you're a genious if you can solve my problem!

<fska>Eliminator · 18th Feb 2001, 11:15 AM

hi,.

my UT doesn't run smooth anymore, it shows me 50-60 frames constantly, but it slows down and speeds up all the time, it's almost not noticable, but it's there and it's soooo annoying !!!

example: i'm walking in a straight line, as soon as i switch weapons it slows down for a fraction of a second. this only happens in direct 3d mode, software works fine, but who want's software ?

my hardware:

1.1 Ghz thunderbird
256 ram
3d prophet GTSII Pro 64 mb
ASUS A7V mainboard

i have tried everything: i changed almost every component, mainboard, harddrive, even the processor.

i reinstalled windows several times, i also removed all other cards like network, soundcard,.

nothing works !!!

please help me !!!!
greetings from <fska>Eliminator

FireSlash · 18th Feb 2001, 04:59 PM

most likly somthing running in the background, like a IM service, possibly CPUidle if you run it or MBM. maybe a virus checker, somthing that needs the hard drive for a split second, and HD access really kills proformance. try uninstalling those. CPU idle has a "disable on high CPU load" that you shoulc check again if you use CPU idle

·s¥n·Jihad · 18th Feb 2001, 06:56 PM

Here are the things I would try in your situation:

1. Defrag your hard drive. This can lead to slight performance improvments.

2. In your virtual memory settings, make sure you have a static swap file, in other words, set your own virtual memory, usually around 150-250MB.

3. In your Advanced Preferences in UT (type preferences at the console), make sure your cache size is around 8-12MB.

Check this guide out for some more help as well: http://www.3dspotlight.com/tweaks/ut/index.shtml

<fska>Eliminator · 19th Feb 2001, 03:45 PM

hey thanks for the tips !

i also realized that the game slows down when accessing the harddrive, in quake too,
but i have an ATA-100 IBM, 7200rpm and even that i changed last month with a maxtor.

defragging didn't help either, i did that before,.

ok, i changed the cache and virtual memory, same problem

please give me more tips, need to know more about my system ?
anything i can change in my card settings ??

CPU idle,. i don't have any programs installed, just standard winME,

hmm,. HELP ! i'm going to a LAN-Party soon,..
cya
Eliminator

ZenPirate · 19th Feb 2001, 04:32 PM

quick question.Have you updated WinME?Because WinME originally had some swap file problems as well as disk caching issues.Check Microsoft's website,and if you've already done that.. well...nevermind

<fska>Eliminator · 19th Feb 2001, 06:06 PM

no i didn't update winme yet, but i was just surfing the ms page for about an hour and there were only a few updates availabe, things like I Explorer Service Pack's 'n stuff like that,

could you tell me what update you we're talking about ?
thanks

<fska>Eliminator

ZenPirate · 19th Feb 2001, 08:23 PM

I recall it being there when I did one of the first "Auto-Updates".If you don't see it,you probably already have it.But I'll hunt around and post a link if I find something.

actorindp · 19th Feb 2001, 08:42 PM

I'm not sure specificlly, but i know the thunderbird and durons, don;t work well with certain video cards, and mess em up, I dunno which ones speciffically thoiugh, sry

<fska>Eliminator · 20th Feb 2001, 05:26 AM

yeah i did the auto update and it didn't show anything important to update, i probably already have it,.

athlon's + dunron's with GTSII Pro,.
it works fine because my friend has almost the same hardware, without any problems.

plus it used to work at the beginning when i just got the PC,.thanksö and cya

<fska>Eliminator

-[IMD1]-K!llRoy · 20th Feb 2001, 10:10 AM

did you change the drivers for your 3D card? If so did you make sure you deinstalled de previous one correctly?

Frist you go to system and remove the GTS II pro video adaptor.

Then you go to thing where you change your colours and stuff in controll panel (sorry i have a Dutch Windows, dunno what its called in English) and go to advanced. and change the adaptor to standand VGA.

REstart and install the new GTS drivers,
If you dont install the D3 drivers like this it will conflict with the other ones that were there.

If you did this, well i dunno what your problem is..

<fska>Eliminator · 20th Feb 2001, 10:38 AM

yeah i did a clean install on the drivers.
that's not it.

you know what, everytime i have a problem with something, then it's definetly serious and probably not even bill gates could solve it !

i think it's time to sell my PC.,.
cya

Crager · 20th Feb 2001, 11:19 AM

Try this utility http://www.tweakfiles.com/memory/cacheman.html

I've been using this for about 6 weeks now and it works great.

[BUF]Diving_Mullah · 20th Feb 2001, 01:14 PM

I kind of had the same problem but running in win 98, I went to hard drive under systems and checked the DMA setting, don't know why but the problem went away after that.

<fska>Eliminator · 20th Feb 2001, 01:25 PM

Hey It works again !!!!

i installed cacheman, put in on the WinME/3Dgames setting, and it works perfect !!
even Quake improved !

thanks Blaze-22 ! you can make a cross in your calender for making a person happy on the 20/02/2001.

even better ! it seems to have made the settings permanent, so even when disbling the program i don't have any problems any more!

next week I'm getting my new Razor Boomslang 2000, then i'm gonna be UNFRAGABLE !!!

case closed, thanks for helping !

<fska>Eliminator

Swiss LAN-Party: http://www.unfragable.ch
Organizers ClanPage: http://www.fska.net
both down at times,. hehe

Valk · 20th Feb 2001, 01:40 PM

When I setup my system, I made a partion dedicated for the swap file. This greatly improved my UT performance. I assume it's similar to what the app does.

<fska>Eliminator · 20th Feb 2001, 02:51 PM

hey that's a pretty good idea, i'll keep that in mind.

i forgot to mention that now it takes about 1-2 minutes for UT to start,,.

who cares !! my FPS are back to the rootz ! hehe
cya

18th Feb 2001, 11:15 AM	#1
<fska>Eliminator Registered User Join Date: Feb. 18th, 2001 Posts: 7	you're a genious if you can solve my problem ! hi,. my UT doesn't run smooth anymore, it shows me 50-60 frames constantly, but it slows down and speeds up all the time, it's almost not noticable, but it's there and it's soooo annoying !!! example: i'm walking in a straight line, as soon as i switch weapons it slows down for a fraction of a second. this only happens in direct 3d mode, software works fine, but who want's software ? my hardware: 1.1 Ghz thunderbird 256 ram 3d prophet GTSII Pro 64 mb ASUS A7V mainboard i have tried everything: i changed almost every component, mainboard, harddrive, even the processor. i reinstalled windows several times, i also removed all other cards like network, soundcard,. nothing works !!! please help me !!!! greetings from <fska>Eliminator

18th Feb 2001, 04:59 PM	#2
FireSlash Whats a FireSlash? Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2001 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 4,300	most likly somthing running in the background, like a IM service, possibly CPUidle if you run it or MBM. maybe a virus checker, somthing that needs the hard drive for a split second, and HD access really kills proformance. try uninstalling those. CPU idle has a "disable on high CPU load" that you shoulc check again if you use CPU idle __________________ Theory is when you know everything and nothing works. Practice is when things work, and no one knows why. Here we combine theory and practice. Nothing works and no one knows why.

19th Feb 2001, 03:45 PM	#4
<fska>Eliminator Registered User Join Date: Feb. 18th, 2001 Posts: 7	thanks,. hey thanks for the tips ! i also realized that the game slows down when accessing the harddrive, in quake too, but i have an ATA-100 IBM, 7200rpm and even that i changed last month with a maxtor. defragging didn't help either, i did that before,. ok, i changed the cache and virtual memory, same problem please give me more tips, need to know more about my system ? anything i can change in my card settings ?? CPU idle,. i don't have any programs installed, just standard winME, hmm,. HELP ! i'm going to a LAN-Party soon,.. cya Eliminator

19th Feb 2001, 06:06 PM	#6
<fska>Eliminator Registered User Join Date: Feb. 18th, 2001 Posts: 7	update no i didn't update winme yet, but i was just surfing the ms page for about an hour and there were only a few updates availabe, things like I Explorer Service Pack's 'n stuff like that, could you tell me what update you we're talking about ? thanks <fska>Eliminator

19th Feb 2001, 08:42 PM	#8
actorindp Registered User Join Date: Feb. 19th, 2001 Posts: 3	thunderbird problem I'm not sure specificlly, but i know the thunderbird and durons, don;t work well with certain video cards, and mess em up, I dunno which ones speciffically thoiugh, sry

18th Feb 2001, 06:56 PM	#3
·s¥n·Jihad Leader of the ·s¥n·dicate Join Date: Nov. 22nd, 2000 Posts: 25	Here are the things I would try in your situation: 1. Defrag your hard drive. This can lead to slight performance improvments. 2. In your virtual memory settings, make sure you have a static swap file, in other words, set your own virtual memory, usually around 150-250MB. 3. In your Advanced Preferences in UT (type preferences at the console), make sure your cache size is around 8-12MB. Check this guide out for some more help as well: http://www.3dspotlight.com/tweaks/ut/index.shtml

19th Feb 2001, 04:32 PM	#5
ZenPirate Living Legend (and moderator) Join Date: Nov. 21st, 2000 Location: New York Posts: 7,468	quick question.Have you updated WinME?Because WinME originally had some swap file problems as well as disk caching issues.Check Microsoft's website,and if you've already done that.. well...nevermind

19th Feb 2001, 08:23 PM	#7
ZenPirate Living Legend (and moderator) Join Date: Nov. 21st, 2000 Location: New York Posts: 7,468	I recall it being there when I did one of the first "Auto-Updates".If you don't see it,you probably already have it.But I'll hunt around and post a link if I find something.

20th Feb 2001, 05:26 AM	#9
<fska>Eliminator Registered User Join Date: Feb. 18th, 2001 Posts: 7	update,. yeah i did the auto update and it didn't show anything important to update, i probably already have it,. athlon's + dunron's with GTSII Pro,. it works fine because my friend has almost the same hardware, without any problems. plus it used to work at the beginning when i just got the PC,.thanksö and cya <fska>Eliminator

20th Feb 2001, 10:10 AM	#10
-[IMD1]-K!llRoy I really dont look like this... Join Date: Feb. 14th, 2001 Location: netherlands Posts: 106	did you change the drivers for your 3D card? If so did you make sure you deinstalled de previous one correctly? Frist you go to system and remove the GTS II pro video adaptor. Then you go to thing where you change your colours and stuff in controll panel (sorry i have a Dutch Windows, dunno what its called in English) and go to advanced. and change the adaptor to standand VGA. REstart and install the new GTS drivers, If you dont install the D3 drivers like this it will conflict with the other ones that were there. If you did this, well i dunno what your problem is.. __________________ When I die, Bury me up side down. So I Can Show the world MY ASS!!

20th Feb 2001, 10:38 AM	#11
<fska>Eliminator Registered User Join Date: Feb. 18th, 2001 Posts: 7	yep, been there, did that yeah i did a clean install on the drivers. that's not it. you know what, everytime i have a problem with something, then it's definetly serious and probably not even bill gates could solve it ! i think it's time to sell my PC.,. cya

20th Feb 2001, 11:19 AM	#12
Crager Ahh...just a player here Join Date: Apr. 30th, 2000 Location: NY Posts: 846	Try this utility http://www.tweakfiles.com/memory/cacheman.html I've been using this for about 6 weeks now and it works great. __________________ Win XP Pro SP1 (DX 9.0b) ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe AMD Athlon xp 2400+(333 fsb), SLK-800U,TT SmartFan 2 1GB PC3200 Ram ATI 9800 Pro (Cat 4.3), Creative Audigy 2 WD800JB - 8 mb cache Lite-On CD/RW 48x12x48x, Lite-On DVD 16x Antec TrueBlue480 http://www.teamimmortal.org/index.php

20th Feb 2001, 01:14 PM	#13
[BUF]Diving_Mullah Masterful Join Date: Feb. 1st, 2000 Location: Underwater, CA, USA Posts: 556	I kind of had the same problem but running in win 98, I went to hard drive under systems and checked the DMA setting, don't know why but the problem went away after that. __________________ Kick Hard and Blow Bubbles! [:]O I am Cyrus, king of the world, great king, legitimate king, king of Babylon, king of Sumer and Akkad, king of the four rims of the earth, son of Cambyses, great king, king of Anšan, grandson of Cyrus, great king, king of Anšan, descendant of Teispes, great king, king of Anšan, of a family which always exercised kingship, whose rule [the gods] Bêl and Nabu love, whom they want as king to please their hearts. This particular tabluture is in United Nations building and the original resides in Brithish Museum, he was also mentioned in the Bible! He was the founder of Archaemenian dynesty and king of today's Iran way back when, which after he became the king, he gave religion rights to all the nations and people under his kingtom, allwed them to chose their own king, let the Jews to return to today's Palastine, and created the greatest and largest kingtom to date. Only if only our leaders could be so wise!!

20th Feb 2001, 01:25 PM	#14
<fska>Eliminator Registered User Join Date: Feb. 18th, 2001 Posts: 7	Cacheman Rulez !!!!!!!!!!! Hey It works again !!!! i installed cacheman, put in on the WinME/3Dgames setting, and it works perfect !! even Quake improved ! thanks Blaze-22 ! you can make a cross in your calender for making a person happy on the 20/02/2001. even better ! it seems to have made the settings permanent, so even when disbling the program i don't have any problems any more! next week I'm getting my new Razor Boomslang 2000, then i'm gonna be UNFRAGABLE !!! case closed, thanks for helping ! <fska>Eliminator Swiss LAN-Party: http://www.unfragable.ch Organizers ClanPage: http://www.fska.net both down at times,. hehe

20th Feb 2001, 01:40 PM	#15
Valk Mom, kitty's being a dildo!! Join Date: Dec. 21st, 2000 Location: Great Lakes State Posts: 374	When I setup my system, I made a partion dedicated for the swap file. This greatly improved my UT performance. I assume it's similar to what the app does.

20th Feb 2001, 02:51 PM	#16
<fska>Eliminator Registered User Join Date: Feb. 18th, 2001 Posts: 7	partition hey that's a pretty good idea, i'll keep that in mind. i forgot to mention that now it takes about 1-2 minutes for UT to start,,. who cares !! my FPS are back to the rootz ! hehe cya

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