Poll: Should U2 have a translocator?

Tetris L · 20th Mar 2001, 08:56 PM

Should U2 have a translocator? I'm referring mostly to U2's CTF here.

I'd say yes, but I'd like to see it's power reduced. Either give it limited ammo, so that you have to pick up ammo for it. Or give it a recharge rate, for example one translocation takes 1 ammo, it recharges with 1 ammo per 3 second to a maximum of 10 ammo.

WiLD2 · 20th Mar 2001, 09:27 PM

There will be an x-loc in Unreal 2, as far as I know, but it will have ammo (non-renewing I hope, so you have to pick it up from the ground). So you can tele-spam all you want... right up until you shoot it once but don't have enough ammo to continue the tele-train and you fall straight down the cliff you just jumped off to avoid that snipers bullet

I think Legend Entertainment knows what they are doing when they are making this.

*hal* · 20th Mar 2001, 10:38 PM

Why would you say that?

I'm with you, Cleaner. When I first heard of the idea of the x-loc, I thought, "Great! Now all of the Grapple/Beamer m0nkies will lose their 'wings'. I like it.". Now, in practice, you can see that it has been pushed to the extreme.

I think something along the lines of ammo usage would be fair. In particular, I'm thinking about the Beamer in RealCTF that recharged when not in use. I think that slowing the rate of fire a little more would be helpful too.

Tetris L · 27th Mar 2001, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiLD2
There will be an x-loc in Unreal 2, as far as I know, but it will have ammo ...

Where did you read or hear that? A link to the source of this info would be highly appreciated.

WiLD2 · 27th Mar 2001, 03:01 PM

I read it on the official Unreal 2 forum. That's why I said as far as I know. Sorry if I led people to believe that I actually speak the truth

This early into the game it's all speculation and I don't think there's any solid information.

*hal* · 28th Mar 2001, 07:37 AM

All of the "solid" information is posted on Legend's U2 website. All of the stuff in the "official" U2 forum is purely speculative, unless Sam Brown or Mathias Worch post it.

LordKhaine · 29th Mar 2001, 10:13 AM

U2 will have huge open areas. And as it is, people would just teletrain across them. Which lets face it, wouldnt be fun.

UnrealGrrl · 3rd Apr 2001, 10:03 AM

YES! unless the (multiplayer) game play is changed SO much as to render it useless or overpowerful
its an integral part of the game... leave it alone...
one of the few things that shouldnt be adjusted at all :> got it?! good!

i could see it having to recharge or use ammo if done carefully tho...

Tarantella · 4th Apr 2001, 04:26 PM

It should definitely be energy dependant. Slow intermittent use would use little power allowing easy recharge. Fast short bursts would drain the energy pack quickly needing a significantly longer recharge time.

If it was completely drained the module could let off a beep then with a five second countdown (giving time to drop or throw it) it would explode doing splash damage and leaving the player without a translocator.

Maybe spare units might be available as pick ups.

This would all lead to thoughtful tactical play but map design would be critical.

UnrealGrrl · 5th Apr 2001, 01:30 PM

im not the best tl handler but ive gotten ok... sure tl crazy players can be a lil annoying BUT, what im thinking of is map design...

theres lotsa maps that would be unplayable to one extent or another with no tl... and large maps would suffer (and im hoping for lotsa big beautiful maps!)
the tl is one of ut's most unique attributes and hope it doesnt change too much...
i think the slight slow down of the tl that was made did help a little with the tl master abusers out there...

Hellscrag · 7th Apr 2001, 05:07 AM

I think it should recharge, like Unreal's Dispersion Pistol

Hey, here's an idea, how about collectible Translocator powerups like Dispersion Pistol powerups in the original game?

Zaccix · 10th Apr 2001, 07:19 AM

Look at WFUT's translocator. Ammo-based, and works like a charm. That's how U2's TL should be.

ASMDstick · 15th Apr 2001, 05:16 PM

Just an idea. What if xLoc would use ur health instead of ammo, sort of hummerjump like , but not as much.
Say 5 health points per shot. If u r gonna teletrain u'll have to go though all health pickups or just be careful.
I'd like the xLoc power reduced somehow.

View Poll Results: Should U2 CTF have a Translocator?
Yes!	16	44.44%
Yes, but not as respawn weapon.	1	2.78%
Yes, but with reduced power.	9	25.00%
No, not at all.	10	27.78%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

20th Mar 2001, 08:56 PM	#1
Tetris L Smartass Join Date: Feb. 15th, 2000 Location: Germany Posts: 3,136	Should U2 have a translocator? I'm referring mostly to U2's CTF here. I'd say yes, but I'd like to see it's power reduced. Either give it limited ammo, so that you have to pick up ammo for it. Or give it a recharge rate, for example one translocation takes 1 ammo, it recharges with 1 ammo per 3 second to a maximum of 10 ammo. __________________ ¤ Tetris L ¤ The L-shaped Tetris Block, not the pansy 4x1 Block ¤ Last edited by Tetris L; 20th Mar 2001 at 09:04 PM.

20th Mar 2001, 09:27 PM	#2
WiLD2 W4NG Join Date: Sep. 17th, 2000 Location: No place feels like home Posts: 1,124	There will be an x-loc in Unreal 2, as far as I know, but it will have ammo (non-renewing I hope, so you have to pick it up from the ground). So you can tele-spam all you want... right up until you shoot it once but don't have enough ammo to continue the tele-train and you fall straight down the cliff you just jumped off to avoid that snipers bullet I think Legend Entertainment knows what they are doing when they are making this. __________________ Heya

20th Mar 2001, 10:38 PM	#3
hal Dictator Join Date: Nov. 24th, 1998 Location: -------> Posts: 21,340	There will be an x-loc in Unreal 2, as far as I know Why would you say that? I'm with you, Cleaner. When I first heard of the idea of the x-loc, I thought, "Great! Now all of the Grapple/Beamer m0nkies will lose their 'wings'. I like it.". Now, in practice, you can see that it has been pushed to the extreme. I think something along the lines of ammo usage would be fair. In particular, I'm thinking about the Beamer in RealCTF that recharged when not in use. I think that slowing the rate of fire a little more would be helpful too. __________________

27th Mar 2001, 03:01 PM	#5
WiLD2 W4NG Join Date: Sep. 17th, 2000 Location: No place feels like home Posts: 1,124	I read it on the official Unreal 2 forum. That's why I said as far as I know. Sorry if I led people to believe that I actually speak the truth This early into the game it's all speculation and I don't think there's any solid information. __________________ Heya

28th Mar 2001, 07:37 AM	#6
hal Dictator Join Date: Nov. 24th, 1998 Location: -------> Posts: 21,340	All of the "solid" information is posted on Legend's U2 website. All of the stuff in the "official" U2 forum is purely speculative, unless Sam Brown or Mathias Worch post it. __________________

29th Mar 2001, 10:13 AM	#7
LordKhaine I sing the body electric... Join Date: Dec. 6th, 1999 Location: UK Posts: 5,635	U2 will have huge open areas. And as it is, people would just teletrain across them. Which lets face it, wouldnt be fun. __________________ ~LordKhaine~ All your hidden faces, Your seven veils unfold. Give me forbidden places, All your tales untold. Give me ever and always, Ever and always, Body and soul

3rd Apr 2001, 10:03 AM	#8
UnrealGrrl Enemy flag carrier is Her! Join Date: Jun. 16th, 2000 Posts: 1,684	YES! unless the (multiplayer) game play is changed SO much as to render it useless or overpowerful its an integral part of the game... leave it alone... one of the few things that shouldnt be adjusted at all :> got it?! good! i could see it having to recharge or use ammo if done carefully tho... __________________ Sioux www.unrealgrrl.com

4th Apr 2001, 04:26 PM	#9
Tarantella Dances with spiders. Join Date: Apr. 1st, 2001 Posts: 102	It should definitely be energy dependant. Slow intermittent use would use little power allowing easy recharge. Fast short bursts would drain the energy pack quickly needing a significantly longer recharge time. If it was completely drained the module could let off a beep then with a five second countdown (giving time to drop or throw it) it would explode doing splash damage and leaving the player without a translocator. Maybe spare units might be available as pick ups. This would all lead to thoughtful tactical play but map design would be critical.

5th Apr 2001, 01:30 PM	#10
UnrealGrrl Enemy flag carrier is Her! Join Date: Jun. 16th, 2000 Posts: 1,684	im not the best tl handler but ive gotten ok... sure tl crazy players can be a lil annoying BUT, what im thinking of is map design... theres lotsa maps that would be unplayable to one extent or another with no tl... and large maps would suffer (and im hoping for lotsa big beautiful maps!) the tl is one of ut's most unique attributes and hope it doesnt change too much... i think the slight slow down of the tl that was made did help a little with the tl master abusers out there... __________________ Sioux www.unrealgrrl.com

7th Apr 2001, 05:07 AM	#11
Hellscrag UnrealSP'er Join Date: Nov. 10th, 1999 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 1,775	I think it should recharge, like Unreal's Dispersion Pistol Hey, here's an idea, how about collectible Translocator powerups like Dispersion Pistol powerups in the original game? __________________ Keeping the Unreal SP community alive: http://www.unrealsp.org. My Unreal Tournament mapping portfolio: http://www.hellscrag.net.

10th Apr 2001, 07:19 AM	#12
Zaccix Truth, by Banksy Join Date: Nov. 10th, 1999 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,369	Look at WFUT's translocator. Ammo-based, and works like a charm. That's how U2's TL should be. __________________ *Zaccix* // DeckConstruct // Unit Forward Pittsburgh Penguins for life! Supporter of the Gamer's Bill of Rights

15th Apr 2001, 05:16 PM	#13
ASMDstick Registered User Join Date: Mar. 22nd, 2001 Posts: 275	Just an idea. What if xLoc would use ur health instead of ammo, sort of hummerjump like , but not as much. Say 5 health points per shot. If u r gonna teletrain u'll have to go though all health pickups or just be careful. I'd like the xLoc power reduced somehow.

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