ...standing behind you... Posts: 3,093	Whenever you uninstall UT, the folder and registry entries will still exist in your root directory. Always manually delete the orphaned UT folder and registry entries before a reinstall. __________________ Logic separates us from animals. Reasoning by emotion makes you an idiot.

3rd Aug 2001, 11:50 PM	#10
Rooster Local Legend Join Date: Jan. 4th, 2000 Location: Fort Mill, SC Posts: 5,287	But Proph - all that tends to go away when you "Format". __________________ "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and success of liberty." John F. Kennedy My Rig(s)

4th Aug 2001, 06:49 AM	#11
PHATBURNER a.k.a. [DK]_-Outc@st-_ Join Date: Jan. 4th, 2001 Location: Dumfries, Scotland, UK. Posts: 59	I have the same problem...even after I formatted, and UT was the first thing to be installed, without mods of any kind... just GOTY 436 in the raw. That choppy mouse movement in menus is driving me insane! In practice games off-line I can only achieve 18fps ave!! And about 30fps ave on-line I used to get 75fps easy on-line with 1024x768 with eye candy on. Spec is Win ME, 384RAM, D800, GF2 32 mx. I use the latest drivers for everything,but wondered what everybodies opinion was of the multitude of drivers available for my card- Geforce 32mx, is official better, or the beta detonators etc? __________________ "[DK] is not just a clan... it's an attitude to life" http://deadkennedys.org

4th Aug 2001, 03:27 PM	#12
Prophetus Old Fart Join Date: Dec. 4th, 1999 Location: ...standing behind you... Posts: 3,093	Doh, Rooster...I didn't see "Format". I was very tired when I posted that message...yeah...that's it...yeah. __________________ Logic separates us from animals. Reasoning by emotion makes you an idiot.

4th Aug 2001, 10:36 PM	#13
Sparky Retired Administrator Join Date: Dec. 6th, 1999 Location: Australia Posts: 5,871	Proph's a dork, you'll have to excuse him .

5th Aug 2001, 08:34 AM	#14
Prophetus Old Fart Join Date: Dec. 4th, 1999 Location: ...standing behind you... Posts: 3,093	lol... __________________ Logic separates us from animals. Reasoning by emotion makes you an idiot.

5th Aug 2001, 08:38 AM	#15
Flare123 Registered User Join Date: Mar. 17th, 2001 Location: Seattle, washington Posts: 1,980	Prophetus][PuF][ just doesnt know how to use a computer /hands Prophetus][PuF][ a book on mouse clicking.

5th Aug 2001, 12:20 PM	#16
Prophetus Old Fart Join Date: Dec. 4th, 1999 Location: ...standing behind you... Posts: 3,093	/me takes Flare123's book and opens it to chapter 10: "How to kick/ban someone with two clicks of the mouse button" j/k __________________ Logic separates us from animals. Reasoning by emotion makes you an idiot.

5th Aug 2001, 03:55 PM	#17
[IsP]KaRnAgE You Can Be My Wingman Join Date: Jul. 24th, 2001 Location: The Highway to the Danger Zone Posts: 2,809	i've noticed horrible framerates only in vanilla UT Tac ops works fine as does Unreal. Lava Giant and Barricade are the biggest offenders. Also in all 3, the menu temporarily freezes when i go any where in the multiplayer area that isnt related to IRC. For instance im chatting away and i decide to go look for a server.... there is a near 100% chance that during the time im looking for a server, or even the instance i press a tab, that i will get a Freezing episode. This happens between online matches as well (when a match is over and it is switching). This happens on my friends comp as well, though my comp is much more powerful. here are the stats: 800mhz athlon 256mb ram 28gig HD GeForce2 GTS 64mb DSL connection ( though this happened on 56k for me as well) I run U, UT, TO o 1024x768 32bit color and high details, standard video resolution. Nothing is overclocked. __________________ Don't screw around with me Maverick. You're a hell of an instinctive pilot. Maybe too good. I'd like to bust your butt but I can't. I got another problem here. I gotta send somebody from this squadron to Miramar. I gotta do something here, I still can't believe it. I gotta give you your dream shot! I'm gonna send you up against the best. You two characters are going to Top Gun.

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