Alternatives to UnrealEd?

DrWinky · 21st Jun 2001, 01:31 AM

hello all,

After some severe annoyance with unrealEd 2.0 ive decided to throw it int a burning car and fire it to Hull. Now i seek an alternative program to construct a bunch of maps.

Any suggestions?

Thanx in advance.

DrWinky

also, what the hell does ohmed mean?

DeeperShade · 21st Jun 2001, 03:36 AM

UED can be annoying but it's specifically designed for the job. As such its the best program for the job. Apart from that, I dont think there is another editor.

Da_Gunterizer · 21st Jun 2001, 03:45 AM

The only other thing that you could use would be Ued1 which came with Unreal, but I think that it is more of a pain than Ued2.
Check ouy this link for some good tutorials, you need to try the tutorials before you give up.
http://www.planetunreal.com/chimeric/tutorials.html

P.S. Hey deeper cool graphic

DrWinky · 21st Jun 2001, 01:12 PM

Hello again all.

After much deliberation, ive decided to restrict creating mods to the half-life engine.

Why i hear u cry? well, no, probably not, but i'll continue as if i did.

UnrealEd is a pile of festering rhinoserous jism. I followed a basic tutorial, not really hard, made a simple room, and tried to insert a player start, but BUFF all happened. Anyone? can ya help me, or should i just retire, and not tax my simple mind any longer?

8-4-7-2 · 21st Jun 2001, 01:18 PM

Ued is hard at the beginning, but you can make really complext brushes once you get the basic principles. WorldCraft is one big nightmare

We got an editing forum here. Maybe you should post your questions there.
Don't forget to rebuild (F8) the map after every major change and before you play it.

The Lamb · 21st Jun 2001, 01:34 PM

It should be possible to create most of the map design in a 3D vertex based editor (like Milkshape3D or 3DS MAX), then export that mesh into Ued as a .dxf before texturing it and setting spawn points and whatnot.

DeeperShade · 21st Jun 2001, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrWinky
Hello again all.

After much deliberation, ive decided to restrict creating mods to the half-life engine.

Why i hear u cry? well, no, probably not, but i'll continue as if i did.

UnrealEd is a pile of festering rhinoserous jism. I followed a basic tutorial, not really hard, made a simple room, and tried to insert a player start, but BUFF all happened. Anyone? can ya help me, or should i just retire, and not tax my simple mind any longer?

One of the menus will allow you to view the code (see menus at the top, File Edit etc... its on of them)

I'll show a load of things, expand Actor, expand navigation point, select playerstart and the right click somewhere on your map and click player start from the popup that appears

Brute_Force · 21st Jun 2001, 04:08 PM

hehe..yes the editor can be a real pain till you praccy with it for a while like maybe 10-20 hrs..then youll be off n ready for the bigtime.There is a terrain builder that u can pickup from fordy's site here at pu,also some new buttons wich help in your quest to make map building easier.Here is a link that really helped me get started...http://unreal.gamedesign.net/...wolf...BTW your problem with the player start is this....when u last played a game u prob had several bots in play..therefore when u started up your map for testing with only one player start it wasnt enuff to accomadate all the bots tryn to spawn at the same time.Hope this helps ..

Brute_Force · 21st Jun 2001, 04:09 PM

link is just http://unreal.gamedesign.net/

Col Kassad · 21st Jun 2001, 04:33 PM

UnrealEd is the easiest map editor out there. Just grab a beer and read some tutorials.

FireSlash · 21st Jun 2001, 05:05 PM

i used to use WC. though i never got into UED, i learned WC had alot of limitations very fast, and lighting with it was a nightmare (maybe just my version)

DrWinky · 22nd Jun 2001, 12:37 PM

alright everyone,

Final words before i set the redeemer on my hard drive.

I have followed a tutorial, and it is impossible to put a player start on the map. I tried exactly as suggested in one of the posts above. Nothing happens. No icons appear or anything. Compiled it or whatever its called, tried to run. No player start. No matter how many times i try, or in what window, it just doesnt work.

In case its my computer, here are my specs.

AMD K-6 350 MHz

156 Mb of RAM

Voodoo 2 graphics card

and one totally toss motherboard, which is the limiting factor on my PC.

I dont know if this will have any bearing on my ability to do one thing in a program, but i discovered that i cant play music at the same time as mapping, oh well.

I hope someone can help me with this problem, cause i really dont want to have to use Half-life for this mod/map.

cheers all

PS maybe i just need to DL the editor again, so if someone has the link to that it would be useful (Ive tried lookin, but im a m0)

ChrisToth.hu · 22nd Jun 2001, 12:43 PM

We have an Editing forum...

Check this thread.
http://forums.planetunreal.com/showt...811#post577811

8-4-7-2 · 22nd Jun 2001, 12:59 PM

And NEVER EVER add actors in the 2d windows!
Always in the 3d window

Yeah, and this should really be in the editing forum

21st Jun 2001, 01:31 AM	#1
DrWinky i didnt do evil school to be called Mr Join Date: Jun. 20th, 2001 Location: UK Posts: 296	Alternatives to UnrealEd? hello all, After some severe annoyance with unrealEd 2.0 ive decided to throw it int a burning car and fire it to Hull. Now i seek an alternative program to construct a bunch of maps. Any suggestions? Thanx in advance. DrWinky also, what the hell does ohmed mean? __________________ Dissector of Reality and Dreams

21st Jun 2001, 01:12 PM	#4
DrWinky i didnt do evil school to be called Mr Join Date: Jun. 20th, 2001 Location: UK Posts: 296	Damn UnrealEd to Hull! Hello again all. After much deliberation, ive decided to restrict creating mods to the half-life engine. Why i hear u cry? well, no, probably not, but i'll continue as if i did. UnrealEd is a pile of festering rhinoserous jism. I followed a basic tutorial, not really hard, made a simple room, and tried to insert a player start, but BUFF all happened. Anyone? can ya help me, or should i just retire, and not tax my simple mind any longer? __________________ Dissector of Reality and Dreams

21st Jun 2001, 04:08 PM	#8
Brute_Force Registered User Join Date: Jun. 19th, 2001 Location: canada Posts: 108	unrealed hehe..yes the editor can be a real pain till you praccy with it for a while like maybe 10-20 hrs..then youll be off n ready for the bigtime.There is a terrain builder that u can pickup from fordy's site here at pu,also some new buttons wich help in your quest to make map building easier.Here is a link that really helped me get started...http://unreal.gamedesign.net/...wolf...BTW your problem with the player start is this....when u last played a game u prob had several bots in play..therefore when u started up your map for testing with only one player start it wasnt enuff to accomadate all the bots tryn to spawn at the same time.Hope this helps ..

21st Jun 2001, 04:09 PM	#9
Brute_Force Registered User Join Date: Jun. 19th, 2001 Location: canada Posts: 108	oops link is just http://unreal.gamedesign.net/

21st Jun 2001, 05:05 PM	#11
FireSlash Whats a FireSlash? Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2001 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 4,300	i used to use WC. though i never got into UED, i learned WC had alot of limitations very fast, and lighting with it was a nightmare (maybe just my version) __________________ Theory is when you know everything and nothing works. Practice is when things work, and no one knows why. Here we combine theory and practice. Nothing works and no one knows why.

21st Jun 2001, 03:45 AM	#3
Da_Gunterizer Registered User Join Date: Mar. 21st, 2001 Location: My happy place Posts: 67	The only other thing that you could use would be Ued1 which came with Unreal, but I think that it is more of a pain than Ued2. Check ouy this link for some good tutorials, you need to try the tutorials before you give up. http://www.planetunreal.com/chimeric/tutorials.html P.S. Hey deeper cool graphic

21st Jun 2001, 01:18 PM	#5
8-4-7-2 Registered User Join Date: Mar. 6th, 2000 Location: Germany Posts: 6,962	Ued is hard at the beginning, but you can make really complext brushes once you get the basic principles. WorldCraft is one big nightmare We got an editing forum here. Maybe you should post your questions there. Don't forget to rebuild (F8) the map after every major change and before you play it.

21st Jun 2001, 01:34 PM	#6
The Lamb ....With The Plan Join Date: May. 17th, 2000 Location: London Posts: 359	It should be possible to create most of the map design in a 3D vertex based editor (like Milkshape3D or 3DS MAX), then export that mesh into Ued as a .dxf before texturing it and setting spawn points and whatnot.

21st Jun 2001, 04:33 PM	#10
Col Kassad Banz0red Join Date: Mar. 6th, 2001 Posts: 97	UnrealEd is the easiest map editor out there. Just grab a beer and read some tutorials.

22nd Jun 2001, 12:37 PM	#12
DrWinky i didnt do evil school to be called Mr Join Date: Jun. 20th, 2001 Location: UK Posts: 296	but mines knackered alright everyone, Final words before i set the redeemer on my hard drive. I have followed a tutorial, and it is impossible to put a player start on the map. I tried exactly as suggested in one of the posts above. Nothing happens. No icons appear or anything. Compiled it or whatever its called, tried to run. No player start. No matter how many times i try, or in what window, it just doesnt work. In case its my computer, here are my specs. AMD K-6 350 MHz 156 Mb of RAM Voodoo 2 graphics card and one totally toss motherboard, which is the limiting factor on my PC. I dont know if this will have any bearing on my ability to do one thing in a program, but i discovered that i cant play music at the same time as mapping, oh well. I hope someone can help me with this problem, cause i really dont want to have to use Half-life for this mod/map. cheers all PS maybe i just need to DL the editor again, so if someone has the link to that it would be useful (Ive tried lookin, but im a m0) __________________ Dissector of Reality and Dreams

22nd Jun 2001, 12:43 PM	#13
ChrisToth.hu Level Designer Join Date: Oct. 2nd, 2000 Location: Atlantis Posts: 2,740	We have an Editing forum... Check this thread. http://forums.planetunreal.com/showt...811#post577811 __________________ Chris Toth ------------- Chris@message.hu

22nd Jun 2001, 12:59 PM	#14
8-4-7-2 Registered User Join Date: Mar. 6th, 2000 Location: Germany Posts: 6,962	And NEVER EVER add actors in the 2d windows! Always in the 3d window Yeah, and this should really be in the editing forum

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