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View Poll Results: Is having 2 "Primary" type weapons cheap?
YES!!! I hate all you cheaters 23 39.66%
NO!!! thats why the guns a have straps 21 36.21%
Yes, but I'm gonna milk it till they fix it 14 24.14%
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Old 13th May 2001, 03:57 PM   #1
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Old 13th May 2001, 04:59 PM   #2
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Once there is the new tweaked bulk system I think it will become more of an impairment than a benefit
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Old 13th May 2001, 05:27 PM   #3
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Question

Is the H&K 69A1 Grenade launcher a primary weapon?If it is nobody will use it if you can only have one primary and then the M203 whores will really start to own.

Penalizing the bulk values of the M203 (it's specific values) and those of the 40 mm greandes are IMHO the wrong way to go about solving the issues people have with them. Arming distance and bounce are more important, at least to me, but it doesn't seem the INF team is going to do anything about those 2 things.
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Old 13th May 2001, 06:20 PM   #4
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The problem of how much stuff one can carry is a relevant one. There is a problem if someone walks around with every weapon thats available and can acturlly use any of them (you simply can't pack that many weapons on your body and still use any of them effectivly. Much less change weapons quickly). Now if they would automatically pull around a little red wagon with the weapons in. It would be fine

But 1 'primary weapons' (I persume that's everything bug 'nades and pistols and HK69) is too strict a limit. There is nothing stopping anyone from having a SIG551 (or M16) and a shootgun with them at all times. Personally I prefer that combo over having a pistol as the 'secondary'. The Shootgun is much more effective in closed quarters and short range than a pistol. And there is really no limitations in the game that makes a pistol more useful then a rifle in a situatiuon.

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Old 13th May 2001, 06:52 PM   #5
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When the new bulk system comes in I won't consider it cheap to carry 3 or even 4 primary weapons, because you would have to balance your mix of capabilities wth the penalty they incure.
Right now I think it's approiate for someone to carry two at max.
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Old 13th May 2001, 06:59 PM   #6
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I don't loadout with more than one primary weapon but if I see one lying around on the ground, I may pick it up depending on the situation.
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Old 13th May 2001, 07:27 PM   #7
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When the PDW and Mini-Uzi comes in it will surely balance some of this out. (for example Snipers with a Mini-Uzi or PDW etc etc)
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Old 13th May 2001, 07:37 PM   #8
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Post Hmmm.....

Having more than 1 primary is not ......... cheap I guess.
This point will become moot (thanx poaw) once the new bulk system is in place, I'd imagine having more than 1 primary weapon will be detrimental. Right now, with the bulk system as it is, having more than 1 primary weapon is used by everyone so its not really cheap.
But once the bulk system is in place, lighter users will have to take a handgun, while people favoring more firepower will be taking the PDW, Mini-uzi, and (not sure about bulk here) the Remington.
All this has been said but I thought I would re-inforce.
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Old 13th May 2001, 07:58 PM   #9
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Acording to the armoury, the remmington will have only a bulk of 4, so it will be useable as a sidearm.
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Old 13th May 2001, 08:01 PM   #10
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The word you were looking for is moot
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Many people choose to only use a single primary weapon. I limit myself to either a PSG-1, M3, or M16/203 and take a Desert Eagle for a backup.
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Old 13th May 2001, 08:42 PM   #11
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once there are more 'PDW' type weapons in the game, it will be less of an issue. if i were a special forces sniper, i would much rather have a MP5K PDW than a beretta, and i'm sure i would be able to carry one along with my robar, which is my planned loadout once it makes it in. i think it's alright, i have a robar, and a MP5, and my bulk is 22, well within reasonable limits i feel.
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Old 13th May 2001, 09:17 PM   #12
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I figure if I won't be able to do it in the future I'm not gonna do it now, because then I won't have to adjust.
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Old 15th May 2001, 01:51 AM   #13
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primary weapons

i carry a fully loaded shotgun, fully loaded mp5, a swat team gun with scope for snipe, and fully loaded m16 without scope.

I think what i need is some iron armor now.

if i can detach the sniper scope from my gun, i would only carry either m16 or the swat gun. There are just time when the scope gets in my way, so i carry them both to switch...
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Old 15th May 2001, 02:23 AM   #14
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what the hell is a swat gun?
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Old 15th May 2001, 02:25 AM   #15
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Old 15th May 2001, 02:34 AM   #16
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oh me is a idoit

I normally hear it being refered to as Sig or 551
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Old 15th May 2001, 03:42 AM   #17
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I think INF is meant as a simulation, with the primary goal being ultimately realistic.
And I do not think that there are so many soldiers out there which are carrying a Robar, a M16 with M203 and a MP5.

And because INF is not yet tweaked to make loadouts like this impossible, I think that using such a loadout is exploiting a bug in INF.
And this is bug-using and therefore ... cheating

just my two cents ...
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Old 15th May 2001, 05:15 AM   #18
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I voted no but....

I would like to qualify it a little. Shotguns can be carried on your back in a sheath. Submachineguns aren't longrifles. I think a shotgun and a longrifle of some sort or a longrifle and smg isn't necessarily 'cheating' or 'cheap', since these weapons are in sort of a grey area in my opinion.
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Old 15th May 2001, 07:53 AM   #19
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Re: I voted no but....

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I would like to qualify it a little. Shotguns can be carried on your back in a sheath. Submachineguns aren't longrifles. I think a shotgun and a longrifle of some sort or a longrifle and smg isn't necessarily 'cheating' or 'cheap', since these weapons are in sort of a grey area in my opinion.
LOL id like to see you carry a Benelli in a sheath...
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Old 15th May 2001, 07:59 AM   #20
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The benelli is way ver a meter long, I'd like to see you lug that and a robar around while doing 20Mph and aiming down a scope.
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