Testing PNGs with alpha transparency

Zundfolge · 8th Mar 2001, 11:56 AM

If you go here http://www.panic.com/audion/faces.php they have little .png images that pop up when you click the thumbnail of each of the skins. Well I posted something about using pngs because of their alpha transparency in 04s thread but all my posts seem to have dissapeared.

Anyway, I'm going to attach one of those images to the forum to illustrate the cool transparency you get with .png images (notice the faded drop shadow).

Lets watch....

Zundfolge · 8th Mar 2001, 11:58 AM

one more time to show it on the second background color (BTW this is the skin I use for the mp3 player on my Mac at work)

Zundfolge · 8th Mar 2001, 12:02 PM

it only seems to work on Macs.
(I uploaded them from my G4 and then went over to the PIII running Win98 that's in my office and it didn't work there)

and for some reason all my posting in 04s thread reappeared (I'm one confused little puppy

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Farouk · 8th Mar 2001, 12:25 PM

The board seems to be not working correctly at the moment. I get several strange things.

04 · 8th Mar 2001, 04:47 PM

i dont think it's a board issue....that would be awesome if i could get that one sig working with transparency

Eliwar · 8th Mar 2001, 05:30 PM

I can see it....

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Project Leader/ Lead Artist
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04 · 8th Mar 2001, 05:36 PM

BTW, whats the file compression with PNGs like?

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Zundfolge · 8th Mar 2001, 05:47 PM

All I know about PNG compression is that it's NOT lossy (like .jpg is)

here's a tech article

http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngpics.html

It does seem however that software (specificaly www browsers) for Mac and *nix machines seem to be able to handle them better. IE 5 on the Mac is the best at it (I think IE and OutlookExpress on the Mac are a lot better then their windows cousins)
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BA Baracus · 9th Mar 2001, 01:32 AM

yep, macs only. works on my OS X box at home, but not my NT box at work

i pity the fool who don't eat my cereal!

Alpha_9 · 9th Mar 2001, 12:05 PM

Hey, this is cool stuff. Do you know if animated png's are possible?

Infiltration Battlegrounds

Zundfolge · 9th Mar 2001, 12:11 PM

Damn it's just too bad that you guys can't see these on a windows machine.

I wonder if Windows 2000 is able to see them as transparent though (it's my understanding that it basicaly uses png for it's menus and other alpha transparent items).

I think it has more to do with the Mac IE design team who seemed to have kicked their Windows buddies asses, I've said it before but Mac IE and OE are a whole lot better then the Windows version (hell the Mac version of OE is better then the full version of Outlook you have to pay money for on Windows).

One minor bug though with Mac IE, when I look at attached screenshots (not linked images but screenshots posted as an attachment) it screws them up a bit.)

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DarkBls · 9th Mar 2001, 12:40 PM

I can stand for the JPG 2000...

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Catalyst · 9th Mar 2001, 12:42 PM

Negative on the transparency and Win2000. Looks the same as Win98.

<FONT SIZE=2 color="#A5AA56">Catalyst</FONT>

8th Mar 2001, 11:56 AM	#1
Zundfolge Registered User Join Date: Dec. 13th, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 5,703	Testing PNGs with alpha transparency If you go here http://www.panic.com/audion/faces.php they have little .png images that pop up when you click the thumbnail of each of the skins. Well I posted something about using pngs because of their alpha transparency in 04s thread but all my posts seem to have dissapeared. Anyway, I'm going to attach one of those images to the forum to illustrate the cool transparency you get with .png images (notice the faded drop shadow). Lets watch....

8th Mar 2001, 12:02 PM	#3
Zundfolge Registered User Join Date: Dec. 13th, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 5,703	it only seems to work on Macs. (I uploaded them from my G4 and then went over to the PIII running Win98 that's in my office and it didn't work there) and for some reason all my posting in 04s thread reappeared (I'm one confused little puppy ) <center></center>

8th Mar 2001, 05:30 PM	#6
Eliwar - Join Date: Aug. 14th, 1999 Posts: 1,406	_-_ I can see it.... Legends Reborn Project Leader/ Lead Artist http://planetunreal.com/legends

9th Mar 2001, 12:11 PM	#11
Zundfolge Registered User Join Date: Dec. 13th, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 5,703	Damn it's just too bad that you guys can't see these on a windows machine. I wonder if Windows 2000 is able to see them as transparent though (it's my understanding that it basicaly uses png for it's menus and other alpha transparent items). I think it has more to do with the Mac IE design team who seemed to have kicked their Windows buddies asses, I've said it before but Mac IE and OE are a whole lot better then the Windows version (hell the Mac version of OE is better then the full version of Outlook you have to pay money for on Windows). One minor bug though with Mac IE, when I look at attached screenshots (not linked images but screenshots posted as an attachment) it screws them up a bit.) <center></center>

9th Mar 2001, 12:40 PM	#12
DarkBls Inf Ex-admin Join Date: Mar. 5th, 2000 Location: France Posts: 4,551	JPG2000 I can stand for the JPG 2000... <p align="center"><img border="0" src="http://unreal.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?s=10009422&a=ga&ul=8280981901" width="208" height="300">

8th Mar 2001, 11:58 AM	#2
Zundfolge Registered User Join Date: Dec. 13th, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 5,703	one more time to show it on the second background color (BTW this is the skin I use for the mp3 player on my Mac at work)

8th Mar 2001, 12:25 PM	#4
Farouk Adept Join Date: Oct. 19th, 2000 Location: Germany Posts: 471	The board seems to be not working correctly at the moment. I get several strange things.

8th Mar 2001, 04:47 PM	#5
04 New and Improved Join Date: Jul. 6th, 2000 Posts: 873	i dont think it's a board issue....that would be awesome if i could get that one sig working with transparency

8th Mar 2001, 05:36 PM	#7
04 New and Improved Join Date: Jul. 6th, 2000 Posts: 873	BTW, whats the file compression with PNGs like? <center> </center>

8th Mar 2001, 05:47 PM	#8
Zundfolge Registered User Join Date: Dec. 13th, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 5,703	All I know about PNG compression is that it's NOT lossy (like .jpg is) here's a tech article http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngpics.html It does seem however that software (specificaly www browsers) for Mac and *nix machines seem to be able to handle them better. IE 5 on the Mac is the best at it (I think IE and OutlookExpress on the Mac are a lot better then their windows cousins) <center> </center>

9th Mar 2001, 01:32 AM	#9
BA Baracus I pity the fool! Join Date: Oct. 17th, 2000 Location: texas Posts: 571	yep, macs only. works on my OS X box at home, but not my NT box at work i pity the fool who don't eat my cereal!

9th Mar 2001, 12:05 PM	#10
Alpha_9 Infiltration lead level designer Join Date: Jun. 1st, 2000 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,493	Hey, this is cool stuff. Do you know if animated png's are possible? Infiltration Battlegrounds

9th Mar 2001, 12:42 PM	#13
Catalyst science begets death Join Date: Jul. 18th, 1999 Location: CA, USA Posts: 1,385	Negative on the transparency and Win2000. Looks the same as Win98. <FONT SIZE=2 color="#A5AA56">Catalyst</FONT>

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