Bullet holes on targets

C.E.R.T. Boy · 11th Jun 2001, 01:51 PM

I've been wondering about this for a while. Whenever I go to the shooting range and try out the targets I never see any bullet holes. (No comments about my accuracy please) I selecet decals to on, use High world and skin textures. Still no bullet holes... I am playing in software mode though. Could this be my problem?

Someone please let me know.

Thanks

{MUF}Dakin · 11th Jun 2001, 01:53 PM

yeah you wont see bullet wholes in software rendering need direct 3d.

same with blood splats Ibelieve.

DredDamo · 12th Jun 2001, 08:56 AM

It's funny, I've been posting about this for a while, and no one ever said it like that.

The answers were either:

"switch to OpenGL, it rocks!" or
"what are you doing in software, how can you play INF?!" - that's from a moderator

The few people who were actually helpful didn't know, they thought you had to SetDecals=True in the INI (I checked, and it's set to True).

And then you come out of left field and say no decals in software, ever...where did that come from?

Any idea why that is?

[L]-Damodred

C.E.R.T. Boy · 12th Jun 2001, 09:06 AM

Thanks to both of you for your response and your candor.

Even without the bullet holes and blood splatter Inf is the best thing going out there.

Any one else has any thoughts about this or my other post on tweaking my anemic video card please chime in.

Thanks again guys.

C.E.R.T. Boy

Patgod · 12th Jun 2001, 10:36 AM

but seriously, how can u play INF in software?

DredDamo · 12th Jun 2001, 10:38 AM

I don't understand your question...

With mouse and keyboard, I guess. How do you play?

[L]-Damodred

<P^R>Imperial · 12th Jun 2001, 05:47 PM

But the graphics in software are just sooo sh*tty!!!

asmodeus · 12th Jun 2001, 07:34 PM

I have the same problem about the holes but im in d3d

Uppity · 13th Jun 2001, 05:58 AM

I may be wrong but I believe that its down to your "min required framerate" setting. If your framerate drops below this then existing decal disapear in an attempt to up the framrate.

Try setting it to 0 and give it a whirl. Also actually lowering graphical settings may help as that will raise the framerate.

DredDamo · 13th Jun 2001, 06:23 AM

no, the framerate trick doesn't work. The slider is at 0.

Apparently you just won't see bullet holes (decals) in software. Someone said this in another thread here...

With the d3d guy, he might be able to do something with that framerate, and looking in his INI to see if Decals=True.

Finally, to the spoiled person in there - actually, software gives the game a nice warm color effect. I tried d3d and everything's flattened, pastel-like, dull and looks like crap. My card doesn't do opengl. I cannot upgrade the card (laptop). Like many people, I currently don't have the funds to buy a $2,500 desktop machine. Finally, I believe in the concept of gameplay above graphics. Any further questions?

I can also send you some screenshots, and I guarantee they're not horrible

[L]-Damodred

Tommy Atkins · 13th Jun 2001, 06:37 AM

I thought it was just me not being able to hit the target...

Happened under my Voodoo 3 2000 & under my GeForce 2 MX, both in D3D and Glide. Still haven't been able to fix it, and I've already tried the suggestions posted so far...

Shouldn't this be in Troubleshooting?

icee · 13th Jun 2001, 11:55 AM

i have a similair problem i was in d3d tho...i see a few bullet holes, but not every round makes a hole, even when i stand right up there and pound away with the mp5 only about 1 in 5 shots leaves a hole....

Profe · 13th Jun 2001, 12:02 PM

Yep same here. Even when its right in front of me some shots never seem to leave bullet holes. Is it possible that some shots arent getting registered?

asmodeus · 13th Jun 2001, 06:04 PM

yup I get the same too... when in VIEW mode in the shooting range... and my aim isnt that bad!

LCJr. · 14th Jun 2001, 06:19 PM

I've ran INF in Glide, D3D and WickedGL(OpenGL) on my Voodoo3/3000 but so far never in software render. What I've found is:

A. Only about 50% of the bullets left the hole decal below min fps. Around 5 out of 6 leave it above minimum.
B. The time duration they stay is dependant on your framerate. When I had my card on a 450MHz the holes faded in a few seconds but now that its on a 1Gig they seem to stay forever.
C. Unless the puffs of dust/smoke were added in 2.85.5 I never saw them on my old computer just the sparks so that must also be fps dependant.

Think I'll give software a try just for kicks and see what it looks like

Edit>Tried software and no bullet holes firing 150rds pointblank on the target range. Only the sparks showed. My guess is no decals for software render. And your right DredDamo at 1024res it looks pretty good in software mode.

Have to disagree on a new desktop costing $2700 though I just built mine for US$701.

11th Jun 2001, 01:51 PM	#1
C.E.R.T. Boy Warden of the UMC Nuthouse Join Date: May. 8th, 2001 Location: Atlanta GA. U.S.A. Posts: 74	Bullet holes on targets I've been wondering about this for a while. Whenever I go to the shooting range and try out the targets I never see any bullet holes. (No comments about my accuracy please) I selecet decals to on, use High world and skin textures. Still no bullet holes... I am playing in software mode though. Could this be my problem? Someone please let me know. Thanks

11th Jun 2001, 01:53 PM	#2
{MUF}Dakin In it to win it Join Date: Jun. 6th, 2001 Posts: 194	yeah you wont see bullet wholes in software rendering need direct 3d. same with blood splats Ibelieve. __________________ [Sig Deleted - too big]

12th Jun 2001, 08:56 AM	#3
DredDamo <? l337 php RealMaps c0d0r ?> Join Date: Nov. 30th, 2000 Posts: 591	It's funny, I've been posting about this for a while, and no one ever said it like that. The answers were either: "switch to OpenGL, it rocks!" or "what are you doing in software, how can you play INF?!" - that's from a moderator The few people who were actually helpful didn't know, they thought you had to SetDecals=True in the INI (I checked, and it's set to True). And then you come out of left field and say no decals in software, ever...where did that come from? Any idea why that is? [L]-Damodred __________________ --- RealMaps Admin / MapHaxx0r Extraordinaire / PHP Fanboy www.damodred.net \| realmaps.beyondunreal.com \| www.zengamer.com --- Teh Vedder - I kinda like being editor... maybe I'll recruit a bunch of monkeys to my bidding er reviews and I'll edit them to perfection muwhaha

12th Jun 2001, 09:06 AM	#4
C.E.R.T. Boy Warden of the UMC Nuthouse Join Date: May. 8th, 2001 Location: Atlanta GA. U.S.A. Posts: 74	So what's the real answer? Thanks to both of you for your response and your candor. Even without the bullet holes and blood splatter Inf is the best thing going out there. Any one else has any thoughts about this or my other post on tweaking my anemic video card please chime in. Thanks again guys. C.E.R.T. Boy

12th Jun 2001, 10:38 AM	#6
DredDamo <? l337 php RealMaps c0d0r ?> Join Date: Nov. 30th, 2000 Posts: 591	I don't understand your question... With mouse and keyboard, I guess. How do you play? [L]-Damodred __________________ --- RealMaps Admin / MapHaxx0r Extraordinaire / PHP Fanboy www.damodred.net \| realmaps.beyondunreal.com \| www.zengamer.com --- Teh Vedder - I kinda like being editor... maybe I'll recruit a bunch of monkeys to my bidding er reviews and I'll edit them to perfection muwhaha

12th Jun 2001, 10:36 AM	#5
Patgod More sexy then Yurch Join Date: Apr. 1st, 2001 Location: The place you were about to look Posts: 79	but seriously, how can u play INF in software?

12th Jun 2001, 05:47 PM	#7
<P^R>Imperial Bleh Join Date: Mar. 19th, 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 730	But the graphics in software are just sooo sh*tty!!! __________________

12th Jun 2001, 07:34 PM	#8
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	I have the same problem about the holes but im in d3d __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

13th Jun 2001, 05:58 AM	#9
Uppity Registered User Join Date: Apr. 17th, 2001 Location: NE England (We hang monkeys) Posts: 454	I may be wrong but I believe that its down to your "min required framerate" setting. If your framerate drops below this then existing decal disapear in an attempt to up the framrate. Try setting it to 0 and give it a whirl. Also actually lowering graphical settings may help as that will raise the framerate.

13th Jun 2001, 06:23 AM	#10
DredDamo <? l337 php RealMaps c0d0r ?> Join Date: Nov. 30th, 2000 Posts: 591	no, the framerate trick doesn't work. The slider is at 0. Apparently you just won't see bullet holes (decals) in software. Someone said this in another thread here... With the d3d guy, he might be able to do something with that framerate, and looking in his INI to see if Decals=True. Finally, to the spoiled person in there - actually, software gives the game a nice warm color effect. I tried d3d and everything's flattened, pastel-like, dull and looks like crap. My card doesn't do opengl. I cannot upgrade the card (laptop). Like many people, I currently don't have the funds to buy a $2,500 desktop machine. Finally, I believe in the concept of gameplay above graphics. Any further questions? I can also send you some screenshots, and I guarantee they're not horrible [L]-Damodred __________________ --- RealMaps Admin / MapHaxx0r Extraordinaire / PHP Fanboy www.damodred.net \| realmaps.beyondunreal.com \| www.zengamer.com --- Teh Vedder - I kinda like being editor... maybe I'll recruit a bunch of monkeys to my bidding er reviews and I'll edit them to perfection muwhaha

13th Jun 2001, 06:37 AM	#11
Tommy Atkins Older, but no wiser Join Date: Mar. 17th, 2001 Location: UK Posts: 375	Same prob I thought it was just me not being able to hit the target... Happened under my Voodoo 3 2000 & under my GeForce 2 MX, both in D3D and Glide. Still haven't been able to fix it, and I've already tried the suggestions posted so far... Shouldn't this be in Troubleshooting?

13th Jun 2001, 11:55 AM	#12
icee Registered User Join Date: May. 17th, 2001 Posts: 8	i have a similair problem i was in d3d tho...i see a few bullet holes, but not every round makes a hole, even when i stand right up there and pound away with the mp5 only about 1 in 5 shots leaves a hole....

13th Jun 2001, 12:02 PM	#13
Profe Posts: 918,731 Join Date: Jun. 12th, 2001 Posts: 1,034	Yep same here. Even when its right in front of me some shots never seem to leave bullet holes. Is it possible that some shots arent getting registered?

13th Jun 2001, 06:04 PM	#14
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	yup I get the same too... when in VIEW mode in the shooting range... and my aim isnt that bad! __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

14th Jun 2001, 06:19 PM	#15
LCJr. Registered User Join Date: Apr. 14th, 2001 Posts: 602	I've ran INF in Glide, D3D and WickedGL(OpenGL) on my Voodoo3/3000 but so far never in software render. What I've found is: A. Only about 50% of the bullets left the hole decal below min fps. Around 5 out of 6 leave it above minimum. B. The time duration they stay is dependant on your framerate. When I had my card on a 450MHz the holes faded in a few seconds but now that its on a 1Gig they seem to stay forever. C. Unless the puffs of dust/smoke were added in 2.85.5 I never saw them on my old computer just the sparks so that must also be fps dependant. Think I'll give software a try just for kicks and see what it looks like Edit>Tried software and no bullet holes firing 150rds pointblank on the target range. Only the sparks showed. My guess is no decals for software render. And your right DredDamo at 1024res it looks pretty good in software mode. Have to disagree on a new desktop costing $2700 though I just built mine for US$701. Last edited by LCJr.; 14th Jun 2001 at 06:33 PM.

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